EPTOn January 27 2012 18:52 Kreb wrote:
Isnt a bit of common sense and willpower often enough to switch back your daily schedule. I mean, I've screwed up my sleeping schedule in one big go several times because you either go sleep several hours in the afternoon when you really shouldnt, or you stay up way longer than you normally do. So if you can screw them up, shouldnt you be able to correct them too?
Example: Lets say you normally sleep at 23:00 and wake up at 07:00. Lets say you, for whatever reason, being it travel or other stuff, feel tired at 15:00 one day. Wouldnt it make sense to kinda force yourself to stay awake then? Maybe not necessarily all the way from 15->23, since by then you'd almost dead, but maybe force yourself to stay up from 15->20/21. By then you'll still be really tired, and you will probably welcome the extra two/three hour sleep you just gave yourself. So rather than the normal 8h, you sleep 10/11h between 20/21->07:00. And next day you're good to go with your normal life? Its pretty much the same as when you're fucking up your sleeping schedule, but you're doing it backwards and actually correcting it rather than fucking it up even more.
Not saying its that easy, and I dont travel enough to be able justify it through experience, but I've done some lighter versions of that "method" and it seems to work ok for me. Would be awesome to hear OP comment on this since he seems to have a great deal of knowledge about it. =)
Isnt a bit of common sense and willpower often enough to switch back your daily schedule. I mean, I've screwed up my sleeping schedule in one big go several times because you either go sleep several hours in the afternoon when you really shouldnt, or you stay up way longer than you normally do. So if you can screw them up, shouldnt you be able to correct them too?
Example: Lets say you normally sleep at 23:00 and wake up at 07:00. Lets say you, for whatever reason, being it travel or other stuff, feel tired at 15:00 one day. Wouldnt it make sense to kinda force yourself to stay awake then? Maybe not necessarily all the way from 15->23, since by then you'd almost dead, but maybe force yourself to stay up from 15->20/21. By then you'll still be really tired, and you will probably welcome the extra two/three hour sleep you just gave yourself. So rather than the normal 8h, you sleep 10/11h between 20/21->07:00. And next day you're good to go with your normal life? Its pretty much the same as when you're fucking up your sleeping schedule, but you're doing it backwards and actually correcting it rather than fucking it up even more.
Not saying its that easy, and I dont travel enough to be able justify it through experience, but I've done some lighter versions of that "method" and it seems to work ok for me. Would be awesome to hear OP comment on this since he seems to have a great deal of knowledge about it. =)
Yes, in the scenario you give, a long afternoon nap that results in you not being able to get to sleep until quite late is likely to disrupt your sleep cycles. And the primary reason for that is that you will receive a lot of extra light exposure at night, which will delay your circadian rhythms. This means it will be hard to get to bed at the same time on following days.
On January 28 2012 10:48 ArchDC wrote:
What's REALLY fascinating is the UBERMAN SLEEP CYCLE.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
I wish there were more real scientific data around it. Imagine if everyone has an extra 8 hours everyday? Imagine living your 20s or 30s with double the amount of time you have now? If I wasn't in my 30s and a bit risk-averse I would definitely give this a try.
What's REALLY fascinating is the UBERMAN SLEEP CYCLE.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
I wish there were more real scientific data around it. Imagine if everyone has an extra 8 hours everyday? Imagine living your 20s or 30s with double the amount of time you have now? If I wasn't in my 30s and a bit risk-averse I would definitely give this a try.
I would strongly advise against it! The problem with these ultradian sleep patterns is that they run in direct opposition to your natural sleep drives. No matter what sleep schedule you try to live on, your body will produce a very strong drive to sleep every 24-hour hours. If you read the blogs of people who try these schedules, they all develop coping strategies to get through this sleepy phase, such as activities that force them to stay awake. It's a constant battle against your own biology remaining on such a schedule, and it's not possible to get sufficient sleep to maintain normal function. Many ultradian schedules have been tested in the lab; they are not pleasant to maintain.
It would be fantastic if we could somehow sleep less and function just the same, but at least currently, there's no way to do that.
