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Well I've never had a problem with bunker rushes as they are easily handled with Drones but just now someone did a bunker rush that I have no idea how to beat. He placed the bunker put a Marine up against it and moved his SCVs onto his Marine completely surrounding it. So I thought, Okay? I know how to slipknot from countless Thor SCV allins back before the patch. I mosey all my Drones around his SCV circle jerk and told them to hold postion, But wait Drones don't auto-attack when on Hold so they just sat there doing nothing.
So am I supposed to make my Drones target fire a single SCV while putting Drones onto the building SCVs and making sure not to forget my Lings/Queens/Spines? I mean it sounds a little harsh when all they do is select SCVs click Marine and hold postion(With autorepair on so the 1 SCV I'm hitting will be repaired by 1 if not 2. Sure its doable, But its difficult enough not to lose Drones with Marines on the field but when 2 are taking potshots at your Drones because you have to deal with hold position SCVs you will lose a ton. Unless there happens to be an easier way of dealing with this I'm not seeing?
I only had enough time for 1 pair of Lings before the bunkers were done so Ling slipknot will not work.
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I really had no idea what to do when the slipknot failed as I knew that if I lost to many Drones it would be over anyways and 2 more Marines were marching up and my Drones would've been lambs to the slaughter if I had keep them at that SCV circle jerk.
Now that I think about it, Maybe hitting one SCV and when the others attempted to repair it my Drones would auto-agrro the repairing ones, but still fighting through repairs while being shot by Marines is not an ideal situation.
TL;DR SCV circle jerk pissed me off, What to do?
  
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you know the only true answer here.... it's terran: lose.
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Australia8532 Posts
Lol
I love it when people post this shit in blogs because they know they will get burned posting it anywhere else.
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Blazinghand
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You've got a number of options in this sort of situation.
The three that immediately come to mind are:
1) "Have two drones attack each scv". This requires a lot of clicking and is fairly high effort.
2) Alternatively, you could walk the drones to the south of the bunker, click on a mineral in you natural so they mineral-walk through the scvs, then have them attack. This will let them get at the marine even though he's surrounded by scvs.
3) Man up
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On December 13 2011 07:37 bkrow wrote:
Lol
I love it when people post this shit in blogs because they know they will get burned posting it anywhere else.
right? (:
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I don't remember complaining Blazinghand? I just asked for an answer, but you act as if I made a thread going "whaaa terran imbalanced", yes I said the first answer, well I didn't think about that I will have to try that. But 3 is just rude, I don't see what that had to do with anything.
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Blazinghand
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On December 13 2011 07:50 -Dustin- wrote:
I don't remember complaining Blazinghand? I just asked for an answer, but you act as if I made a thread going "whaaa terran imbalanced", yes I said the first answer, well I didn't think about that I will have to try that. But 3 is just rude, I don't see what that had to do with anything.
I'm sorry if I came across as offensive; my bad. I was just offering "man up" as advice because it is usually the best strat for beating opponents on ladder. For example, when I lose to an in-base proxy 2 gate, I spend some time raging and thinking about what I could have done to not lose, and I usually realize that the answer is that I need to A: make a bunker and B: man up.
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On December 13 2011 07:37 bkrow wrote:
Lol
I love it when people post this shit in blogs because they know they will get burned posting it anywhere else.
If I cared about being 'burned' I wouldn't have posted it at all, and anyways where do you suppose I post this? Starcraft General? Strategy? As I personally didn't see this thread worthy, but figured I'd ask some help on figuring it out, so where else to place it better than MY blog.
As its my place to post what I would like to talk about.
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Blazinghand
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Whoa. Whoa whoa. Let's chill out for a moment guys I think we're trying to help here but some people are being aggressive and maybe we can relax right? -Dustin- I think you really need to take some of these comments in stride and not let them get your goat.
Let me describe what happened here:
Step 1) -Dustin- has goat
+ Show Spoiler +
Step 2) bkrow got his goat.
+ Show Spoiler +
Don't let these sort of comments get your goat man. I've seen your posting before and you're better than that.
Have you tried the mineral-walking trick? I think it's your best bet.
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grab a practice partner and try this a half dozen times. you'll figure it out.
my best guess would be pull 8 drones, box 2 or 3 per scv and focus fire each scv. scvs can't repair and attack at the same time, and one marine's dps shouldn't kill too many drones if you just micro them away and up to the main.
instantly start a spine by the hatch when pool finishes. rally lings past the bunker to intercept streaming marines.
it'll take practice.
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On December 13 2011 07:37 bkrow wrote:
Lol
I love it when people post this shit in blogs because they know they will get burned posting it anywhere else.
Actually he got flamed anyway for making a thread in blogs where he made a detailed and concerted effort to ask for help without bitching about imbalance.
There is something wrong with that picture. Only person in this thread who said anything useful was Blazinghand (who, as usual, is very helpful).
