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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 21:27:03
December 09 2011 11:41 GMT
#1
I felt like posting a few math problems here, I am not asking for answers as I already solved them. But I thought maybe some others might enjoy these

Mathematical english is really different (IMO) than mathematical norwegian, sorry in advance for any confusion.

1.
Find the vertical and horizontal asymptotes for the graph when
y=(3x + 2) / (x - 4)

Answer
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Horizontal = 3
Vertical = 4


2.
2x^2 + 7x = 4

Answer
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(x = 0.5) or (x = -4)


3.
(Triangle)
AB=4.2
AC=6.4
Angle B is 90 degrees.

Find angle A

Answer
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Angle A = 48.5888 degrees


4. (From my most recent math test, with no digital help)
a^1/2*a^2*(a^1/3)^-2
(divided by)
a^2/3

Answer
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a
--------
a^4/3


5. From hifriend
A fibonacci number n (as given by the recursion A0 = 1, A1 = 1, An+2 = An+1 + An) can be expressed in closed form as
An = (Θ^n - ω^n)/2 where ω = (1-sqrt(5))/2 and Θ = (1+sqrt(5))/2 (that is, Θ^2 = Θ+1 and ω^2 = ω+1.)
Prove that the statement holds for all positive integers n (by induction).

Will maybe add more problems if people enjoy it

(And please, correct me if any answers are wrong)

*Fixed a wrong answer

*
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 09 2011 12:02 GMT
#2
Need to practice these for next year, so will get on to them soon thanks
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
December 09 2011 12:12 GMT
#3
Your answers for #1 and #2 are a bit off! I haven't looked at #3!
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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
December 09 2011 12:22 GMT
#4
On December 09 2011 21:12 Day[9] wrote:
Your answers for #1 and #2 are a bit off! I haven't looked at #3!

A bit off how ? Incorrect numbers ? o.O
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plutonius
Profile Joined October 2010
21 Posts
December 09 2011 12:23 GMT
#5
is the first question y=(3x+2)/(x-4)?
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
December 09 2011 12:25 GMT
#6
On December 09 2011 21:23 plutonius wrote:
is the first question y=(3x+2)/(x-4)?

Yep, it is like this...

3x+2
(divided by)
x-4

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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 12:27:28
December 09 2011 12:25 GMT
#7
3# is not a problem, all you need to do is to apply the law of cosines. Result is a bit off by the way
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cos-1(4.2/6.4) = 48.9855°


edit : if you like maths problems, you should read evanthebouncy!'s blog entries !
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linuxfan
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark55 Posts
December 09 2011 12:28 GMT
#8
On December 09 2011 21:22 achristes wrote:
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On December 09 2011 21:12 Day[9] wrote:
Your answers for #1 and #2 are a bit off! I haven't looked at #3!

A bit off how ? Incorrect numbers ? o.O
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OMFG Day9 replied to my post! Bronze to diamond thanks to you, and my mother thinks you're funny<3
(Please do a daily on how to spin pens pleaaaaase :D)


In #1 take a look at the denominator.. Suffice it to say, strange things happen when the denominator approaches zero..
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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
December 09 2011 12:31 GMT
#9
On December 09 2011 21:25 endy wrote:
3# is not a problem, all you need to do is to apply the law of cosines. Result is a bit off by the way
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cos-1(4.2/6.4) = 48.9855°

Maybe not a problem, but we just finished a chapter about trigonometry and I thought it was cool
I did (after calculating BC)
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4.8^2=6.4^2+4.2^2-2*6.4*4.2*cosA
A=cos-1 (6.4^2+4.2^2-4.8^2/2*6.4*4.2)
A=48.5888


If it's off I blame my calculator! (casio fx-9860GII)
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plutonius
Profile Joined October 2010
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 12:32:24
December 09 2011 12:31 GMT
#10
my answer to the first question
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horizontal is 3
en vertical is 4
Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
December 09 2011 12:36 GMT
#11
For the second question, I'm assuming you are finding the roots or values of x that yield y = 0.
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Applying the quadratic formula:
a = 2
b = 7
c = -4
x = [- b + root(b^2-4ac)]/2a
x = [- b - root(b^2-4ac)]/2a
x = 1/2,-4
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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
December 09 2011 12:37 GMT
#12
Oh, shit, big blunder by me. Editing OP.
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 12:59:07
December 09 2011 12:41 GMT
#13
Unfortunately, all of your answers are incorrect.

1.
y = 3x + 2 / x - 4. I'll assume that you didn't post the function with missing brackets. What's written is y = (3 x) + (2 / x) - 4
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Asymptotes are line that the function creeps closer and closer to but never reaches. To determine a horizontal asymptote, simply look at what the function does as x tends to positive and negative infinity. An easy test is to compute f(100), f(1000), f(10000), etc... and similarly for the negative numbers, to find the value that the function tends to. In this case, the function is ever increasing (for large positive x) or decreasing (large negative x), so there is no horizontal asymptote.

