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You don't live next door to Alexandre Burrows do you?
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Wow, this is really weird. Did the turtle respond to the bite at all? You said that he was "chilling", but does that mean like he didn't act as though he was bitten at all?
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12 turtles in the same pond? If that one is aged, no surprise if it got hit by the red-ears while it swam.
or perhaps the shell collided with the rock so conveniently etched into the picture?
pond specs? lololol
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Well a shark bite wouldn't look like that for one xD.
A joke of course. I mean it just looks like it got snapped but...I have no clue how that could happen. Turtle shells being so hard as well. So uh..good look finding out whats up.
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Gang initiation, 2 red eared turtles held him down and a yellow belly did work on him.
lol, in all seriousness I have no idea. Turtles are bad ass though. You might have a problem on your hands by the looks of it haha.
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Are you sure it's a bite? Maybe it's a wound from something else, like a person throwing a rock into the pond.
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Perhaps racoons?
I knew someone with an outdoor pond with fish and racoons regularly raided the pond
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On July 13 2011 07:54 Gnial wrote:
You don't live next door to Alexandre Burrows do you?
Who? Sorry, don't get the reference.
On July 13 2011 07:55 Aeres wrote:
Wow, this is really weird. Did the turtle respond to the bite at all? You said that he was "chilling", but does that mean like he didn't act as though he was bitten at all?
He acts like it's not even there at all. Only noticed it because it's so big.
On July 13 2011 07:55 Taekwon wrote:
12 turtles in the same pond? If that one is aged, no surprise if it got hit by the red-ears while it swam.
or perhaps the shell collided with the rock so conveniently etched into the picture?
pond specs? lololol
The pond is a size of a juccizi. It's fairly small, maybe 8ftx5ft, but the only problems in the past has been from a snapping turtle we had which bit and killed a juvenile(we got rid of him) and other juveniles which had there tails nipped, I assume by the bigger guys. It's actually big enough that the turtles mate and lay eggs. We've actually gotten babies which is why we have a dozen now when we started with 5 or 6.
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well does it look like the product of a bite or a jigsaw?^^
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On July 13 2011 07:57 Sotamursu wrote:
Are you sure it's a bite? Maybe it's a wound from something else, like a person throwing a rock into the pond.
I doubt that was caused by a rock or something being thrown in the pond. These guys jump in the water as soon as anyone walks up even if they've been in there thier whole life. It seems like a bite or some kind of purposful abuse.
On July 13 2011 08:01 JerKy wrote:
Perhaps racoons?
I knew someone with an outdoor pond with fish and racoons regularly raided the pond
There's been raccoon attacks before(one or two) and they didn't make holes like this.
warning: graphic
+ Show Spoiler +Seriously, do you want to know how a raccoon kills a turtle? + Show Spoiler +They eat out both ends and leave the shell. It wasn't a pretty sight.
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What part of the country do you live in?
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On July 13 2011 08:12 Hyren wrote:
What part of the country do you live in?
I live in southwestern Florida.
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On July 13 2011 08:13 Myles wrote:I live in southwestern Florida.
florida
that means alligators.
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It doesn't really matter if they jump in the water. If it's a big rock like the one in the picture it'll still hit with a lot of force. If all animals are ruled out, I'd bet on something like that. As for purposeful abuse, I don't think anyone would cut a small part of a turtles shell and then just leave it alone. Animal abusers tend to be more brutal.
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On July 13 2011 07:54 Gnial wrote:
You don't live next door to Alexandre Burrows do you?
Hah, you stick your finger into my mouth, or a turtle for that matter, and I may just bite down on it too.
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On July 13 2011 08:37 King K. Rool wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 08:13 Myles wrote:On July 13 2011 08:12 Hyren wrote:
What part of the country do you live in?
I live in southwestern Florida. florida that means alligators.
Definetly. I hear gator calls from my house regularly. We also have a recent problem of Burmese pythons in the Everglades which can get big enough to eat a gator.
On July 13 2011 08:40 Sotamursu wrote:
It doesn't really matter if they jump in the water. If it's a big rock like the one in the picture it'll still hit with a lot of force. If all animals are ruled out, I'd bet on something like that. As for purposeful abuse, I don't think anyone would cut a small part of a turtles shell and then just leave it alone. Animal abusers tend to be more brutal.
Yea, I guess it's possible. And we do have the same rocks around the edge of the pond, but I don't think one fell in. It just seems unlikely that such a clean break would have happened.
On July 13 2011 08:46 minus_human wrote:
Dog?
I doubt it. They ussually leave puncture wounds. It's happened before a few times. Ussually when we find a new stray that needs a home(5 total, 2 are actual strays, 2 others are adopted, and the other was kinda left in our lap). The house is a pretty much a zoo but with less staff and little training.
