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You have some very fun and creative ideas and you can hear that you put some thought and passion into your work. Mixing isnt quite there yet, but dont give up. That is a matter of experience. Check this video out (if you want), i found it today and found it highly motivating.
http://www.wimp.com/iraglass/
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On August 14 2011 08:11 Starparty wrote:You have some very fun and creative ideas and you can hear that you put some thought and passion into your work. Mixing isnt quite there yet, but dont give up. That is a matter of experience. Check this video out (if you want), i found it today and found it highly motivating. http://www.wimp.com/iraglass/
Thanks! Please be more specific on what you find lacking in the mixing though. I really will take your advice into consideration!
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Technically its pretty bass heavy, but not in the "fat" sense. This is usually a result from mixing on standard(ish) home equipment, because they dont give you the proper low frequencies when you produce. If this is the case and youre looking for some reasonably priced headphones, or what not, for producing, i strongly reccomend the Senheizer HD 380 pro im using. Pretty honest sound in those and the price should be somewhere around 150$.
You also have some clipping distortion going with some of the wobbles - i noted it in the third track, the house one.
Problem is that simply removing the clips will remove some of the essense in the song so mabye it is best to leave it the way it was originally created and simply keep it in mind until next time.
Personally i nowdays make sure to keep every part of a mix clean the entire way through, because going back and changing stuff when youre done will just create a domino effect with your sounds and the track will eventually just turn out to something else.
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On August 14 2011 09:11 Starparty wrote:
Technically its pretty bass heavy, but not in the "fat" sense. This is usually a result from mixing on standard(ish) home equipment, because they dont give you the proper low frequencies when you produce. If this is the case and youre looking for some reasonably priced headphones, or what not, for producing, i strongly reccomend the Senheizer HD 380 pro im using. Pretty honest sound in those and the price should be somewhere around 150$.
You also have some clipping distortion going with some of the wobbles - i noted it in the third track, the house one.
Problem is that simply removing the clips will remove some of the essense in the song so mabye it is best to leave it the way it was originally created and simply keep it in mind until next time.
Personally i nowdays make sure to keep every part of a mix clean the entire way through, because going back and changing stuff when youre done will just create a domino effect with your sounds and the track will eventually just turn out to something else.
First of all, thanks for listening so closely since it's obvious you did. The one screechy wobble in the house song is supposed to clip for that really obnoxious sound, but nothing else is so I assume it's a little more of an endemic problem.
Do you have any suggestions for making them "fatter?" Other than better speakers. I have standard but nice home equipment, and of course when I have money I'll get better ones. Other than a sine wave bass underneath everything, I also send all the wobble tracks to to separate returns, one with sub compression (cut off around 100hz) and the other to New York compression, with a big notch taken out of the mid range. I don't really put much EQ on the wobbles themselves. The kick is just two layered kicks - my own creation and a 707 with a boost to the low end.
Edit: Any EQing I do is mostly done by sight looking at a spectrum. Obviously it would be better to have truer monitors and do it by both sound and sight.
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Side chaining compressors is one of my favourite tools for separating sounds in a mix. It can be turned on heavy as an effect, or just slightly to make some sounds duck away and make space for others. Classic is to duck the base to the kick to avoid mashing them on top of each other.
To make a sound get that screamy distortion effect to it without actually distorting it, try putting an osc or two of white noise on top of a sound, panning it out to the sides. Using distortion like its done here is ofcourse viable, thats why the plugs are there, but it might need to be a bit more controlled by equalizers or it will just run rampage on its own.
And about the spectrum, it does have its uses, but in the end - what sounds good is good. there is no technical code that decides that something is well done. Best thing you can do is listen to and analyze other music of your genre and reference listen with your own work.
Edit: Dont get me wrong here though. I think your tracks are great and i dont think you should change them at all cause it will not be the same thing if you start messing around in them. Im just making suggestions to possibly keep in mind when you make another song in the future.
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The sub is side chained to the kick, the wobbles/basses are not. I agree these aren't "commercial" level, but it's as good as I could get them and close enough for the common listener that hopefully most complaints will be with the song, not the mixing. So either way they won't change since I'm poor and in university 
If I ever start making decent money DJing, it will all go to making sure my next batch of songs sound perfect as well as equipment etc.
I appreciate the advice too. I'll check out your music but for now need to get ready for the night. Cheers.
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You dont have to listen to my music if you dont want to 
And keep doing your thing man. Commercial viability is not something to strive for. Keep being creative and eventually you will fell a natural need to expand your knowledge. I have a couple of friends who keep linking me their latest tracks asking me if it is "produced good enough". Who cares, the first lesson i got from having a track released is that the production level doesnt matter the slightest if the track itself isnt creative and original - cause no one is gonna buy it if it doesnt stand out.
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I still haven't listened to your songs but I haven't been home, I do want to though. If I don't listen to up and comers, how can I expect anyone to listen to me?
And I would agree that a track should be creative and original. That's most important. But sound quality is important since it has to be "spinnable" and can't sound cheap. The production on these songs satisfies me, and although Skrillex's songs sound better, that's to be expected. And you're right sound quality is subjective, even if you listen to different songs within a genre from the same artist across different times, the mixing and mastering sound soooo different.
I'm happy with my songs but always appreciate feedback
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