A vertical asymptote can be found by finding a value of x where the function is not defined. In this case, at x = 0, the function is not defined (division by zero in the second term). Fill in small value of x and see if the function goes to infinity to test if it is indeed an asymptote. As you fill in f(0.01), f(0.001), etc.. you'll notice that the function values explode. So the vertical asymptote is x = 0.

Note that there is also an oblique asymptote: y = 3 x.


edit: You edited the first question. Here the updated solution:
1. edited
(3x + 2) / (x - 4)
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For large positive or negative values of x, the constant terms in the numerator and denominator no longer matter much, so the function will tend to 3x / x = 3. Consequently, the horizontal asymptote is y = 3.

The vertical asymptote will most likely lie where the function is undefined: At x = 4. Testing by filling in values very close to x = 4, f(4.001), f(4.0001), etc... we see the function-value blow up as we approach x = 4. So the vertical asymptote is x = 4.


2.
2x^2 + 7x - 4 = 0
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The solutions are given by the "abc" formula:
x = -b / (2 a) + sqrt(b^2 - 4 a c) / (2 a)
If you fill in the relevant values (a = 2, b = 7, c = -4) and work it out, you get that x = 0.5 or x = -4.


3.
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You don't need the cosine law or anything like that. What you need to do is to recognize that you have a triangle with a right angle whose side have a ratio of 1 : sqrt(3) : 2. AC is the hypothenuse (not sure about the spelling of that word in english) and is twice as long as AB. A property of 1 : sqrt(3) : 2 triangles is that the angles are 30, 60 and 90 degrees. In this case, angle A is 60 degrees.

Draw a picture to make it more clear.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 13:26:56
December 09 2011 13:25 GMT
#14
Here's how to find horizontal asymptotes for when you have a polynomial divided by another polynomial:

Look at the biggest exponent in both the numerator and denominator. Then:

1. If the numerator's biggest exponent is larger than the denominator's biggest exponent, then there's no asymptote.

2. If the numerator's biggest exponent is smaller than the denominator's biggest exponent, then there's a horizontal asymptote at zero.

3. If the biggest exponents match, then take the leading coefficients (the coefficients of the x-values that have the highest exponents) and find the numerator's coefficient divided by the denominator's coefficient. There's an asymptote at that number.

(You can literally ignore all other smaller terms when evaluating the horizontal asymptote of a polynomial divided by another polynomial.)

Vertical asymptote of a polynomial divided by another polynomial is wherever you're dividing by zero.

Good luck!
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sigma_x
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 13:45:23
December 09 2011 13:44 GMT
#15
On December 09 2011 20:41 achristes wrote:
Mathematical english is really different (IMO) than mathematical norwegian, sorry in advance for any confusion.


When i did my thesis, I had to learn mathematical french because the area i was working in only had one good elementary textbook and of course it was only in french at the time. One good thing about maths is that there is definitely truth in the cliché that mathematics is a universal language
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
December 09 2011 14:01 GMT
#16
On December 09 2011 22:44 sigma_x wrote:
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On December 09 2011 20:41 achristes wrote:
Mathematical english is really different (IMO) than mathematical norwegian, sorry in advance for any confusion.


When i did my thesis, I had to learn mathematical french because the area i was working in only had one good elementary textbook and of course it was only in french at the time. One good thing about maths is that there is definitely truth in the cliché that mathematics is a universal language

Wow, I would be really mad if I had to learn french for any subject ^^

It's universal enough, but the expressions are a little bit different, for example
ligning = eqaution
andregradsligning = quadratic eqation
potens = power
standardform = scientific notation
pytagorassetningen = pythagorean theoren
etc
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jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
December 09 2011 15:02 GMT
#17
What is this like 9th grade?
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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
December 09 2011 15:35 GMT
#18
On December 10 2011 00:02 jamesr12 wrote:
What is this like 9th grade?

Almost, + 2 years and then you're right. Anything wrong with that ?
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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
December 09 2011 16:06 GMT
#19
How would you even do 4 with digital help unless you have something abusive like a TI-89/NSpire or some overkill stuff like WAlpha/Mathematica/MATLAB....?

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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
December 09 2011 16:28 GMT
#20
On December 10 2011 01:06 ymir233 wrote:
How would you even do 4 with digital help unless you have something abusive like a TI-89/NSpire or some overkill stuff like WAlpha/Mathematica/MATLAB....?


By separating the problems

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a^1/2*a^2*(a^1/3)^-2
----------------------------
a^2/3

(a^1/3)^-2 = a^-2/3


a^1/2*a^2
------------------
a^2/3*a^2/3


a^2/2
--------
a^4/3


It is what I think is the answer. Although i'm not completely sure.

And FFS, did excactly what I did just a few hours ago, posting answers without double checking >.<
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