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Where's my reaver :(

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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 17:45:28
October 21 2011 17:44 GMT
#1
After seeing the new zerg I was very happy. I didn't believe Blizzard would listen to the community and get back two zerg units, we were begging for. To be fair, it's not real defiler and lurker, but the purpose of those units should be similar. So i thought - hey, if they did it with zerg, why couldn't they do it with toss? If not a classic reaver..then maybe..a FLYING reaver? Air to ground AoE attack? Would be pretty sick, right? And there's no such unit in the game yet..

However, after seeing the new toss units, happiness changed to sadness. Maybe I'm biased because I wanted reaver so much, but I don't find any of toss units nearly as interesting as viper or host. People are freaking out about replicant, but I feel a unit like that is VERY polarized. It's either super powerful what would make it imbalanced, or it's too weak, what would make it useless. Just see mind control in BW, great in theory, shitty in real. And yes, I'm aware that we don't know anything more about that unit than those few words on the poster. I won't talk about those other two units because I have really no idea how will they work, how much will they cost, etc.


edit: Hm, so first reaction from players - replicant can shapeshift into an enemy's unit if it gets into melee-range. So..yea :/

Poll: Would you rather have reaver than colossu+the new units?

Reaver! (66)
 
94%

Colossus+those new units (4)
 
6%

70 total votes

Your vote: Would you rather have reaver than colossu+the new units?

(Vote): Reaver!
(Vote): Colossus+those new units




Well..there's still Legacy of the Void..

Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#2
Reaver + 500000
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 21 2011 17:55 GMT
#3
To be completely honest, i don't like any of these new units. I'd rather have the old units back permanently. Well, too bad.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
poundcakes
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway239 Posts
October 21 2011 17:56 GMT
#4
The prophecy is coming true, WoL = Terran gets powerful, HotS = Zerg gets powerful (although it's too early to make real prediction about gameplay I have this feeling terran will still be the overall best race) and hopefully for LotV we'll get good units.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 21 2011 17:58 GMT
#5
There will be more units?

Oh god. These units are already terrible.
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xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
October 21 2011 18:04 GMT
#6
tempest doesn't seem too shabby. it's kind of like a reaver for air
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
October 21 2011 18:11 GMT
#7
i dont want the reaver cos they need to make this as different from BW as possible. If they just put back in all the old units they're never gonna get the chance to bring new ones in
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 21 2011 18:13 GMT
#8
I think they just need to give toss arbiters and replace the raven with vessel ^^
:)
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
October 21 2011 18:16 GMT
#9
On October 22 2011 03:11 ThatGuy89 wrote:
i dont want the reaver cos they need to make this as different from BW as possible. If they just put back in all the old units they're never gonna get the chance to bring new ones in


You realize that the BEST things about this news is (1) defilers (slightly modified), (2) lurkers (slightly modified), and (3) hydra speed, right? All the things Zerg players wanted back from BW.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 18:21:21
October 21 2011 18:20 GMT
#10
On October 22 2011 03:11 ThatGuy89 wrote:
i dont want the reaver cos they need to make this as different from BW as possible. If they just put back in all the old units they're never gonna get the chance to bring new ones in


why the F do they "need to make this as different from BW as possible"? We then wouldn't have marines, zealots, hydras etc. in the game, would we. Thing is, reaver is objectively 10000000x times better than colossus which everyone - tosses, zergs, terrans - HATES. It would make the game much more interesting than a-moving with colossi and praying they don't have enough vikings or corruptors.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 21 2011 18:32 GMT
#11
For someone who has terrible micro and can only a-move, I appreciate how easy Colossi makes life. But god I miss reavers SO much. The most exciting moments watching any P game was reaver harass/shuttle micro. I honestly don't know if there'll be any other single unit that gives as much suspense as a reaver and it's scarab (except maybe HT and storms). Will it kill 238473 workers or will it be a dud?

Protoss doesn't even feel like Protoss anymore, with 80% of its units removed and replaced by generic 4 legged robots. I miss corsairs and arbiters, dark archons and dragoons (the original quadraped bro). Yes, scout, I miss you too. And just now, my heart almost broke when I saw that they were removing carriers too. ;___;
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
October 21 2011 18:40 GMT
#12
On October 22 2011 03:32 seraphe wrote:
For someone who has terrible micro and can only a-move, I appreciate how easy Colossi makes life. But god I miss reavers SO much. The most exciting moments watching any P game was reaver harass/shuttle micro. I honestly don't know if there'll be any other single unit that gives as much suspense as a reaver and it's scarab (except maybe HT and storms). Will it kill 238473 workers or will it be a dud?





..............


Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
October 21 2011 18:51 GMT
#13
the issue with the reaver is, blizz can't re-introduce such a buggy AI for scarabs. And without such a buggy UI it'd either be completely OP if they didn't nerf it, or they would nerf it and then it wouldn't be that much fun to watch anymore. There's just no way to bring back the "good old reaver"..
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
October 21 2011 18:52 GMT
#14
Reaverrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh well.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10126 Posts
October 21 2011 18:54 GMT
#15
I miss reaver...

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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
October 21 2011 18:57 GMT
#16
Uh, we don't even know what the new protoss units are yet unless I'm mistaken, kinda pointless poll to ask... But I'm a fan of the reaver ^^.
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 21 2011 19:01 GMT
#17
I think that with the new patching in SC2 (clumped up units) the reaver might be pretty devastating. I'm scared.
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
October 21 2011 19:46 GMT
#18
I never played BW (or any other RTS on that matter)...what makes Reavers so unique?
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:03:58
October 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#19
There are a few simple reasons why reavers are cooler than colossus:

Reasons why reavers should be in SC2

Exhibit A: AAAAHREBORBEOREBOREBOREBOREBOREBOERBOREBOERORBEOBROEBORE

"reaver" rolls of the tongue very easily, and is catchy. It is also a bug, and it can't be killed by stupid air units.

Exhibit B: Reavers kill things very quickly, and it's not in a stupid line.

Colossus just walk around all day with their crabby mantis legs and shoot things in a straight line thinking they're all cool and fancy. Then they die to air units.

The reaver, on the other hand, blows up a huge clump of SCV's while laughing at the silly air units.

Exhibit C: How many korean fangirls have screamed in excitement over some awesome colossus warp prism/colossus micro? Not many.

I rest my case.

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In all seriousness I do really would like to have the reaver back ^_^; I've said before why I don't like colossus, and it's pretty obvious
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:03:15
October 21 2011 20:02 GMT
#20
On October 22 2011 04:46 BabyToss! wrote:
I never played BW (or any other RTS on that matter)...what makes Reavers so unique?


It's a very good unit in some ways(incredible 100+ splash damage, range), and shitty in others (slow, so forced to be carried around in shuttles and its attacks can dud).

That's the main excitement from the reaver really. It requires really good micro to use well (difference between 0 and 50 scv kills), and its burst damage is huge so every time you're able to get a good, shot off it does wonders. The tension leading up to that is also exciting because there's a chance it might dud, which means most of their shots are game changing (either in a good way or bad way).
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