EPTBut then again, mob mentality is extremely strong amongst masses of people. When people smell a potential crucifixion they are going to do their damndest to see it carried out.
A Rational Take on the Naniwa Situation - Page 4
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
But then again, mob mentality is extremely strong amongst masses of people. When people smell a potential crucifixion they are going to do their damndest to see it carried out. | ||
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Samahoj
Sweden109 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:55 laguu wrote: Funny thing is, nobody seems to have a problem when idra skips his consolation matches at mlg of course not, he could just give the excuse that he was busy/didn't know and it's all forgotten.. | ||
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m3deman
United States68 Posts
I'm not a Naniwa fan because of his personality (although sometimes it can be very funny imo), I'm a fan because he's an exceptional player. There are a million analogies with professional sports players that we could make that were very similar to this. | ||
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Poonchow
United States56 Posts
BO1s are terrible. | ||
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pseudocalm
Canada98 Posts
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mireath
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On December 13 2011 22:15 Crashburn wrote: [...] Secondly, the ire directed at Naniwa assumes a worker rush is not a valid strategy. No, a worker rush is not a high-percentage strategy, but it is non-zero, which makes it valid nonetheless. If we are to harangue Naniwa for probe-rushing, then what is to stop us from doing the same with other similarly-fateful strategies? [...] Well, that's the problem. This wasn't a worker rush. He took his probes crossmap, and on arrival didn't micro them the slightest. That "strategy" had exactly 0% chance of succeeding. | ||
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:52 Crashburn wrote: FWIW, I have similar discussions with people who are very anti-PED (performance-enhancing drugs). People have a hard time separating their personal morals from the actual rules, often conflating the two. I see a lot of that going on lately. He didn't use any strategy, he threw his probes away, he had no intention of trying to win. He A-moved his workers, took his hands off the keyboard and let them die. Thats not a strat. He didn't micro them at all, he just basically said I want to lose and get this over with. There was no effort on his part whatsoever to win. As for your point as to whether it was against the rules of the tourney, yes I'll give you that. But I'll be willing the bet that his team will have words with him as I'm pretty sure that in his contract there are RULES regarding this kind of behavior | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:56 Newbistic wrote: I think you are right GomTV needs to have physical rules written out if they wish to curb any type of behavior. As it stands, Naniwa hasn't violated anything. If his team Quantic has any beef with Naniwa, I'm sure they'll settle it behind the scenes. But then again, mob mentality is extremely strong amongst masses of people. When people smell a potential crucifixion they are going to do their damndest to see it carried out. If gom would put a ban on specific builds and strategies just because they aren't fun to watch, gsl would be a joke. | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
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Huggerz
Great Britain919 Posts
Something that boggles my mind, is that Korean players who always try to play entertaining games for fans, while playing to win, gain less fans than someone like him | ||
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crowbar
Sweden21 Posts
Some ppl will always hate. | ||
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pulvret
Sweden10 Posts
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dolvlo
United States99 Posts
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bayaka
Canada102 Posts
It seems like the bigger issue here is the fact that this guy is 23(?) and he acts like a fifteen year old kid. I can possibly understand if it was somebody that Naniwa had no history with, but to probe rush somebody you have a competitive relationship and rivalry with is pretty infuriating. Essentially what Naniwa did was take the option to play the game from NesTea. If you think about it, this match isn't going to be remembered as a NesTea victory, it's going to be remembered as Naniwa being immature and throwing the game. That kind of disrespect for your opponent is messed up. He actually just quit, he basically told NesTea that he wasn't worth his time. To hear that Nestea stayed up into the night on his birthday practicing for his match against Naniwa makes it all the more agitating. I'm tired of attention being devoted to such a big man-child. I don't want to hear his excuse, I don't want to watch his games, I don't want to have him constantly be this "controversial" topic, I just want him to either shut up completely and man up, or go away forever. | ||
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
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Crashburn
United States476 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:05 laguu wrote: Can u post this on reddit? So many fools out there who need to read this. Someone linked it there already: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/naykf/a_rational_take_on_the_naniwa_situation_from_espn/ | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:59 Odal wrote: If gom would put a ban on specific builds and strategies just because they aren't fun to watch, gsl would be a joke. Attack-moving with all of your workers and taking your hands off of the keyboard is hardly a strategy. It's deliberately throwing a game. It would be like calling deliberately scoring an own goal in soccer a "strategy". I don't have an opinion on whether or not Gom actually needs rules, but in the event that they DO want to rule out this sort of behavior (i.e. deliberately throwing games), they'll need to have the rules on physical paper. | ||
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dolvlo
United States99 Posts
On December 13 2011 23:06 Newbistic wrote: Attack-moving with all of your workers and taking your hands off of the keyboard is hardly a strategy. It's deliberately throwing a game. It would be like calling deliberately scoring an own goal in soccer a "strategy". I don't have an opinion on whether or not Gom actually needs rules, but in the event that they DO want to rule out this sort of behavior (i.e. deliberately throwing games), they'll need to have the rules on physical paper. It's throwing a game that's meaningless. It's literally the same as throwing a televised practice game. | ||
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Rossi
Australia59 Posts
Well written blog nonetheless :D | ||
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babyToSS
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