On September 21 2011 04:44 Chill wrote:
SC2 players are generally pretty dismissive of the claim that BW is a lot harder than SC2. But it's true. BW is fucking hard as hell. So I like this Blog. Take these 5 stars.

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GoShox

United States1845 Posts

September 23 2011 00:29 GMT

#102

On September 22 2011 19:08 JollYRoGeR wrote:
"then just overran him with SC2 Masters macro lategame."

That part made me laugh

When u reach a decent level, like C+ u'll also meet ppl who can scout/micro/macro at the same time! I suggest that u practise always having your army out on the map, close to his base while maintaining good macro. U'll improve a lot faster!

I remember when I got to a certain point on ladder where I couldn't just out macro the people I played. Like, I would play a Korean PvP and we would do the same exact build, and I had to learn how to simply improve my gameplay and macro and just outplay him rather than using some random trick or something like that. It was such a good feeling though!

That's what I loved about Brood War. You had to put a lot of time into getting better, but when you play a player that looks to be pretty decent and you just outplay him and prove yourself to be superior, it's such an amazing feeling. In Brood War, winning proved you were more of a man.

In SC2...

Existential

Australia2107 Posts

September 23 2011 04:05 GMT

#103

Haha, good thing that you have now come to realise.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 23 2011 04:10 GMT

#104

this blog makes me want to play BW again. I only played 2 games on ICCUP. Went 1-1. After a single game, I could not do anything for the rest of the day, soooo mentally taxing.

KaluGOSU

United States171 Posts

September 23 2011 05:43 GMT

#105

LOL I think all SC2 players should pick up a copy of BW and see how much harder it is than SC2.

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

September 23 2011 06:11 GMT

#106

On September 21 2011 04:44 2Pacalypse- wrote:

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Yeah dude, that SC2 masters macro sure is scary.

On a more serious note, congrats on exploring the beauty of Brood War land... wish I could go back and be so newbie and experience that great feeling of learning BW all over again. Have fun and enjoy your adventures!

that actually made me laugh the most

But sadly iccup now even at D+ or higher level is filled with players that in its active seasons would be d-.

no really surprise i dont think

Reithan

United States360 Posts

September 23 2011 16:29 GMT

#107

If you got the collector's edition of WOL, you got free SCBW on the flash drive that came with it. I played SCBW back in the day when I was in Junior High/High School (the 90s!).

That was HARD. I peaked out around C-, but spent most of my time playing elevator up and down the D ranks. Still stuck in Plat in SC2.

Air2gear

177 Posts

September 23 2011 16:31 GMT

#108

I've played BW for a while, SC2 feels weird to me, not used to it.

Jonoman92

United States9110 Posts

September 23 2011 17:24 GMT

#109

I can only imagine how insane playing bw is when all you've known in sc2. I imagine many workers sitting idly next to the mineral patches they were rallied to.

Mothra

United States1448 Posts

September 23 2011 17:37 GMT

#110

On September 21 2011 04:53 floor exercise wrote:
BW is the manliest game in the world. Your chest is probably a forest after 5 games on iccup

lol yes. I've never gotten out of D on iccup. BW is so much more fun to watch knowing how hard it is.

HardMacro

Canada361 Posts

September 23 2011 17:37 GMT

#111

I think the only thing that really made BW (zerg especially) super hardcore for me is not having enough hotkeys.

Automining, MBS, etc. are completely unnecessary, but what I disliked about BW and made the game hard for me was that I'd always run out of hotkeys since I played zerg. When I offrace as protoss and to a lesser degree terran, this problem is less pronounced, but as zerg... it was hell having to 5sh6sh7sh8sd9sd, 1a2a3a4a... oh wait there are no more freaking hotkeys, have to manually select

It was honestly a choice between better macro or better unit management. On 1 hand, if I had hatches on hotkeys 5/6 to 0, I'd have random groups of lings dying to pokes since I'm no progamer and can't react fast enough without the units on a hotkey. On the other hand, if I used more hotkeys for unit control groups my macro would inevitably slip.

My own frustration of course makes me respect the S-class zerg players that much more.

dementrio

678 Posts

September 23 2011 17:44 GMT

#112

On September 24 2011 02:24 Jonoman92 wrote:
I can only imagine how insane playing bw is when all you've known in sc2. I imagine many workers sitting idly next to the mineral patches they were rallied to.

The things that drove me insane the most are:
Getting a worker out of the mineral line.
Building stuff. If you just tell a guy to build something, they will find the lamest excuse not to. You need to babysit everything and make sure they'll get to work before doing real stuff.
Getting things moving. Apparently choke points lose 90% of their strategical value if things that pass through it are not disarmingly stupid.
Pullback micro. Units get stuck EVERYWHERE. Move back the weak ones, HA.
Probes are simply OP.

heha

Australia425 Posts

September 23 2011 18:07 GMT

#113

Update: OK, so after that impressive 4-1 (must have been matched against the D---- people >.<), I now have a total impressive record of 6-14 O.o Haha, this is ridiculously hard, I haven't had one game where I've managed to keep low mins XD Sticking to Terran nowadays... BW4LYFE!

P.S. (well not really, once I get back to SC2 access I'll stick to that

I promise to check in on BW every now and again though! And the experience has been extremely beneficial, insofar as I now understand the enormity of the skill difference between the two games >.<)

dementrio

678 Posts

September 23 2011 18:24 GMT

#114

I went from top masters into first time bw, played for almost 2 months now, i don't think I ever had a wr higher than 35% at any point, i was having confidence issues after reading 4-1 :D

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