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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 18:43:43
September 24 2011 14:32 GMT
#1
So I'm blogging yet another battle report and for yet another time, it's about BW. This time I'm doing these battle reports because one of them is so damn stupid that I still laugh at it every single time, and the other one, well.. I'd normally lose to that, but for some reason (or no reason, I don't know) I won.

Let me start with the second mentioned game, because I got its screenshots first.

Warning: Spoilers have a fuckton of pictures.

Here, our hero spawns as the red zerg at 5 o'clock main of Fighting Spirit and the enemy spawns as blue zerg at 11 o'clock main.

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While the enemy zerg decides to take the standard clockwise scouting pattern, I decide to take not-so-standard counter clockwise pattern and decide to go supergosu on my opponent and send my overlord to cross position if I don't meet any overlord after 75% of the way or something like that (which means I can meet his second overlord if he is at 1 o'clock and took the same pattern as me).

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Despite I went for 12 hatch, our ling timings were uncharacteristically similar for that early pool from him (he went for some variation of great build).

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But, I scout him and see what he's up to (Yes, evo is actually in the vision of overlord, overlord sees it after going a few more pixels, but I see that a bit later when I look at his base).

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3 hatch +1 attack/carapace ling allin. Generally I see/do +1 attack version but some people may opt for carapace as well. Even worse, by the time I scouted him, he was already at my door.

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Because I have him in vision, I decide to taunt his lings and kill some if I can.

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Taunting his lings work well, i get 2 free lings, which may get significant in case of facing a ling allin. Then, he makes the worst fucking decision he can ever make. He saw my ling count, he could easily understand that I 12 hatch'd, he knows the timings of his 2nd and 3rd hatcheries, he knows his ling count as well, yet he still decides to go for it at the only time that his ling count would be inferior to mine. With this control, it was easy to tell who was ahead after the first big battle:

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After the first engagement, I had 24 lings to his 18. It could not go worse for him. But he decided to attack into me yet again, in the worst fucking position, yet again. He attacked right there and then. With some sloppy control from me, I still was able to come out on top with 11 lings against his 0. And my mutas would come out right after that.

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There, he was preparing a second wave while my first 4 mutalisks were busy killing an overlord.

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His second wave attacked into me, got deflected easily, and I showed some gosu reactions there:

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Women and children first !!!!!


He did one more last ditch attack, failed that one too and left without a gg.

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These guys have stories for their grandchildren


Anyway, thanks for the game mSj[Gad].

Before starting the second game, I'd like to point out the fact that the game is so fucking funny and me and my main man exeexe laughed at this game for half an hour after it finished, watching the replay twice in the process. I thought that he would already do a battle report for this, but then I realized that he got banned T_T.

And here we go:

Our hero zerg Hasheem spawns at 2 o'clock position of Python, and enemy protoss exeexe spawns at 12 o'clock position.

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The rest will come a little bit later, because of imgur's upload limit, but I'm so going to share this battle report. This is so fucking funny that you have to see. And you will see. Don't worry. See ya after the rest of that 1 hour, when I can upload more pictures.

EDIT: 2nd battle report is up now!!!

This time, I choose the pattern that JMave tells in this thread and exeexe chooses a really weird scouting pattern that requires him to go cross positions twice. He went for 6 o'clock first, then 9 o'clock, then 3 o'clock to find me. That probe was so fucking tired when it came to my base.

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I opted for 12 hatch 11 pool 13 hatch 12 gas, exeexe opted for forge first into cannon-gateway-nexus. It was weird too.

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By the time my second overlord realized that he was indeed at 12 o'clock, my drone changed his direction to 6 o'clock to become my 3rd hatchery,

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which has finished at the same time as his nexus.

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I then sent my lings to his natural. One of my lings instadied to his only cannon.

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I never had a ling that took only one shot from a cannon


I then scouted his +1. Later, between being a normal person and sending my second overlord to his main to scout a stargate and being a noob shit and just acting like exeexe is playing sairless +1 zealot timing, I chose the latter. As he had the stargate too.

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Thinking that it's a sairless zealot timing, I opted for lurker first. While I was doing my lurker tech, some of my drones went down to watch the lake view while a corsair was flying over their head.

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As exeexe was going out for the first push, I put down 2 sunkens at each base.

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I easily crushed his first push, while he, this time with more zealots, tried to attack to my natural.

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I didn't have any screenshots from that but it did nothing. After that, we proceeded to take an expansion each, which was not noticed by the other player (he never noticed my 4th and I never noticed his 3rd, I was too busy macroing).

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this made me go like "holy shit my macro is progamer level", which is not


Gifting first 2 armies to me wasn't enough for exeexe as he had another army some more random guys to gift me.

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Only a zealot and a templar survived that lurker field. Chewing exeexe's army chunk by chunk, I decided that he probably has nothing and was going to attack his natural. At the same time, exeexe was too busy storm dropping me. Or was I the busy one as all my drones but 3 died to storms.

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I got ready, set,

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AND GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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While killing his nexus, I moved up his ramp with lurkers while he was making DT only.

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With his corsairs, he was killing my overlords and with his DTs, he was killing my army.

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I did a last ditch with my reinforcements, but it was not enough.

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With this game, I'm like... 0-5 or 0-6 against exeexe if not worse.


Lessons learned today from game 1:

1- In a 3 hatch ling allin ZvZ, never attack with inferior ling count. That's what opponent wants the most.
2- That is such a late +1 timing. +1 should kick in at the same time as spire, not 1.5 minutes later.
3- In 3 hatch +1 ling allin, you should ONLY attack when +1 kicks in, that's when you have superior ling count and upgrade advantage.
4- Never attack into defender with less number of lings unless you have upgrade advantage.
5- Ling control is important.

