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kazie
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Endymion
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kazie
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
My bet is if you move to Toronto and start work you will stay the same person and hate yourself for it. Just my 2c EDIT: I'll clarify what I'm saying with two examples; 1) Friend of mine (very good student at HS) was content with his life, but didn't feel that he was going anywhere meaningful. He felt like he was just fitting into the mold and doing what everyone expected of him. So what did he do? For his final year he moved to Wanaka where there was a massive emphasis on the outdoors and whatnot. He took up dance, he took up theatersports and became immersed in the outdoors. After breaking his rut he became a completely different person and x10 happier than if he had stayed. He went on to study geology and will do a teaching course this year then live in England for a while. 2) Another friend of mine (he posts here!) was getting kinda depressed. Yeah, he was doing alright in uni and getting by just fine but he wasn't happy with the direction of his life. His solution? He put his studies on hold and took and extended trip through Europe (and met a few TLers on the way). His experiences through Europe reinvigorated his passion for life and improved his outlook on everything. Afterwards he was way happier and felt that his life was back on course (I dno if he finished his engineering degree though!). | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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StarStruck
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I hoped you learned a valuable lesson. Being lazy and passing things off won't get you very far in life. Yes, too much freedom can be a burden for some. It comes down to taking responsibility for your own actions. You will eventually have to go back to school. I only hope you don't make the same mistakes. On January 12 2012 13:51 Plexa wrote: Seriously, my suggestion would be to get out of the environment you're in and rediscover a passion for life. $2-3k is actually quite a bit up front and should enable you to do things other than move and live out a boring mundane life. It sounds like the computer is your enemy so I would consider travelling to some country (maybe in South America, maybe Europe, hell maybe africa!) and do one of those working holiday things. Yeah its fucking scary, but if you are settled into a routine of sloth a jump start like this might be what you need. My bet is if you move to Toronto and start work you will stay the same person and hate yourself for it. Just my 2c This is actually very good advice and I hope you look into it. Get a working visa and work aboard. Staying in one place could only bring you down more. You could use a change of atmosphere. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
Edit: Ofc resume your studies, but from your post it seemed that it wasn't an option. And going for another 5 year career at this point is retarded, and something most likely ur parents won't pay for. | ||
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
However, that's not to say that all is lost. The first thing that you need to do is seriously assess your position and options. I'm not sure what the local job market is like in Toronto, but here in San Francisco, someone with your lack of qualifications would be essentially non-competitive. How confident are you in your ability to make the minimum wage in Toronto? What's the unemployment rate like, what connections do you have, and what's the cost-of-living situation? As you have a computer with internet access, I'd highly recommend that you do some research focusing on what your chances are. If they aren't acceptable, what about other areas of the country? You're going to have to maximize your expected value and hope. Next, what kind of social benefits and programs are available to you? Workfare, food stamps, conditional cash transfers, unemployment benefits: hopefully you'll be able to use them to stabilize your consumption at or slightly above the poverty line, and I'd be tempted to think that Canada's offerings in this regard are reasonably generous. Finally, look at your expenses and see what discretionary spending you can cut. Your savings will run out faster than you'd think if you don't manage them carefully, and I'm talking on the level of shaving fractions of dollars on every meal. Consider revising or shelving your phone plan, and remember to factor in savings (nothing fancy, but an emergency fund for sudden shocks like hospital fees can prevent you from having to scramble and liquidate assets). Good luck. | ||
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kazie
258 Posts
