• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:36
CEST 21:36
KST 04:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!9Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)75Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Series you have seen recently... Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5689 users

Players playing themselves?

Blogs > eviltomahawk
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:34:20
September 19 2011 16:59 GMT
#1
So I was sitting in the bathroom and pondering (as all men do), and I had a pretty interesting thought.

What if people could play against an exact replica of themselves? Everything would be an exact copy, both physically and mentally. How the replica would be made, whether through time-travel or cloning, would not be relevant, however. All that matters is that the players are exactly the same.

Now, what kind of interesting situations would arise from this?

Would Flash vs Flash be the greatest series ever? How would Jaedong's JvZ fare if it was instead JvJ? Would Goody vs Goody last until the end of time? And how much BM and ragequitting would happen in an Idra vs Idra series?

Of course, how would YOU fare against yourself?

***
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
September 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#2
I am sure I would win.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#3
Stalemate?
WriterXiao8~~
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
September 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#4
I would love to TvZ / ZvT myself. I really dont know which is better. Would be epic xD
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 19 2011 17:06 GMT
#5
Map Imbalances would be the deciding factor.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:10:15
September 19 2011 17:09 GMT
#6
It would only point out the positional imbalances of a map, those would be abused. ^^

This is what IdrA1 vs IdrA2 would sound on the stream of Idra1 getting lucky with positions: "This guy is a fucking retard.," later in the game: "Maybe he is not so bad, he used his scouting info." even later: "He is indeed a moron, he didn't scout my hidden expos." in the end: "apologize for not playing that race for its fullest potential." ragequit from Idra 2.
clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
September 19 2011 17:11 GMT
#7
idra vs idra:
idra1: "this guy is just awful"
idra2: "this is so silly"
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:24:11
September 19 2011 17:12 GMT
#8
for a series against myself we would both rage as we would both hate PvP, however at the same time the PvPs would be interesting as we would both 26nex lololololol

actually on second thought, Random v Random ftw!~
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
September 19 2011 17:14 GMT
#9
I'd never get 4gated again.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#10
Baneling bust ultimate micro if it was me vs me
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
September 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#11
I'd probably make fun of his mom.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:45:41
September 19 2011 17:44 GMT
#12
OpticalShot1 (P) vs. OpticalShot2 (P)

- both opens 1gate core
- both tries real hard to be a Bisu probe then loses the probe to enemy probe before the first goon (sigh)
- both then assume that enemy is going to expand and throws down 2 more gates for 3gate goon all-in
- massive goon fight with lulzy failures due to reliance on goon AI
- goon ice cream in center of map (whichever map it is)
- for some reason OpticalShot1's goons fail less... (I don't know, can anybody explain the goon AI?) and 1 wins.
[TLMS] REBOOT
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:06:48
September 19 2011 18:04 GMT
#13
Interesting, I mostly play random (still select races but switch between them) in BW and SC2 so,

BW
PvZ -> 2 hatch muta jaedong ee han timing attack vs Bisu Build 2.0 -> Toss wins because im not jaedong
ZvT -> 2 hatch muta into lunkers or crazy zerg vs 1 rax FE SKTerran -> Zerg wins
TvP -> Flash build vs 3 base arbiter -> Terran wins

SC2
PvZ -> 2 base ling infestor ultra vs Forge FE Phoenix/Templar/Warp Prism -> Toss wins
TvZ -> 2 base reaper/bfh/ghost/marine/tank/medivac/raven/banshee vs 2 base ling infestor ultra -> Terran wins
TvP -> 1 rax fe into mech/ghost vs 3 gate stargate -> Toss wins
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#14
STEP 1
Blazinghand 1: crappily rush hellions
Blazinghand 2: also crappily rush hellions

STEP 2
Both Blazinghands have no more mineral lines, just a mule and 3 scvs.

STEP 3
Someone makes a banshee first and wins
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#15
Players playing with themselves?


Oh dear god, what some misreading can do to the mind.

Anyway, I dunno what would happen, i'm pretty terrible so it would be kind of like two blind oxen on ice, tripping around like retards exceptional individuals until one of them hit each other. Then one of them would rage.
memes are a dish best served dank
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
September 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#16
Wouldn't it end in a draw?
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 19 2011 18:30 GMT
#17
This would be really interesting if some sort of system were devised (say in starcraft 3, maybe) that could learn your playstyle from a database of replays. It could determine the frequency of the builds you do, how you usually macro, your average response time to events, your APM, what types of micro/harass you do effectively, etc. Then it could design an AI that plays like you. A difficult programming feat I'm sure, but not impossible.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#18
On September 20 2011 02:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
I am sure I would win.


Results would likely be 50/50. If it's an exact copy, they're subject to the same mental fortitude and fatigue that you are.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:45:35
September 19 2011 18:45 GMT
#19
On September 20 2011 03:43 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:02 TiTanIum_ wrote:
I am sure I would win.


Results would likely be 50/50. If it's an exact copy, they're subject to the same mental fortitude and fatigue that you are.


He's joking since both you and your exact copy are you. ONE of you has to win, hence the certitude.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 19 2011 18:58 GMT
#20
Personally, I would LOVE to play a TvT against myself, as I love the matchup and how I play it (standard Marine+Tank+Medivac play). Also, a BW TvT against myself would be fun too. I would probably go 1rax gasless expand in SC2 and a 14cc or 1fact expand in BW, then turtle up my siege lines until I get myself into an epic split-map situation.

Of course, random vs random against myself would also be fun, especially if I roll a Terran and Protoss, as my TvP and PvT are horrendous so the games should be interesting.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 656
mouzHeroMarine 626
IndyStarCraft 196
Railgan 63
KnowMe 46
RushiSC 35
MindelVK 30
CosmosSc2 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3053
Soulkey 151
Dewaltoss 135
ggaemo 129
Dota 2
XaKoH 320
Pyrionflax274
League of Legends
Trikslyr72
Counter-Strike
fl0m3652
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu445
Other Games
Grubby4728
tarik_tv3101
ceh9716
Beastyqt656
B2W.Neo348
JuggernautJason196
ArmadaUGS190
UpATreeSC154
SteadfastSC54
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 7
• Reevou 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade694
Other Games
• imaqtpie1007
• Shiphtur380
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 24m
The PondCast
14h 24m
Kung Fu Cup
15h 24m
OSC
1d 4h
CrankTV Team League
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.