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Schooling Questions -- Management/Programming

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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 27 2011 15:04 GMT
#1
I'm considering two major fields to pick a program from, but because of my limited funds and the rate at which I can complete my education, I'm still deciding how to go about this. One question is, if I were to go in to Management, which specific programs should I be looking towards? Concerning Management specifically, are one-year certificate programs valuable assets in any way?

On the other hand, if I were to go in to something software-oriented, what can expect from a year-long program? I ask this latter question as I'll be taking courses part-time while I work, so it'll take longer to complete an entire two-year diploma program, and programs offered in the part-time format from my school are often less thorough, more succinct one-year certificate programs -- as in, many full diploma programs can't be completed part-time.

Obviously, if possible, I'd take one of these one-year certificate programs or relevant part-time courses if I could later apply it/them to completing a diploma program, but I'll make due i fI must accept a more limited program. What should I expect from a one-year program, or be looking to study in such a setting?

It's a hard question to answer, I understand, as there are so many different areas of software engineering and programming, and each school is different. For what it's worth, said school is BCIT, and I'm more interested in web development than anything.

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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 27 2011 16:51 GMT
#2
Management is a fluff degree TBH, you'll get more out of your buck from networking with people for internship/on-the-job training while taking an IT degree, take it from a guy who took Business Administration. Also, a boatload of Management stuff is essentially common sense, you can just choose to pick up your basic Finance/Operations/Marketing books and learn from there without having to attend a single class.
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munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 18:12:26
September 27 2011 18:11 GMT
#3
What's your current level of education? Do you have a university degree already? And what's your current job? Edit: are you planning on working at your current employer after you complete your certificate or diploma?
WickedSkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Netherlands81 Posts
September 27 2011 19:00 GMT
#4
Take it from a guy who is in IT. You will probably get more than more money than most Management graduates (unless they are your boss, ofc). But you will also tend to be given more work to do, cause let's face it, management jobs go easy on you. However, if you like, as you say, web development, it would not matter to you how much you get paid. You would do it for free, money is just a bonus.

However, if you would go into IT ONLY because there is good money there, DON'T. There are other jobs that can be better paid and more enjoyable to you.

So take it from a guy who spends his whole day thinking he is to computers what doctors are to people: just pick the field you like and stick with it.
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CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
September 27 2011 20:35 GMT
#5
IMO pure business degrees are overevaluated. It's much more valuable to immerse yourself into a field and develop a knowledge of it, then learn a little bit about business than it is to just purely learn about how business in general works
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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 28 2011 09:51 GMT
#6
I've gone in to research with a mindset on Management similar to what you all have said, and come out agreeing (with what I've found and been told elsewhere.) Management schooling does seem to be good, but only in a course or two, and included as specific to any program I take.

@Ciryandor -- Business Administration was what I was considering if at all beyond a year; I was most curious about a year-long program. I can see it's not even worth that.

Thanks, fellas'. Not a hard decision after all.
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:52:32
September 28 2011 10:51 GMT
#7
On September 28 2011 18:51 Cedstick wrote:
I've gone in to research with a mindset on Management similar to what you all have said, and come out agreeing (with what I've found and been told elsewhere.) Management schooling does seem to be good, but only in a course or two, and included as specific to any program I take.

@Ciryandor -- Business Administration was what I was considering if at all beyond a year; I was most curious about a year-long program. I can see it's not even worth that.

Thanks, fellas'. Not a hard decision after all.


Management stuff is only worth it in the biggest schools, where you can network like a madman and just look good. Looking at it from a practical perspective, you learn more in your internship about how things run in the field you're looking at than anywhere else.
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