also what kind of entry level jobs could i be hired for with just a high school diploma? | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On January 12 2012 13:59 kazie wrote: thanks for the advice guys, but working abroad is not really an option, at least until i can get settled in and know i can live on my own. convincing my parents about this is not really an option, since i've tried already. maybe after i've been out on my own i can start over with them. also what kind of entry level jobs could i be hired for with just a high school diploma? you can't use that attitude or you won't get shit for offers, you need to talk about how you were doing really well in school then you had a personal crisis, and you're willing to work for a lot less than the next guy in order to get experience. sell yourself! | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 12 2012 13:59 kazie wrote: thanks for the advice guys, but working abroad is not really an option, at least until i can get settled in and know i can live on my own. convincing my parents about this is not really an option, since i've tried already. maybe after i've been out on my own i can start over with them. also what kind of entry level jobs could i be hired for with just a high school diploma? Explore more options. If you plan it out well then I'm sure your parents would be more open to discussing it. That and I would consider yourself still a student who's taking a year off from school. Don't mention the fact you dropped out. Present yourself in the most positive light as possible. There are still many opportunities for you. | ||
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bRiz
United States113 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
You fucked up, but it's not over. Accept that and you should be fine to move on. Your parents made a bad investment (in you). It's good that they're cutting you off. Once you become a good investment again, they will invest in you again. Here's what I would do: 1. Pretend your parents no longer exist and you have $2k. You obviously wouldn't move to Toronto because the expenses are way higher. 2. From tomorrow, your full time job is finding a full time job. That means 8 hours a day you are meaningfully looking for a job.. You can do labour. I'm fat and short and I've worked in 12 hour night shifts building cars. I've worked 12 hour night shifts lifting boxes. Go get a job. If you have some sort of physical problem preventing you from doing labour, I apologize. If not, suck it up buttercup. 3. Finding a job is 10% research, 80% sweat, 10% luck. Print 100 resumes. Make sure they have no spelling and grammar errors. Go to every supermarket, retail store, tutoring center, garden center, electronics store near you. Walk in, ask to speak to the manager. Speak with confidence. Explain that you're looking for a job, you're extremely dedicated, you'll do any position, but don't come off desperate. 4. Now you're at the crossroads. If you've read this and you're like "well it's pretty hard I'll do some of it" then the plan has failed. You're a bad investment. If you go balls deep and try to recover, proceed to step 5. 5. Make a budget. The majority of this should be saving for school. Assuming you found a $10/hr, $40hr/week job, ~50% of this should be going to savings for school. That'll be $10k, enough for a year of tuition and rent with a part time job. Your budget should include rent to your parents. Don't forget to include include taxes and deductions. $400/week doesn't mean that you get $400/week. 6. Tell your parents you know you fucked up. You're self sustaining, you've found a job. Suggest that they let you stay in their house. Show them your budget, including paying them rent. Show them that you have a plan that gets you back in school (university, trade school, college, I don't give a fuck) in 1 year (winter semester, 2013). Hope it works out for you  | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
1) What interests you? Is there anything you are really truly passionate about? 2) What skills do you have? Is there anything you have a particular gift for or that you can do better than most? 3) What do you want most out of life? I think we should all have a better idea of the big picture that is your life and goals before we give too much direction. That said, a bit of encouragement for my experience. I was very much like you, only my decline was slower and started earlier. I was considered gifted by my teachers early on but stated I didn't have focus, suggesting that I might have Attention Deficit Disorder. I had decent to good grades with no studying at all, barely trying. I filled that time with video games or whatever else I felt like. By the time high school rolled around I had terrible work ethic but managed to get into a decent college. Things were all downhill there until my 2nd or 3rd year where I almost got kicked out of school. That's when it hit me to try hard and I got a lot of 90ish scores my last few years but it wasn't enough to bring up my GPA, like you. I ended up taking very dead end jobs (game tester) that paid crap and only required a high school diploma for 4 years. But I was determined to fix that. I trained myself outside of work by taking free online courses, reading tons, practicing on my own time, doing volunteer work for mod projects, etc. I volunteered for the most challenging and technical work I could get on the job, always striving to take on more even with no raise in pay or title. It took me 4 years of many sleepless nights and being tired 24/7 but it paid off. I'm finally at a job with a title worthy of my college degree and on the road to making what I should have when I graduated 4 years ago. I'm very much behind my peers but you have to start somewhere. If you're half as intelligent as you say you are you should be more than capable. If you can't make something happen it's most likely not because you lacked ability but because you simply didn't try hard enough. You can get back on your feet, you just need to want it bad enough. | ||
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kazie
258 Posts
