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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
November 02 2011 02:44 GMT
#161
On November 02 2011 11:26 Jacobine wrote:
I enjoy being a support hero at times, especially Lich. It is quite satisfying to bounce your ulti off the entire team and genocide them as a support hero.


i've gotten a quad kill with VS' wave before. :D granted i was following up an ES ult, it was still awesome.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
November 02 2011 14:35 GMT
#162
On November 02 2011 11:26 Jacobine wrote:
I enjoy being a support hero at times, especially Lich. It is quite satisfying to bounce your ulti off the entire team and genocide them as a support hero.

What I find really awesome as lich is the positional effect your ult has in team fights. Any good team will instantly spread as soon as they see the plague ult causing a unique opportunity to pick off heroes and zone out carries with stuns.

Either that or your ult will do terrible terrible damage
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Cruncharoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States136 Posts
November 02 2011 15:08 GMT
#163
I just got an email from Steam and had to submit some additional PC specs through a Steam Survey. It said additional beta keys would be rolling out in the next few weeks so I'm really crossing my fingers I get one!
traumaplay
Profile Joined October 2011
11 Posts
November 02 2011 15:49 GMT
#164
On November 01 2011 05:41 Primadog wrote:
I never went competitive in DotA one, despite playing it causally for a year, because I was always infactuated with the hero Razer as a concept. I just really like the idea of a zippy hero without a escape mechanism that can be mended as the game develops into any role with the right items.

Have you played Razer yet? Does it feel the same as it was in Dota?


Judging by recent videos, the attack animation looks a hell lot easier to work with 8D
rapidash88
Profile Joined March 2011
United States194 Posts
November 02 2011 17:47 GMT
#165
Thanks so much for this guide, I've been playing Venge on Dota 1, because even as a noob I can support me team
Stroke me a clipper, I'll be back for Christmas
theSAiNT
Profile Joined July 2009
United States726 Posts
November 02 2011 17:53 GMT
#166
Although the role of the support is greatest in the early and mid game, it might still be worth talking about their role as the game gets more drawn out. In particular, there are a bunch of nice support items they can build which really help in team engagements. For auras and aoe there is mekanism, jango, medallion, khadgars, vladimir and veil of discord. For general utility and enemy disable there is necronomicon, forcestaff, orchids, euls and guinsoo.
jszzsj
Profile Joined October 2010
5 Posts
November 02 2011 20:01 GMT
#167
Honestly I feel like 2-3 support heroes alternating on wards is better than one hero getting all of them and being COMPLETELY useless in team fights.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
November 02 2011 20:39 GMT
#168
Congratulations to Darkren and scintilliaSD! I have sent you your keys.. :-)
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 20:57:49
November 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#169
Is Gondar in the beta? Also I wonder if anyone actually ever plays him. He is my favorite hero, and when I was playing a lot of dota back in the day very few used him. At least I hope they give him a cool model in dota 2.
snuppe
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark285 Posts
November 02 2011 21:06 GMT
#170
I disagree in this blog. Yeah you can say that some heroes are supportive, but in DotA as far as high levels goes, there are MANY ways to play a hero. Sand King is not the typical support just to point out an example. But this blog is good for players who wanna get into Dota 2 but as you get further you see that it is not the simple in terms of hero roles.
snup likes dota
Ognam
Profile Joined October 2011
United States798 Posts
November 02 2011 21:19 GMT
#171
On November 03 2011 06:06 snuppe wrote:
I disagree in this blog. Yeah you can say that some heroes are supportive, but in DotA as far as high levels goes, there are MANY ways to play a hero. Sand King is not the typical support just to point out an example. But this blog is good for players who wanna get into Dota 2 but as you get further you see that it is not the simple in terms of hero roles.

This is totally wrong. The higher you get, the less ways there are to play a hero, since people are playing closer and closer to optimal levels. Heroes have roles because that's what they're best at. You can't carry in a competitive game with Sand King, but at lower levels you could. Playing Sand King as anything besides ganking/support would be an automatic loss at higher levels of play.
Keype
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden455 Posts
November 02 2011 21:41 GMT
#172
Oh man this was good writen. I do really appreciate this and I think our community does as well after the comments I have read from this and your earlier blogs ofc.