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Maybe you took a bite out of it in your sleep?
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Looks more like a human bite than a shark bite.
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Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while.
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On July 13 2011 09:17 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while.
They don't molt. That's crustaceans and insects. Their scales on their back do flake away every year or two as they grow, but they never have a soft shell(except when very young), which is what I think you're getting at.
edit: Actually I guess it's still considered molting, but it's not all at once like snakes and doesn't produce a soft shell like insects/crustaceans.
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On July 13 2011 09:25 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 09:17 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while. They don't molt. That's crustaceans and insects. Their scales on their back do flake away every year or two as they grow, but they never have a soft shell(except when very young), which is what I think you're getting at.
Maybe a small gator got in it? Its a legitimate possibility, I saw a gator in a retention pond there once.
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On July 13 2011 09:25 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 09:17 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while. They don't molt. That's crustaceans and insects. Their scales on their back do flake away every year or two as they grow, but they never have a soft shell(except when very young), which is what I think you're getting at. edit: Actually I guess it's still considered molting, but it's not all at once like snakes and doesn't produce a soft shell like insects/crustaceans.
They do molt. As far as I know, turtles start dropping their feathers whenever they run out of shell replacements.
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dude... I don't wanna scare you, but maybe it was aliens!
RAWR!
Lol lets hope not.
Hope u find out what happened. Hopefully it wasn't something from the Horror Discussion Thread
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that´s some dmg, how fast was he going? ;p
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hmmmm they look suspiciously similar to wounds one of my parents tortoises received a couple of years ago. a neighbours dog ( a husky mind you) came over the fence somehow and started worrying the tortoise a little in his mouth( in all likelyhood he was probably just playing around wíth her ). nevertheless his teeth left their mark on the poor little fella and hes not as pretty as he used to be. im sure the tortoise just shrugged it off but as u can see these little bitemarks look kinda similar to the one you showed us. now i can imagine a turtles shell being a little softer no? due to lots of exposure to water. to me it really seems like a dog got in and just got a little too curious and started having his way with your turtle. dont think turtles are too tasty for dogs and i think they quickly lose interest after discovering the hardy shell.
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*edit* come to think of it i dont see any other marks on your turtles shell except for the huge gouge. hmmmm on my parents shell you can still see smaller marks where the shell has been somewhat chipped away (the whitish spots) but not been penetrated, obviously stemming from the dogs teeth scratching at the shell. you mentioned the lack of bitemarks but then again i still think a stray dog (or similar animal) is your most likely source of injury. i mean, come on
dog/racoon? possible
alligator?( could an alligator get into your pond?)
bird?....naaww
canadian hockey player? quite a way from vancouver to florida so i guess you can rule that out.
other turtles? seems unlikely given the size of that bitemark but wouldnt rule it out.
disease? havent ever heard of anything like a rotting illness or the likes creating gouges like that in a turtles shell.
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Idt a raccoon would be dumb enough to bite the shell, in all likeleyhood your turtle would be eviscerated of flesh if a raccoon got a hold of it. The clean bite could indicate a small gator nipped at it, gators even small ones have serious bite force. Most non snapping turtles I've handled would not have the capability to bite thru shell their jaw forces are not too great unless theyve matured to significant size. How big are the other turtles?
Edit: taking a closer look, the width of the bite seems to be incongruent with the shape of a turtle's jaws. The bite is wider than it is deep, I think if another turtle had done that the wound would extend further inward and not be as wide. You can probably test this theory by having one of your turtles bite some foam or a vegetable like a large slice of carrot and compare the marks. Gator snouts however are wider up top and could possibly form a bite like that. It was most likely a juvinille unable to fit the turtle in it's mouth else we would see many marks on the top and bottom of the shell indicating an attempt of a larger gator to swallow.
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I have this problem with a huge ass bird in my area. I live in Massachusetts and I have no idea what kind of bird it is but it's like 3-4 ft tall and has a huge wingspan. Bastard keeps attacking my fish!
I doubt a bird of any kind can make a bite like that though, and obviously if an animal like a raccoon got a hold of it you won't be just looking at a bite mark.
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Looks like a rock. Maybe the end of a snout of a small gator, but I wouldn't think a small gator could break a shell clean like that.
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My guess is that a snapping turtle showed up and took a bite out of him, then left. We have 6 ponds on our property and snappers often travel from pond to pond by way of land. It seems like part of their instinct makes them search for new ponds or water, so I wouldn't be surprised if one was passing through your area.
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Don't snappers have a fairly pointy beak??
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Is your turtle OK??
I used to have two turtles in an aquarium once (both male) and one turtle took a bite at the other like that. It ended up healing and leaving a huge 'scar' but yes it seems like this is something that happens in-between turtles.
Good luck!
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