and so... how would one go about getting a menial job at places like walmart? sorry not much time is left to me. i agreed to move out within a week (my parents talked with me about moving out today). right now i need any type of job (i literally have NO idea how to get ANY kind of job...even part time). after i get settled in maybe i can do some searching around | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 12 2012 14:09 Chill wrote: This is good advice tooPreempetive tl;dr: I wouldn't follow my own advice, it sounds hard. But I've never gotten in this kind of shit. When you're this deep in shit, you can either go balls deep and get out or flounder. If you follow my 6 step program, you'll be fine, the rest is up to you. You fucked up, but it's not over. Accept that and you should be fine to move on. Your parents made a bad investment (in you). It's good that they're cutting you off. Once you become a good investment again, they will invest in you again. Here's what I would do: 1. Pretend your parents no longer exist and you have $2k. You obviously wouldn't move to Toronto because the expenses are way higher. 2. From tomorrow, your full time job is finding a full time job. That means 8 hours a day you are meaningfully looking for a job.. You can do labour. I'm fat and short and I've worked in 12 hour night shifts building cars. I've worked 12 hour night shifts lifting boxes. Go get a job. If you have some sort of physical problem preventing you from doing labour, I apologize. If not, suck it up buttercup. 3. Finding a job is 10% research, 80% sweat, 10% luck. Print 100 resumes. Make sure they have no spelling and grammar errors. Go to every supermarket, retail store, tutoring center, garden center, electronics store near you. Walk in, ask to speak to the manager. Speak with confidence. Explain that you're looking for a job, you're extremely dedicated, you'll do any position, but don't come off desperate. 4. Now you're at the crossroads. If you've read this and you're like "well it's pretty hard I'll do some of it" then the plan has failed. You're a bad investment. If you go balls deep and try to recover, proceed to step 5. 5. Make a budget. The majority of this should be saving for school. Assuming you found a $10/hr, $40hr/week job, ~50% of this should be going to savings for school. That'll be $10k, enough for a year of tuition and rent with a part time job. Your budget should include rent to your parents. Don't forget to include include taxes and deductions. $400/week doesn't mean that you get $400/week. 6. Tell your parents you know you fucked up. You're self sustaining, you've found a job. Suggest that they let you stay in their house. Show them your budget, including paying them rent. Show them that you have a plan that gets you back in school (university, trade school, college, I don't give a fuck) in 1 year (winter semester, 2013). Hope it works out for you | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Still don't have the right mindset. Link me your resume. I'm not doing everything for you. Like Chill said you need to have confidence and not come off as being desperate. You need to sort your shit out. Like he said, find any job first and find a really cheap place. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
even if you weren't in a stupid position like you are now, it's still incredibly rude to call something menial when it's an integral part of society... my parents would have slapped me so hard for saying something so ignorant | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
So, good luck. | ||
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kazie
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On January 12 2012 14:34 kazie wrote: im sorry if i was coming off as being elitist. i was just giving an idea about what i was currently looking for. i got the impression that people were talking about jobs i could work my way up from, and not something like a cashier or clerk that im trying to find right now. i know im an incredible failure. i'll be typing out my resume and go visit everything like chill said. my resume will be barren since i have no qualifications or work experience You've already failed. Good luck. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On January 12 2012 14:34 kazie wrote: im sorry if i was coming off as being elitist. i was just giving an idea about what i was currently looking for. i got the impression that people were talking about jobs i could work my way up from, and not something like a cashier or clerk that im trying to find right now. i know im an incredible failure. i'll be typing out my resume and go visit everything like chill said. my resume will be barren since i have no qualifications or work experience look, the position you're in doesn't warrant you being elitist. it doesn't benefit me, your employer, and most importantly it doesn't benefit you. you're not entitled to a dime of a prestigious job until you earn it, through knowing the right people or through having the right qualifications. evidently you have neither, so gain one of them. working at walmart may not have a lot of room for accession (although you would certainly be surprised), the point is you need the work experience and the money. showing up day in and day out to a shitty job says a lot about you (that you're tenacious and hard working, and that you're willing to get your hands dirty if the situation demands it). for reference, my father is high up in a large oil extraction company, and he says that he would much rather hire a kid with a 3.0 with any work experience over a kid with a 4.0 and zero work experience. being malleable is certainly an asset. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
