• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:59
CET 21:59
KST 05:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams9Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou23
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" The New Patch Killed Mech! Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BW General Discussion BSL Season 21
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
LMAO (controversial!!)
Peanutsc
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1401 users

Players playing themselves? - Page 2

Blogs > eviltomahawk
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 19 2011 19:18 GMT
#21
It'd be a stalemate all the way around, unless one of you makes a horrible mistake.
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
September 19 2011 19:47 GMT
#22
considering how out of practice I am... I think which ever me doesn't storm his own units would probably come out on top.
LiquidDota Staff
YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
September 19 2011 20:49 GMT
#23
Their behaivor would deviate the moment they are subjected to different experiences so you will never have 100% copy playing itself.
I'm very good at making carriers.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 19 2011 20:51 GMT
#24
On September 20 2011 05:49 YourMom wrote:
Their behaivor would deviate the moment they are subjected to different experiences so you will never have 100% copy playing itself.


That's true. Even if the copy popped into existence during the loading screen, if nothing else the different spawn location would cause the experiences to be different. I'm not sure this would have a substantive impact, but there would be a "randomness" element introduced. Also, given that some maps can have assymetric spawns, that changes things. For example, if you spawn clockwise from your opponent on tal'darim altar, it's much easier to siege up and shoot into his natural mineral line for you than it is for him, etc.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 19 2011 21:16 GMT
#25
Well, I suck bad enough that it would probably be entertaining, since I can't imagine both of me would make identical mistakes at identical times.

Top tier players would be incredibly boring, because even if they tried to mind game each other, they'd just go in circles and never get anywhere, knowing how they thought.
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
September 19 2011 21:28 GMT
#26
This got me wondering, I thought it would be cool to make a custom map that is a 1v1 but exactly symmetrical. You would ask your friend to play on it against you, but he plays against a computer that is programmed to to the exactly same actions as the friend, except in an opposite direction with spatial actions. Epic trolling.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 19 2011 21:32 GMT
#27
I like to metagame my opponents so I'd basically be caught in an infinite meta-meta-meta-meta gaming sequence.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 19 2011 22:18 GMT
#28
Mass nuke basetrade.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
September 19 2011 22:26 GMT
#29
I'd pay a lot to watch a replay of Flash TvTing himself. That would be epic.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 19 2011 22:30 GMT
#30
On September 20 2011 02:11 clayn wrote:
idra vs idra:
idra1: "this guy is just awful"
idra2: "this is so silly"


LOL this cracked me up. lmao I could just imagine that lolol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
September 19 2011 22:39 GMT
#31
On September 20 2011 02:11 clayn wrote:
idra vs idra:
idra1: "this guy is just awful"
idra2: "this is so silly"


hahaha so true
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 22:43:06
September 19 2011 22:42 GMT
#32
was there not a huge thread about this on team liquid earlier? (might have been a different forum.) That thread was about fighting yourself though.

Anyway. Assuming everything was exactly the same (e.g a perfect replica, in a perfectly similar room, on a perfectly mirrored map, under perfectly mirrored conditions, and absolutely no difference from each other in any way.) Then the actions would be perfectly mirrored, and it would end in a perfectly equal draw. probably with the last 2 units killing eachother at the same time.
Wat
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
September 19 2011 23:05 GMT
#33
It would be the worst ZvZ ever, because neither player would have any baneling or infestor control whatsoever, and it would all come down to massive roach armies beating on each other endlessly until somebody gave up.
v1dom
Profile Joined August 2010
159 Posts
September 20 2011 04:34 GMT
#34
To the people thinking it would be a draw: utter nonsense. Even if you made literally identical decisions, things like position would come into play. Whether it was luck (a well placed baneling, or a stalker that gets into position 2 seconds on one side while the other gets stuck behind a zealot), map asymmetry (at a high level at least, starting position can change your decisions even in a mirror match), or something else, I can assure you that while it would be interesting and close games much of the time, the idea that you would end up in a true draw any more than normal is ridiculous.
elevengaming / 4Kings - retired
FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
September 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#35
On September 20 2011 07:42 Earll wrote:
was there not a huge thread about this on team liquid earlier? (might have been a different forum.) That thread was about fighting yourself though.

Anyway. Assuming everything was exactly the same (e.g a perfect replica, in a perfectly similar room, on a perfectly mirrored map, under perfectly mirrored conditions, and absolutely no difference from each other in any way.) Then the actions would be perfectly mirrored, and it would end in a perfectly equal draw. probably with the last 2 units killing eachother at the same time.


Have you played nexus wars? Zealot vs Zealot, one will always survive . It has to do with which one attacks first, which is build into the game so it would never truely be perfectly mirrored

For the sake of this thread i'll say it's possible and my ZvZ game would be epic ^^ roach ling early game into mass roach infestor and then on to the hive tech. Who ever has the better possitioning wins
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
September 20 2011 12:09 GMT
#36
12nex vs 12nex into split map and arbiter/DA. Would be pretty epic.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
September 20 2011 18:29 GMT
#37
I would definitely lose because I would feel bad about wooping my ass so hard in a match and let me have the win. That way I don't feel bad about woopin dat ass and I am also happy because I got a free win. GG me no re!
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
September 20 2011 21:02 GMT
#38

On September 20 2011 02:11 clayn wrote:
idra vs idra:
idra1: "this guy is just awful"
idra2: "this is so silly"


you forgot the part where he gg's/leaves the game!
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
September 20 2011 21:07 GMT
#39
it'd be really frustrating
Graphicscolosi suck
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
September 20 2011 21:25 GMT
#40
If I played myself, I'd not fret... would know I'd be safe vs any all-in/cheese (4gates, cannon rushes), because I never do any, thus my own 'twin' wouldn't either. Would win vs myself most-likely =D
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 97
Railgan 56
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14675
Bonyth 105
sas.Sziky 58
NaDa 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever255
capcasts140
Counter-Strike
Foxcn59
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0331
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu384
Other Games
Grubby2633
FrodaN994
fl0m864
ceh9408
Skadoodle182
Hui .128
ArmadaUGS92
Trikslyr37
ViBE21
Moletrap4
Models3
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 33
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21136
League of Legends
• Doublelift1539
Other Games
• imaqtpie1155
• Scarra563
• Shiphtur175
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
4h 1m
Replay Cast
13h 1m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
OSC
15h 1m
CrankTV Team League
16h 1m
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Liquid
BASILISK vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 12h
CrankTV Team League
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
3 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.