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AirbladeOrange
United States2574 Posts
Finland has a completely different approach where students are tested less, have less homework, have more free time, and are still better prepared for entering the workforce upon graduating. Students get more choices with their curriculum as well. I believe there is a lot the U.S. can learn from Finland and I was wondering if anyone knows more about the schools there to talk about it. (Just the trailer)  | ||
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Amanebak
Czech Republic528 Posts
I wouldn't say that our system is totally wrong but there are a lot of things I would change. There are subjects where memorising without thinking is the best way to learn. | ||
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Oozo
Finland432 Posts
Knowing yourself, that without proper education. You will end up in cleaning or similar crappy job. That makes you study harder and learn stuff. I recall my self at 7th grade when our guidance counselor asked "What you want to do when you are old?", and I just shrugged at that moment. Then she just showed me cleaner at halls and said, "that's pretty much what you're going to do if you don't study enough for what you desire". And I got really fast what I wanted to do, and what grades to aim for. Also teachers being quite highly educated helps, does smooth out all the misconceptions and wrong information on our studies. Somewhat our society has changed in past years and its going to bit wrong way in all honesty. 10~ years ago, when someone got bad grade from test, usually parents scolded the kid. Now they call our teachers, and start yelling to them for giving their children bad grade. So it can turn to worse at our ranking to be honest, if this keeps up. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
Here in France, you start working from 8 AM to 5 PM every working day of the week (except Wednesday, which starts at 8 and ends at 1 PM) at the age of 6. There is homework everyday and it's common to have an hour of homework everyday if you're a serious student. But it's always more relaxed than Korea though. Or so I thought... our government cut the public school budgets and now every teacher is under severe depression and stress. | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
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jamssi
Finland36 Posts
On October 04 2011 18:26 AnxiousHippo wrote: Finland just generally seems like a great place to live. Only if you like 7 months of cold and darkness each year. | ||
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Grettin
42400 Posts
On October 04 2011 18:26 AnxiousHippo wrote: Finland just generally seems like a great place to live. Yeah, yet i still want to move out from this country as soon as possible. :p But yes, our education system is wonderful and everyone who are born in Finland (or any country) are lucky to have this kind of system. Sadly, there is still a lot of people who really doesn't care about education at all, or when they do it might be a bit too late. And people who doesn't realize how good this system actually is compared to other countries. I'm one of those who really didn't give a shit about it till i was 'done' with my compulsory education, and now i'm regretting it a little. Even though i have already graduated and planning to continue my studying, i should have paid more attention to all of this. But it's not like i'm gonna be a cleaner or anything like that, but if i would like to study something else now, that might not be possible because of that. So the education system here is pretty 'forgiving' sometimes if you ask me. | ||
micronesia
United States24773 Posts
On October 04 2011 18:03 Jienny wrote: Somewhat our society has changed in past years and its going to bit wrong way in all honesty. 10~ years ago, when someone got bad grade from test, usually parents scolded the kid. Now they call our teachers, and start yelling to them for giving their children bad grade. So it can turn to worse at our ranking to be honest, if this keeps up. Haha that's just like schools in the US. Only difference is it's been happening here for more than 10 years... | ||
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
Edit: some other vid: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8601207.stm | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
On October 04 2011 18:48 jamssi wrote: Where I live you get 12 months of cold a year. Schooling in Australia seems alright, but teachers could use some more money.Only if you like 7 months of cold and darkness each year. | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On October 04 2011 19:09 micronesia wrote: Haha that's just like schools in the US. Only difference is it's been happening here for more than 10 years... I don't understand why you don't have national government-set exams. Letting schools set their own grades sounds unfair and hugely open to abuse, especially for university entrance. In the UK you just get three A grades on the national tests and you get a top 10 university place regardless of anything else you do, extracurricular or otherwise. There's not even more applicants than places for people with those grades. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
It's true that there's pretty much no pressure until you apply to a university and even then if you did well on the matriculation and the entrance exams, you'll get in easily. This system does sort of promote laziness. I pretty much never studied to a single exam and yet I'm in one of the best schools in my country. | ||
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Dulak
Finland33 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
I'd say if we can fix the parents and the teachers then the school problem will go away but honestly I don't know if they can be fixed. Teachers need to be respected not just by the students but also the parents and society in general. Only then can more smart people join their ranks. These days they are more of a nanny/maid rather than educators. | ||
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
On October 04 2011 20:04 Sotamursu wrote: The school system is generally pretty good, but it does have its problems. Also some teachers are just so fucking bad you learn absolutely nothing. The good part is that you can complain about them and get them fired. It's true that there's pretty much no pressure until you apply to a university and even then if you did well on the matriculation and the entrance exams, you'll get in easily. This system does sort of promote laziness. I pretty much never studied to a single exam and yet I'm in one of the best schools in my country. You can complain and get them fired, really? Also about the getting in to unis and other schools easily it all depends a lot on what branch your looking to study in. Your also implying that the system promotes laziness? How exactly because I have to strongly disagree. Your post was quite misleading and subjective imo  Also I would like to know about these "fucking bad teachers", care to elaborate? | ||
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laevat
Finland27 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:04 haduken wrote: We all heard about Finnish schools but can anyone give me a summary on what's different about them? Free Free food all the way till Uni. That's the only thing that I can say for sure that I think is different. I'll let other finns speak more for this matter as I'm not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to comparing our school system to others. I just know that the food costs in most other countries while it is free here. | ||
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
It makes me wonder how our country is ranked in top of the PISA. It's true that we have less pressure though, (but not non-existent) when compared to other countries. Maybe that is the influencing factor, as it allows more time for the brains to rest. | ||
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
Anyway, there was once a thread on a certain poker forum where people were wondering why there are so many high level players in Scandinavian countries compared to their relatively small population. The conclusion that I took from the thread was that since such a big part of the year is dark and cold, people are more inclined to spend their time inside doing "boring" stuff like reading books, studying etc. For example, you can't surf here at all and you can only go to the beach during 2-3 months of the year if the weather is nice. So I guess we have much less attractions to steer ourselves away from the "right path" or something. And you wonder why Finns drink so much? | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
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