It is important that you dont come off as desperate if you do end up getting interviews, not that those are any hard for that kind of jobs. Explain that you need a stable revenue for the moment and are planning to accumulate funds to eventually go back to school in the future. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 12 2012 14:34 kazie wrote: im sorry if i was coming off as being elitist. i was just giving an idea about what i was currently looking for. i got the impression that people were talking about jobs i could work my way up from, and not something like a cashier or clerk that im trying to find right now. i know im an incredible failure. i'll be typing out my resume and go visit everything like chill said. my resume will be barren since i have no qualifications or work experience See, your attitude hasn't changed. This is the biggest problem of all and no. A barren resume will land you nothing. You have to spicen it up. Paint yourself in a positive light. What makes you unique and a credible member of their team? You are a university student taking leave to get work experience and earn money for your tuition, capiche? Like others pointed out you have to sell yourself. This takes some creativity. You say you have nothing or any work experience. That won't fly. Make stuff up. You like photography? Have a camera? Well say you've done freelance work for such and such. For the jobs you can get odds are they won't check your references. Make up special interests if you have to and make sure they are out there! Make yourself interesting. That and I know how a resume should look. If you never done one odds are you have no idea what you are doing. Don't worry high school students and a ridiculous amount of university students have no fucking clue how to write and format a proper resume. Lucky for you a few of us here do. | ||
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
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Hypertension
United States802 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
You didn't even try in the shit you sent me. | ||
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Inzek
Chile802 Posts
On January 12 2012 13:51 Plexa wrote: It sounds like the computer is your enemy so I would consider travelling to some country (maybe in South America, maybe Europe, hell maybe africa!) and do one of those working holiday things. yeah, cuz we never seen a computer... right anyway the rest its true, maybe dooing working holidays could work for, you can actually change the enviroment you're in | ||
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
See my motivation in school is that fear of being completely fuked over becuz I was exactly the same as you couple years ago...my resume was completely blank except some volunteer work my mom forced me to do 4 years ago + no work expiernece either so if I ever dropped out of school I would be compeltely fuked. Even worse for me because(I'm repeating this again)the US job market right now SUCKS. edit: But I think ur problem was that you weren't motivated or just didn't care enough and you need to realize this right away becuz if u stay the way u were while in school and dont find soemthing to motivate you RIGHT NOW, once the 2k runs out then you'll really be fuked. I'm scared to analyze what Chill was saying becuz i might be wrong but I think he was trying to get u to change ur attitude complteely 180 becuz of how seroius ur current situation is and if u dont make a change your just going to stay that way. | ||
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kazie
258 Posts
On January 12 2012 14:58 StarStruck wrote: Oh for fuck sake. You didn't even try in the shit you sent me. sorry that was my initial one im trying to spice it up | ||
zOula...
United States898 Posts
There's single moms out there raising a family and working 2 shitty minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet. They aren't failures, they don't get special attention... they manned-the-fuck-up and took responsibility for their lives. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 12 2012 15:07 kazie wrote: sorry that was my initial one im trying to spice it up Not only that the formatting is completely off. There are several free resources out there that have at least half-decent templates for you to follow. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On January 12 2012 14:58 StarStruck wrote: Oh for fuck sake. You didn't even try in the shit you sent me. That's the problem. You can't fake effort. This kid has zero drive. I think being on his own will do him good. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 12 2012 15:10 Chill wrote: That's the problem. You can't fake effort. This kid has zero drive. I think being on his own will do him good. Out of the thousands of resumes I've reviewed that was by far the worst. I'm not just saying that in the heat of the moment either. I can tell the guy is truly shaken, but he really has to man up right now. If he really wants my help (and this is a very rare thing on these forums) he will put a little more effort into it. | ||
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kazie
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
For instance under high school, let's say you were an Honor Role student. Elaborate. It cannot be run of the mill and have everything on there on one page. Heck you even left out a spot for References. Here's a hint: Available under request. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
