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Anyone who can read Japanese?

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Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1692 Posts
November 21 2011 21:20 GMT
#1
I bought a Damascus Katana that was made in Japan a few months ago, and have been curious what the Certificate that came with it says. Sadly I can't copy/Paste from a sheet of paper, so it would be great if somebody who can translate Japanese would help me out.

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Much thanks in advance

The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
November 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#2
Most of it is just translating what the English says above it.

I can't read well enough to decently translate it though so I won't really attempt to do that.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
November 21 2011 21:40 GMT
#3
No, it's the category (which is same as English) and then the actual value.

I could get most of it just from the Kanji but I'll leave it to people who speak Japanese.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1692 Posts
November 21 2011 21:54 GMT
#4
On November 22 2011 06:24 Emporio wrote:
Most of it is just translating what the English says above it.

I can't read well enough to decently translate it though so I won't really attempt to do that.


Yea, I figured most of the technical things out (like length, 4500 carbon steel) but was mainly interested in the "Name of Sword" and craftsman.
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
November 21 2011 21:59 GMT
#5
craftsman says "fake/decoy". name of sword 'rising dragon fist of shame'
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
November 21 2011 22:07 GMT
#6
The first thing I read on that was "Length" and then I looked up a bit and saw "Thickness" and briefly thought to myself "Well this is an odd birth certificate"

lol ._.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1685 Posts
November 21 2011 22:09 GMT
#7
The kanji is making my head explode.
kaoxx
Profile Joined May 2011
86 Posts
November 21 2011 22:15 GMT
#8
The name of the sword is "Patterned Steel Green Dragon Sword"

As for the craftsman, that is a Chinese name. I did a quick search on google and found some chinese site that deals with swords, and that particular page mentions how that one of the swords made by that craftsman was put into some museum in China.

The website itself is sketchy as hell though. No physical address.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 22:17:17
November 21 2011 22:15 GMT
#9
Material: 4500 layers damascus steel (the number of layers has to do with how the sword is forged, more is better quality)
Handle: Pearl fishscale cotton cloth
Tsuba material: Steel
Name: Patterned Green Dragon Steel (approx. word by word translation)

The numbers on the right are in degrees.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
November 21 2011 22:20 GMT
#10
FYI I don't read Japanese, most these words are in Chinese Traditional, could be mis-interpreted.
kenkou
Profile Joined September 2010
United States235 Posts
November 21 2011 22:27 GMT
#11
I asked my mom what it said, and we did a bit of google searching. We came to the conclusion that its probably not a Japanese made/sold sword. The kanji that is used in a few of the words aren't used in Japanese. For example, the Japanese kanji for authenticity would be 鑑定証. It seems like its written in Chinese, so we couldn't really read it in Japanese.
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
November 21 2011 23:07 GMT
#12
On November 22 2011 07:27 kenkou wrote:
I asked my mom what it said, and we did a bit of google searching. We came to the conclusion that its probably not a Japanese made/sold sword. The kanji that is used in a few of the words aren't used in Japanese. For example, the Japanese kanji for authenticity would be 鑑定証. It seems like its written in Chinese, so we couldn't really read it in Japanese.


But there's hiragana... That means Japanese does it not?


And sorry. I can only read Hiragana/Katakana. I don't know enough Kanji to be any help :/
I'm an old man now
kenkou
Profile Joined September 2010
United States235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 23:14:07
November 21 2011 23:13 GMT
#13
Yes, there is hiragana included, but the kanji is not Japanese. They might have included some hiragana so it looks like a Japanese product to a non-Japanese speaker. Some of it is readable in Japanese, but a decent amount of the words don't make sense or aren't used in Japanese.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
November 21 2011 23:14 GMT
#14
authenticity afaik can be both
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Neighbor
Profile Joined May 2009
United States119 Posts
November 22 2011 00:09 GMT
#15
On November 22 2011 07:27 kenkou wrote:
I asked my mom what it said, and we did a bit of google searching. We came to the conclusion that its probably not a Japanese made/sold sword. The kanji that is used in a few of the words aren't used in Japanese. For example, the Japanese kanji for authenticity would be 鑑定証. It seems like its written in Chinese, so we couldn't really read it in Japanese.

「鑒」is an alternate way of writing「鑑」which I personally have never seen used before (actually needed to google it to find its meaning). So it actually says 鑑定書(かんていしょ)which is like a letter of appraisal.

But yea, I have a strong suspicion that the person who wrote this was Chinese as there are many discrepancies such as this (like using「劍」instead of「剣」) and the fact that what the blade material/sword name/handle material are isn't written in colloquial Japanese.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
November 22 2011 01:03 GMT
#16
On November 22 2011 08:07 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 07:27 kenkou wrote:
I asked my mom what it said, and we did a bit of google searching. We came to the conclusion that its probably not a Japanese made/sold sword. The kanji that is used in a few of the words aren't used in Japanese. For example, the Japanese kanji for authenticity would be 鑑定証. It seems like its written in Chinese, so we couldn't really read it in Japanese.


But there's hiragana... That means Japanese does it not?


And sorry. I can only read Hiragana/Katakana. I don't know enough Kanji to be any help :/


Most likely poorly translated Japanese from a Chinese source.
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