On November 06 2011 01:02 GogoKodo wrote:
Nice posts as always. I'm most interested in hearing about tri-laning since I stopped following DotA before that became popular. If you come out with a couple laning "sub" articles about the different lane setups you mentioned ( 2-1-2,1-1-2,1-1-3) that would be cool. There is a lot of both basic and advanced information about laning that would be incredibly useful to have laid out in guides like this.

You can totally write a whole guide about tri-laning but essentially it's a lane composed of 1 carry and 2 support (usually stunners) with the idea of dominating the lane so that the carry can farm. Crixalis/Crystal Maiden/Sven/Earthshaker are great supports for a trilane for example.

There can be very different compositions depending on the carry ofcourse but a rule of thumb is that you usually want stunners so you can control the lane. Your carry will most of the time be defensive so it's important that one of your support who doesn't need as much XP creep pull. It takes alot of coordination to have a good trilane but IMO the most important parts are:

Awareness (warding in particular)
Positioning
Communication
Knowing your role (IE a support harassing/denying while the carry farms)

You should check replays/vods if you really want to get into detail about trilanes though.

Sc0re

United Kingdom18 Posts

November 05 2011 16:21 GMT

#127

Thanks for the guide, it will really help if i get in

Bumblebee

3237 Posts

November 05 2011 16:22 GMT

#128

On November 06 2011 01:19 Antoine wrote:
If you triple-stack a camp, then kill all of the creeps from 1 spawn but leave the others alive, will it stack again on the next minute?

It won't stack itself, no. But yes, you can do that. It's just a maximum of 3 spawns inside a camp at one time.

Markwerf

Netherlands3728 Posts

November 05 2011 16:24 GMT

#129

Interesting, I might get into Dota a bit more. Tried some LoL but didn't like that too much

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

November 05 2011 16:25 GMT

#130

Nice guide that explains the basics fairly well, it seems to set up your next guide as a lane guide! I think this is a good foundation for new players and it would lend itself to a followup guide of choosing heroes, starting items, and then basic laning concepts.

I especially like how you stressed double stacking THEN pulling, when I saw a pulling section I immediately hoped you would stress that point. You would not believe the number of times someone pulls with just one stack, causes the lane to get pushed, and then gets all defensive when I ask why they didn't double-stack. So you did good by describing that it is about lane control and keeping the lane in a favorable position

Nois

Germany14 Posts

November 05 2011 16:25 GMT

#131

very nice guide. keep it up bumblebee!

Heyoka

Katowice25012 Posts

November 05 2011 16:27 GMT

#132

Really great guide, nice stuff :D

Bumblebee

3237 Posts

November 05 2011 16:27 GMT

#133

I can tell you that flamewheel is working on the blog about items.

LayZRR

Germany449 Posts

November 05 2011 16:27 GMT

#134

Well thx for the blog. You make me even more crazy about the game every time i read a new blog from you.

teuz

Poland1 Post

November 05 2011 16:27 GMT

#135

How can i get the key? I'd like to get a beta key

mordk

Chile8385 Posts

November 05 2011 16:27 GMT

#136

Very nice guide, this is the best thing for noobs to get in the game. The community can be so aggressive you should go in with some basic knowledge so you don't get flamed too hard.

I used one just like this when I was starting. Very nice! Hope TL can have a nice dota community

mcJ

Denmark322 Posts

November 05 2011 16:28 GMT

#137

"DotA is much like real life" ^^
Nice noob friendly guide))

MuK_x

743 Posts

November 05 2011 16:29 GMT

#138

Runes is most important things in game for Solo players in the mid lane,i mean with one of double damage you can change the destiny of the game with gank.
Basicially Mid lane is most important lane,at the Top and Bottom lane,support heroes so important,if you supporting your teammate well and denying creeps good,your team has a good chance for winning that game.Also ward locations very important in top/bottom lanes.
I hate the night,when my opponent team has Balanar and run away from me T.T

If you are getting ahead in lanes,you have two chance,give thoughest damage your opponent tower and be ready for action,or pull back.If you able to get attack from natural creeps to your new creep wave,this pretty good way for pulling back.

Jungles are paraside for heros like Ench/Chen/Enigma.Also most important for ward places,you better find good ward location for not getting ganking

Roshan,hmm...Very hard if you not winned 5v5 combat,but if you take aegis of the immortal,this give good chance for pushing your enemy.Aegis of the immortal is pretty good with tank heroes.

After getting first tower of the your opponent,you just need to gank,2nd tier towers for mid/late game,when you win a combat,Get a roshan or get your opponnent 2nd tower.

Also i would like to play DotA 2,but no beta keyyyyyyyyy

((((