http://www2.ucsc.edu/careers/handouts/resume/No_Experience_Resume.html Just search "resume no work experience" on Google and you'll get tons of helpful links. You're not the first kid who's had to do this. Get to it, and good luck! | ||
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Batssa
United States154 Posts
Edit: What I really mean is, you need to start grasping at straws -- as negative as the idiom is. Your not-so-close friend's mom has a job at Safeway? Yeah, fucking try it. Any connections. I'm in a job rut as well. I'm coming home to the states after teaching abroad for a year. I have previous work experience, but the job market is quite poor, and I'm going to be attending law school and accumulate a shit ton of debt. I'm not going to sit on my ass for half a year waiting for some ideal job. I'm going to reach out to every person I can, so I can get to work as soon as possible. It feels really shitty to harass people and depend upon others for these things (getting a job to pay rent), but it's quite common and you always get the chance to pay back your moral debt. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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We Are Dormin
25 Posts
As a student attending a relatively prestigious university who understands the tendency to see "menial" jobs in a negative light, I can say from my experience that working these kinds of jobs is nowhere near as bad as you might be inclined to believe. I've spent my past two summer vacations working "menial" jobs as a part-time janitor cleaning up a food court at a shopping mall and as a laborer/machine operator in a plastic injection factory (which ended up being an approximately 60 hour per week commitment). After working these two jobs, I have gained tremendous respect for the people who are more than happy to take these "menial" jobs, just to have the opportunity to support themselves. Additionally, I learned to work with people with entirely different backgrounds than my own. I've never heard of any university offering courses designed to teach these values. TL;DR Don't just look at this job search as a way to support yourself. This is an opportunity to gain priceless experience in working with other people that you can't get from a standard education. You have more to gain than just income in this situation. Best of luck! | ||
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MaliciousMirth
United States96 Posts
im sorry if i was coming off as being elitist. i was just giving an idea about what i was currently looking for. i got the impression that people were talking about jobs i could work my way up from, and not something like a cashier or clerk that im trying to find right now. i know im an incredible failure. i'll be typing out my resume and go visit everything like chill said. my resume will be barren since i have no qualifications or work experience My job is putting other people to work! And you would never get hired if you came to me wanting a job. Your resume is not the important part. You are missing everything that everyone is telling you. Resumes are a dime a dozen and I look at lots of them every week. If a person handed me IN PERSON a resume (even if it had gaps) and talked about how he was going to school and had a personal crisis. Dropped out because of financial reason and wanted to go back to get his life on track, then I would at least schedule him for another interview!!! Do you see what im saying? Another person said it on here earlier you have to sell yourself! Take some initiative for christs sake and walk into a place ANY place and talk to managers. Its gonna scare you and feel weird at first, but by the 10th place youll have a routine down flat. Here I will even give you something to build on. 1) Walk into the closest place doesnt matter if they are hiring or not. Ask to speak to a manager. If one is not available drop your resume wherever you can or fill out an application and move on. If a manger is available say this: Hi my name is **** I saw that you might be hiring and I would love a chance to get my name in the pool. (doesnt matter if they are hiring or not he will tell you if they are) He will then tell you to fill out an app. Or say they arent hiring. 2) Fill out an app. After this HAND IT TO HIM IN PERSON!!!! Thank him for his time and say you can interview again at his earliest convenience. If he isnt interested then move on. 3) Its a numbers game. GO EVERYWHERE AND TALK TO EVERY DAMNED MANAGER IN YOUR TOWN!! Even it its a job that you might consider "menial" use it as a stepping stone to get a better one in the future. Man you sound like you have never had to do anything for yourself in your life. GET OFF THE COMPUTER STARTING NOW!! wake up early and hit the streets. This situation of your will snowball so fast it will make your head spin if you dont get out their and do something about yourself. The information in this thread alone is gold, and if you can turn this into a job in 3 days! | ||
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RedJustice
United States1004 Posts
If you are shy it will be tough, because positive impressions are easily ruined by mumbling, no eye-contact, etc. Whatever job you apply for, you want the person hiring to think you are 1. Smart 2. Friendly/Easy to get along with 3. Confident 4. Responsible The best way to communicate any of that is face to face like MaliciousMirth said. Also don't discount 'menial jobs' and their potential. People who possess the qualities I mentioned above get promoted. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Still lacking in the effort department and this is only the 2nd thing they will see. Coaching him on how to present himself and the actual interview is going to be a totally different story and really it's up to him. -_- | ||
