• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:46
CET 23:46
KST 07:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !3Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win2Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO8 - Day 1 - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
How Sleep Deprivation Affect…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1809 users

Players playing themselves?

Blogs > eviltomahawk
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:34:20
September 19 2011 16:59 GMT
#1
So I was sitting in the bathroom and pondering (as all men do), and I had a pretty interesting thought.

What if people could play against an exact replica of themselves? Everything would be an exact copy, both physically and mentally. How the replica would be made, whether through time-travel or cloning, would not be relevant, however. All that matters is that the players are exactly the same.

Now, what kind of interesting situations would arise from this?

Would Flash vs Flash be the greatest series ever? How would Jaedong's JvZ fare if it was instead JvJ? Would Goody vs Goody last until the end of time? And how much BM and ragequitting would happen in an Idra vs Idra series?

Of course, how would YOU fare against yourself?

***
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
September 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#2
I am sure I would win.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#3
Stalemate?
WriterXiao8~~
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
September 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#4
I would love to TvZ / ZvT myself. I really dont know which is better. Would be epic xD
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 19 2011 17:06 GMT
#5
Map Imbalances would be the deciding factor.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:10:15
September 19 2011 17:09 GMT
#6
It would only point out the positional imbalances of a map, those would be abused. ^^

This is what IdrA1 vs IdrA2 would sound on the stream of Idra1 getting lucky with positions: "This guy is a fucking retard.," later in the game: "Maybe he is not so bad, he used his scouting info." even later: "He is indeed a moron, he didn't scout my hidden expos." in the end: "apologize for not playing that race for its fullest potential." ragequit from Idra 2.
clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
September 19 2011 17:11 GMT
#7
idra vs idra:
idra1: "this guy is just awful"
idra2: "this is so silly"
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:24:11
September 19 2011 17:12 GMT
#8
for a series against myself we would both rage as we would both hate PvP, however at the same time the PvPs would be interesting as we would both 26nex lololololol

actually on second thought, Random v Random ftw!~
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
September 19 2011 17:14 GMT
#9
I'd never get 4gated again.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#10
Baneling bust ultimate micro if it was me vs me
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
September 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#11
I'd probably make fun of his mom.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:45:41
September 19 2011 17:44 GMT
#12
OpticalShot1 (P) vs. OpticalShot2 (P)

- both opens 1gate core
- both tries real hard to be a Bisu probe then loses the probe to enemy probe before the first goon (sigh)
- both then assume that enemy is going to expand and throws down 2 more gates for 3gate goon all-in
- massive goon fight with lulzy failures due to reliance on goon AI
- goon ice cream in center of map (whichever map it is)
- for some reason OpticalShot1's goons fail less... (I don't know, can anybody explain the goon AI?) and 1 wins.
[TLMS] REBOOT
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:06:48
September 19 2011 18:04 GMT
#13
Interesting, I mostly play random (still select races but switch between them) in BW and SC2 so,

BW
PvZ -> 2 hatch muta jaedong ee han timing attack vs Bisu Build 2.0 -> Toss wins because im not jaedong
ZvT -> 2 hatch muta into lunkers or crazy zerg vs 1 rax FE SKTerran -> Zerg wins
TvP -> Flash build vs 3 base arbiter -> Terran wins

SC2
PvZ -> 2 base ling infestor ultra vs Forge FE Phoenix/Templar/Warp Prism -> Toss wins
TvZ -> 2 base reaper/bfh/ghost/marine/tank/medivac/raven/banshee vs 2 base ling infestor ultra -> Terran wins
TvP -> 1 rax fe into mech/ghost vs 3 gate stargate -> Toss wins
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
September 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#14
STEP 1
Blazinghand 1: crappily rush hellions
Blazinghand 2: also crappily rush hellions

STEP 2
Both Blazinghands have no more mineral lines, just a mule and 3 scvs.

STEP 3
Someone makes a banshee first and wins
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#15
Players playing with themselves?


Oh dear god, what some misreading can do to the mind.

Anyway, I dunno what would happen, i'm pretty terrible so it would be kind of like two blind oxen on ice, tripping around like retards exceptional individuals until one of them hit each other. Then one of them would rage.
memes are a dish best served dank
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
September 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#16
Wouldn't it end in a draw?
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 19 2011 18:30 GMT
#17
This would be really interesting if some sort of system were devised (say in starcraft 3, maybe) that could learn your playstyle from a database of replays. It could determine the frequency of the builds you do, how you usually macro, your average response time to events, your APM, what types of micro/harass you do effectively, etc. Then it could design an AI that plays like you. A difficult programming feat I'm sure, but not impossible.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#18
On September 20 2011 02:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
I am sure I would win.


Results would likely be 50/50. If it's an exact copy, they're subject to the same mental fortitude and fatigue that you are.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:45:35
September 19 2011 18:45 GMT
#19
On September 20 2011 03:43 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
I am sure I would win.


Results would likely be 50/50. If it's an exact copy, they're subject to the same mental fortitude and fatigue that you are.


He's joking since both you and your exact copy are you. ONE of you has to win, hence the certitude.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 19 2011 18:58 GMT
#20
Personally, I would LOVE to play a TvT against myself, as I love the matchup and how I play it (standard Marine+Tank+Medivac play). Also, a BW TvT against myself would be fun too. I would probably go 1rax gasless expand in SC2 and a 14cc or 1fact expand in BW, then turtle up my siege lines until I get myself into an epic split-map situation.

Of course, random vs random against myself would also be fun, especially if I roll a Terran and Protoss, as my TvP and PvT are horrendous so the games should be interesting.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft230
SteadfastSC 161
NeuroSwarm 116
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 442
Bonyth 82
Mong 12
Dota 2
syndereN1155
Other Games
Grubby6125
FrodaN1438
Liquid`Hasu300
Fuzer 297
taco 178
C9.Mang0152
Mew2King67
Trikslyr42
ZombieGrub34
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV41
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 66
• RyuSc2 56
• musti20045 38
• davetesta11
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21563
• WagamamaTV1169
League of Legends
• Doublelift3095
• TFBlade1067
Other Games
• imaqtpie2632
• Shiphtur254
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
11h 14m
WardiTV 2025
14h 14m
Cure vs Creator
Solar vs TBD
herO vs Spirit
Scarlett vs Gerald
MaNa vs ShoWTimE
Nice vs TBD
WardiTV 2025
1d 12h
OSC
1d 15h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.