In soul I am an support too and from an interview with NaVi they said the gameleader is best as a support, and I like to think of myself as a leader and always liking to help other people out and do the "boring" job which I found fun to do. Enigma is definitealy my favorite hero and I am quite good with him but I don't think he is that hard to play, maybe just me who have got a good feeling for it or something. Thanks for the guide though I appreciate all ur blogs and Flamewheels Anti-mage blog was pretty sick too and kick ass long.
Tornado Terran Fighting!
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
November 02 2011 22:16 GMT
#173
Love playing venomancer!

I remember him being the first dota hero I played consistently because he was a hydra :D
Jaedong :D
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
November 03 2011 00:55 GMT
#174
Thanks, bumblebee for making the guide, it is nice for something quick and easy you can take a look a look at of any of the listed heroes and be like, ok this is what I have to do. Are you going to be doing Initiator hero guides, or just focusing on support?
if you can believe you can concieve
snuppe
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark285 Posts
November 03 2011 07:40 GMT
#175
On November 03 2011 06:19 Ognam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 06:06 snuppe wrote:
I disagree in this blog. Yeah you can say that some heroes are supportive, but in DotA as far as high levels goes, there are MANY ways to play a hero. Sand King is not the typical support just to point out an example. But this blog is good for players who wanna get into Dota 2 but as you get further you see that it is not the simple in terms of hero roles.

This is totally wrong. The higher you get, the less ways there are to play a hero, since people are playing closer and closer to optimal levels. Heroes have roles because that's what they're best at. You can't carry in a competitive game with Sand King, but at lower levels you could. Playing Sand King as anything besides ganking/support would be an automatic loss at higher levels of play.


You are misunderstanding the point of what i'm saying. Ofcourse you play the heroes roles in high levels but! as you mention yourself Sand King can be played as ganker/support and for me that is two different things and that is what i don't like with blogs like this. The heroes are sat into categories but some can be played many various ways than others.
snup likes dota
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
November 03 2011 10:11 GMT
#176
On October 31 2011 22:32 MaKfejA wrote:
I think we've all waited more than long enough for Valve to give us the beta. This blog just makes me want it more and more! I also love supporting in this game, it's much more fun than simply healbotting all day. It's a ridiculously complex task, but this guides (and others like it) really help new players IMO.


Yeah I know how you feel. Used to play hon and feel in love with supporting (cuz my fps/ping was so bad, I couldn't carry for shit because of the lag, so I played support.
Ended up getting pretty good at it, and so I now play support when I pub with my friends on Garena Dota. Fav hero is thrall, because he has a pretty high skill cap and has cool as shit spells. He's also pretty item independent, yet can still maximise effectiveness by
So yeah, thats why I like support. Also Phoniex is fun as hell.
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
Horo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 08:28:01
November 04 2011 08:27 GMT
#177
Well written. A follow up to this would be a good rune guide...

I was thinking of writing a blog about what I believe to be the most important rule of thumb.

"Know your role", and support is definitely one of the most important roles, and not as some might think it, the easiest.
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 15:05:19
November 04 2011 12:53 GMT
#178
Crystal Maiden such a amazing hero for supporting all team.TideHunter/Enigma/ES/Dazzle/Ancient Apparition and SK pretty popular in pro scene.Sven is more like tank for me.Lich/Lion/Lina is pretty good,if you want to dominate game in first 10 minutes.Also i feel like you can play every role with Windrunner,pretty sick hero.Not sure about witch doctor,because i never liked this hero.
Enchantress is like Enigma,if you know how to play NC/Support.

Where is Chen? This hero pretty popular to in pro scene for support.


I would like to try Vengeful Spirit,sadly no dota key for me >.<

IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
Flowsick
Profile Joined June 2011
Estonia234 Posts
November 05 2011 20:17 GMT
#179
Another great guide Bumblebee! Thanks!
Kaiko
Profile Joined September 2010
209 Posts
November 05 2011 20:47 GMT
#180
Support has never been my strongest role, actually it's my weakest.

Playing Support is definitely a whole new game. You have to work with little money and sacrifice your own character progression in the game to help the team. A good Support definitely makes or breaks a team (pretty much like any other role, really) by having good presence of mind of knowing when to ward, when to lane, when to TP, and when to roam.
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