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berkguyyy
United States151 Posts
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kazie
258 Posts
I know that if I present myself well the first time the landlord will be less likely to ask for reference. I've thought about just saying that I got a job as an office clerk in an office nearby. . Would that be a good idea? Would paying in cash be viewed in a negative light? Most of the money is in 100 dollar bills. Should I change it to 20s to pay the landlord? Any tips would be helpful. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Heed my advice and you will be well on your way. Start looking now. If you are outside looking for places you should be popping in everywhere to introduce yourself as a candidate for any openings. Locate the job. No waiting. Both are high priority. | ||
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CryMore
United States497 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
I see A LOT of people whom I work with and talk to in my family business that are in your position and even worse (with kids). You have to stop being lazy, I think that's key, and once you can put in the effort you'll naturally be following Chill's little program guide. A lot of people go through this, if they half-ass it, then they're are going to live miserable lives, but if they work VERY HARD and budget their bank accounts well, there's hope for living a happy life. There's just so many people who have failed in the same way you have OP... it really makes me sad to see a blog about it, at least you're not a single mom. When it comes to the amount of effort you need to put in, you really need to bring your 120% EVERYDAY. Re-do any part of your lifestyle that may hinder you and cause you to under perform. Maybe go to sleep at 9 or 10 PM and wake up early at 5 AM. I hope you can take all this advice to heart and really bust your balls to build yourself up. | ||
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Carson
Canada820 Posts
As for the OP: I went through a uni drop-out myself, mind you for a different reason, and I had no parental support other than housing. I also had to move out and grow up fast. Let me tell you something, enjoy every second of your menial job because it makes you a man if you let it. You have to learn that hard work=money. An education doesn't change that. People with no education who work hard in Canada still have so many opportunities it's sick. As for your housing, get a room to rent, you might end up with cool people, hence more connections. + Show Spoiler + for any who care, I got a "menial" job at a hospital, where they paid for me to finish my education <3 desprate hospital unions | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
1. Work. It doesn't matter what kind of job you do at this moment. You can focus on a more career-oriented job in the future once you enter a university. Right now what you desperately need is DISCIPLINE and a lesson in hard work. The second thing you're trying to do by working is building up your resume and showing universities that you didn't goof around during your break from school. I didn't mention income as one of the priorities because you can live on minimum wage so it doesn't matter what the pay is. Yes, living on minimum wage will suck ass, but realize that it's only temporary and (hopefully) will help serve as a wake-up call. Tips for finding a job: 1. CONNECTIONS - this is the best way to get a job. Hit up anyone and everyone you know for a job hook-up. 2. Find out which jobs are hiring at the moment. Many students work in the retail/restaurant industries or at school. This involves physically and actively looking around for places hiring. 3. Use online resources. I don't know about Canada, but Indeed, Monster, and Craigslist have tons of job openings that require only a high-school education. 4. Walk-in applicants: this is purely a numbers game where you apply everywhere you can think of. It's inefficient as hell, but you don't really have a choice at this point and it's not like you're lacking free time. Walk in to every store and ask for an application and/or apply at various websites. Final words of advice: Smart people are a dime a dozen. I hate to break it to you, but hard work triumphs over brains while the smart people who also work hard are the innovative visionaries. As a kid, everyone around me told me I was smart - a statement backed up by my test results. I scored a perfect score on my SAT Is and IIs except in Chemistry (ironic because I became a Chemistry TA in college). I was able to fly by high school on minimal effort while many other people spent hours on their school work. College became slightly more difficult as competition got more fierce, but I still managed to do pretty well. Now I'm in a prestigious graduate school where being smart is the norm. On top of that, EVERYONE works hard as well. I am now spending at least 6 hours a day on my school work just to keep up with everyone. You do not want to be in a position where you have to work and go to school. Even though many people already do that, you've spent the majority of your life being lazy so the experience will kill you. Work for awhile, get your life in order and after you've truly shaped up, ask your parents for mercy so that you can resume your academic career. | ||
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