Sorry I cant help you with your specific problem, I was just upset with the quality of responses you got 
I guess bkrow got my goat to
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Blazinghand
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When starting that emergency spine, btw, try to start it out of range of the bunker, but in range of the spine. A spinecrawler has 7 range, whereas a bunkered marine has 6 range.
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Australia8532 Posts
I don't know what his goat has to do with it
But i saw this as a thinly veiled balance whine; i was obviously wrong so i aplogise.
In response to "where should i have posted this" - There is a Simple Questions/Simple Answers thread in the Strategy Forum if you have questions that aren't really threadworthy 
edit: it was my cynicism when i saw a guy named Dustin complaining about Bunker Rushes lol :p
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We have goats. You stole them. Stop stealing our goats.
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On December 13 2011 07:58 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 07:37 bkrow wrote:
Lol
I love it when people post this shit in blogs because they know they will get burned posting it anywhere else. If I cared about being 'burned' I wouldn't have posted it at all, and anyways where do you suppose I post this? Starcraft General? Strategy? As I personally didn't see this thread worthy, but figured I'd ask some help on figuring it out, so where else to place it better than MY blog. As its my place to post what I would like to talk about.
Yeesh, is it just me or am I sensing hardcore insecurity over here?
There's a simple questions simple answers thread for shit like this on the Strategy Forum, a forum of competent players and whatnot OP. Try there, for starters.
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On December 13 2011 08:05 Blazinghand wrote:Whoa. Whoa whoa. Let's chill out for a moment guys I think we're trying to help here but some people are being aggressive and maybe we can relax right? -Dustin- I think you really need to take some of these comments in stride and not let them get your goat. Let me describe what happened here: Step 1) -Dustin- has goat + Show Spoiler +Step 2) bkrow got his goat. + Show Spoiler +Don't let these sort of comments get your goat man. I've seen your posting before and you're better than that. Have you tried the mineral-walking trick? I think it's your best bet.
I really enjoyed your description of what happened, Thank you for making my day.
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On December 13 2011 07:36 vVvHawK wrote:
you know the only true answer here.... it's terran: lose.
You, sir, deserve a ban.
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You click your natural or main mineral patch, bunch up all the drones, then click the third, fourth or gold expansion or any some distance away, and your drones will move there bunched together. When they're under your opponent, you press attack and voila, you break the circle. Only works with workers.
Or you can move your drones so the bunker is between the natural and the drones, then click a mineral patch on the natural, the drones will move towards it, float under the scvs, and at that moment, attack.
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What do you is get TWO drones, and SHIFT-RIGHT CLICK on the SCV.
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On December 13 2011 08:05 Blazinghand wrote:Whoa. Whoa whoa. Let's chill out for a moment guys I think we're trying to help here but some people are being aggressive and maybe we can relax right? -Dustin- I think you really need to take some of these comments in stride and not let them get your goat. Let me describe what happened here: Step 1) -Dustin- has goat + Show Spoiler +Step 2) bkrow got his goat. + Show Spoiler +Don't let these sort of comments get your goat man. I've seen your posting before and you're better than that. Have you tried the mineral-walking trick? I think it's your best bet.
I really appreciated those illustrations. You should definitely keep making them 
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To answer your question: pool first. Or micro better with the steps mentioned above.
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On December 13 2011 07:37 bkrow wrote:
Lol
I love it when people post this shit in blogs because they know they will get burned posting it anywhere else.
At least we can handle it with a bit of fun in the blogs
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On December 13 2011 09:46 Arterial wrote:
What do you is get TWO drones, and SHIFT-RIGHT CLICK on the SCV.
this is gold... i used to click the scvs like a retard until i found out about this
sc2 is really easy
edit: i still click them like a retard but with shift included
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You could attack the bunker. You'd be surprised how much DPS that many Drones do. Not optimal at GM level but effective enough everywhere else. No bunker --> dead Marines and SCVs.
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bkrow's extra limb confuses me :C
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Blazinghand
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That's not an extra limb-- that's just his left arm curling around in front of his torso.
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I read this thread 2 hours ago while watching a replay and cracked up. Also, I got to teach a guy who has spanish as his native language what a goat is ^^. TL continues to surprise me day after goaty day.
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On December 13 2011 09:46 Arterial wrote:
What do you is get TWO drones, and SHIFT-RIGHT CLICK on the SCV.
I know that, That had nothing to do with the question, it had been answered and I wasn't thinking clearly when attempting to figure it out, as I forgot about mineral walking.
But anyways are Siege Tanks considered buildings when they are in siege mode? As I had a Terran siege a couple tanks on my ramp in a base race situation a few days ago and I mineral walked my Drones to my expo to get a surround on them while my Lings distracted the Marines and the Drones couldn't get through, they walked to the edge of the base like they do when Drone-Drilling if you click the wrong mineral patch. Was on Shakuras.
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