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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:34:20
September 19 2011 16:59 GMT
#1
So I was sitting in the bathroom and pondering (as all men do), and I had a pretty interesting thought.

What if people could play against an exact replica of themselves? Everything would be an exact copy, both physically and mentally. How the replica would be made, whether through time-travel or cloning, would not be relevant, however. All that matters is that the players are exactly the same.

Now, what kind of interesting situations would arise from this?

Would Flash vs Flash be the greatest series ever? How would Jaedong's JvZ fare if it was instead JvJ? Would Goody vs Goody last until the end of time? And how much BM and ragequitting would happen in an Idra vs Idra series?

Of course, how would YOU fare against yourself?

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TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
September 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#2
I am sure I would win.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#3
Stalemate?
WriterXiao8~~
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
September 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#4
I would love to TvZ / ZvT myself. I really dont know which is better. Would be epic xD
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 19 2011 17:06 GMT
#5
Map Imbalances would be the deciding factor.
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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:10:15
September 19 2011 17:09 GMT
#6
It would only point out the positional imbalances of a map, those would be abused. ^^

This is what IdrA1 vs IdrA2 would sound on the stream of Idra1 getting lucky with positions: "This guy is a fucking retard.," later in the game: "Maybe he is not so bad, he used his scouting info." even later: "He is indeed a moron, he didn't scout my hidden expos." in the end: "apologize for not playing that race for its fullest potential." ragequit from Idra 2.
clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
September 19 2011 17:11 GMT
#7
idra vs idra:
idra1: "this guy is just awful"
idra2: "this is so silly"
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:24:11
September 19 2011 17:12 GMT
#8
for a series against myself we would both rage as we would both hate PvP, however at the same time the PvPs would be interesting as we would both 26nex lololololol

actually on second thought, Random v Random ftw!~
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
September 19 2011 17:14 GMT
#9
I'd never get 4gated again.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#10
Baneling bust ultimate micro if it was me vs me
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
September 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#11
I'd probably make fun of his mom.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:45:41
September 19 2011 17:44 GMT
#12
OpticalShot1 (P) vs. OpticalShot2 (P)

- both opens 1gate core
- both tries real hard to be a Bisu probe then loses the probe to enemy probe before the first goon (sigh)
- both then assume that enemy is going to expand and throws down 2 more gates for 3gate goon all-in
- massive goon fight with lulzy failures due to reliance on goon AI
- goon ice cream in center of map (whichever map it is)
- for some reason OpticalShot1's goons fail less... (I don't know, can anybody explain the goon AI?) and 1 wins.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:06:48
September 19 2011 18:04 GMT
#13
Interesting, I mostly play random (still select races but switch between them) in BW and SC2 so,

BW
PvZ -> 2 hatch muta jaedong ee han timing attack vs Bisu Build 2.0 -> Toss wins because im not jaedong
ZvT -> 2 hatch muta into lunkers or crazy zerg vs 1 rax FE SKTerran -> Zerg wins
TvP -> Flash build vs 3 base arbiter -> Terran wins

SC2
PvZ -> 2 base ling infestor ultra vs Forge FE Phoenix/Templar/Warp Prism -> Toss wins
TvZ -> 2 base reaper/bfh/ghost/marine/tank/medivac/raven/banshee vs 2 base ling infestor ultra -> Terran wins
TvP -> 1 rax fe into mech/ghost vs 3 gate stargate -> Toss wins
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
September 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#14
STEP 1
Blazinghand 1: crappily rush hellions
Blazinghand 2: also crappily rush hellions

STEP 2
Both Blazinghands have no more mineral lines, just a mule and 3 scvs.

STEP 3
Someone makes a banshee first and wins
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#15
Players playing with themselves?


Oh dear god, what some misreading can do to the mind.

Anyway, I dunno what would happen, i'm pretty terrible so it would be kind of like two blind oxen on ice, tripping around like retards exceptional individuals until one of them hit each other. Then one of them would rage.
memes are a dish best served dank
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
September 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#16
Wouldn't it end in a draw?
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 19 2011 18:30 GMT
#17
This would be really interesting if some sort of system were devised (say in starcraft 3, maybe) that could learn your playstyle from a database of replays. It could determine the frequency of the builds you do, how you usually macro, your average response time to events, your APM, what types of micro/harass you do effectively, etc. Then it could design an AI that plays like you. A difficult programming feat I'm sure, but not impossible.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#18
On September 20 2011 02:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
I am sure I would win.


Results would likely be 50/50. If it's an exact copy, they're subject to the same mental fortitude and fatigue that you are.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:45:35
September 19 2011 18:45 GMT
#19
On September 20 2011 03:43 Jugan wrote:
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On September 20 2011 02:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
I am sure I would win.


Results would likely be 50/50. If it's an exact copy, they're subject to the same mental fortitude and fatigue that you are.


He's joking since both you and your exact copy are you. ONE of you has to win, hence the certitude.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 19 2011 18:58 GMT
#20
Personally, I would LOVE to play a TvT against myself, as I love the matchup and how I play it (standard Marine+Tank+Medivac play). Also, a BW TvT against myself would be fun too. I would probably go 1rax gasless expand in SC2 and a 14cc or 1fact expand in BW, then turtle up my siege lines until I get myself into an epic split-map situation.

Of course, random vs random against myself would also be fun, especially if I roll a Terran and Protoss, as my TvP and PvT are horrendous so the games should be interesting.
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