Lessons learned today from game 2:

1- Use an overlord to scout protoss main and don't leave until you see a stargate.
2- Produce more scourges than 4 and be active with them on all over the map.
3- Get a 5th base much earlier if you kill that many units.
4- Lurker first kicks ass.
5- Use more overlords to scout shuttle play and check minimap more often.
6- Scout for protoss 3rd bases.
7- Half a control group of lings or hydras can stop 3rd bases ice cold if opponent lacks an army.
8- In order not to lose to DTs, you have to handle corsairs better.
9- Learn to seize your situation better (thanks unit).

EDIT 2

Replays:

First game: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=43751

Second game: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=43752

*****
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50106 Posts
September 24 2011 14:40 GMT
#2
cool report and Happy birthday!
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7906 Posts
September 24 2011 14:55 GMT
#3
Nice report
Happy Bday !
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 24 2011 15:36 GMT
#4
It's not his birthday....
I can't wait to see the next battle report ^^
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 24 2011 15:39 GMT
#5
2nd battle report is added.

On September 24 2011 23:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
cool report and Happy birthday!

Thanks

On September 24 2011 23:55 prosatan wrote:
Nice report
Happy Bday !

Thanks man

On September 25 2011 00:36 TehTemplar wrote:
It's not his birthday....
I can't wait to see the next battle report ^^

Actually it still IS my birthday, according to the local time and date (which is 18.40 24th of september). And 2nd report is up.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 24 2011 15:44 GMT
#6
On September 25 2011 00:39 Djagulingu wrote:
2nd battle report is added.

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On September 24 2011 23:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
cool report and Happy birthday!

Thanks

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 23:55 prosatan wrote:
Nice report
Happy Bday !

Thanks man

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 00:36 TehTemplar wrote:
It's not his birthday....
I can't wait to see the next battle report ^^

Actually it still IS my birthday, according to the local time and date (which is 18.40 24th of september). And 2nd report is up.

Oh, the TeamLiquid Time is not the same thing as Europe time. Got it.
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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
September 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#7
Nice report, and I guess it's kinda late to wish you a happy b-day, but best wishes anyway!
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 24 2011 16:11 GMT
#8
wait, how did you lose 2nd game? it looked like you were in a commanding position and you just needed to defend DT and probably make a few more overlords, from what i can see on the minimap when you gg'd you still had 3 mining bases to his 2 mining bases and better production (depending on what you killed with your attack ofc)
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 24 2011 16:18 GMT
#9
On September 25 2011 00:44 TehTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 00:39 Djagulingu wrote:
2nd battle report is added.

On September 24 2011 23:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
cool report and Happy birthday!

Thanks

On September 24 2011 23:55 prosatan wrote:
Nice report
Happy Bday !

Thanks man

On September 25 2011 00:36 TehTemplar wrote:
It's not his birthday....
I can't wait to see the next battle report ^^

Actually it still IS my birthday, according to the local time and date (which is 18.40 24th of september). And 2nd report is up.

Oh, the TeamLiquid Time is not the same thing as Europe time. Got it.

Exactly, korean time messes things up sometimes.

On September 25 2011 00:45 pred470r wrote:
Nice report, and I guess it's kinda late to wish you a happy b-day, but best wishes anyway!

It's never late for that and thanks

On September 25 2011 01:11 unit wrote:
wait, how did you lose 2nd game? it looked like you were in a commanding position and you just needed to defend DT and probably make a few more overlords, from what i can see on the minimap when you gg'd you still had 3 mining bases to his 2 mining bases and better production (depending on what you killed with your attack ofc)

It was just a stupid gg timing. I could just turtle up to my 4 bases, drone up to my main, expand to a 5th, get some focus up and attack later. I actually was in a commanding position at the second look. But I just lost my focus and gg'd.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
September 24 2011 16:20 GMT
#10
why did you leave game 2?
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 24 2011 16:30 GMT
#11
On September 25 2011 01:20 Entertaining wrote:
why did you leave game 2?

See the post above. In short: I was an idiot.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
September 24 2011 17:39 GMT
#12
lurker first -> contain is how it's supposed to go ^_^ plus if you're that far ahead, sunk+spore is pretty nice
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 19:12:55
September 24 2011 18:15 GMT
#13
Awesome report! Replay so we can watch it please?

Also, great comments. "Women and children first!"
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 18:44:09
September 24 2011 18:37 GMT
#14
On September 25 2011 02:39 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
lurker first -> contain is how it's supposed to go ^_^ plus if you're that far ahead, sunk+spore is pretty nice

After losing detection wars, I did not have the luxury of keeping a contain up exeexe's natural, but I could easily win by turtling but I gg'd instead.

On September 25 2011 03:15 3FFA wrote:
Awesome report! Replay so we can watch it please?

Also, great comments. "Woman and children first!"

Thanks for making me realize that I forgot to upload replays. Coming in a second.

EDIT: Done and done.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 25 2011 02:10 GMT
#15
funny games, good battle reports =)
game 2: dts are pretty good lol

5/5 ^^
ace hwaiting!!
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 25 2011 08:08 GMT
#16
On September 25 2011 11:10 soujiro_ wrote:
funny games, good battle reports =)
game 2: dts are pretty good lol

5/5 ^^

I actually laughed for half an hour after opponent left. Failing a 3 hatch ling allin against 2 hatch lair first of mine never happens, especially when I don't delay mutalisks and don't get sunken. And it was the first time I won a ZvZ without attacking.
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