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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
My question to you TL is, did you have this issue, and how did you overcome it? Is it a matter of just laddering to the point that you just don't feel nervous anymore? Or do you have some sort of ritual before/after a game to calm yourself? As always, your faithful servant | ||
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Ruyguy
Canada988 Posts
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Handfoot
United States62 Posts
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
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TehForce
1072 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
You will gather confidence as you play/win on the ladder often. | ||
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eltese
Sweden369 Posts
Anyways its just playing alot. Even though I get nervous I really dont mess up my bo's because of nerves but you know.. Im not pro so I miss alot of stuff ;P | ||
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PandaCore
Germany553 Posts
Now I mostly feel at ease when clicking that Find Match button. I think it's partly affected by routine, but mostly it's your expectation of the game and what you want to achieve and how serious you are about it. Also the course of the day so far factors in a lot. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Tsuycc
Canada269 Posts
On July 05 2011 18:51 TehForce wrote: Because ladder doesn't mean anything i dont get nervous at it. tourney play is where it is at This usually when there is something on the line, the adrenaline kicks in, my heart is pumping and the nerves kick in... one time in a tournament (online, so it wasnt that big of a deal) and yet, my hands were shaking before every match. | ||
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tokicheese
Canada739 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
-the more you ladder the less nervous/scared you are in general -ladder fear occurs when you take your rank too seriously/care too much about it -usually those who are less experienced tend to be more afraid to ladder -ladder fear does happen at higher levels but usually only applies for the first game of the day and isn't that drastic compared to the ladder fear of lower levels How to get rid of it? Play lots of ladder games and think of laddering as practice. Get used to the idea that losing = good because you can learn lessons from losing. Ignore your ladder rank/your positioning in your division because that will only impede you, play for the goal of simply playing a game and practicing. Hope that helps. | ||
nEAnS
Canada161 Posts
So yes be nervous! But don't stop queueing cuz you might learn a thing or two. | ||
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Pred8oar
Germany281 Posts
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zeOllie
Australia486 Posts
Now I usually don't get nervous cause I know people in my div are easy to beat (silver) but when I'm casted in a tourny I do get quite nervous. For me, it all goes away while I'm playing. Looking at the build-order by alt-tabbing helps. | ||
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Masayume
Netherlands208 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227381 At the end you can find a Q&A section where you can find specific answers too. GL & HF! | ||
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
On July 05 2011 18:53 eltese wrote: I get nervous. Not just at starcraft either if Im about to play a duel in QuakeLive I can get nervous to =) For some reason though Im not as nervous in tourneys ^^ Anyways its just playing alot. Even though I get nervous I really dont mess up my bo's because of nerves but you know.. Im not pro so I miss alot of stuff ;P Yeah same here. Anyway, don't wanna sound harsh or anything, but just man up and play :D you get used to it. | ||
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taldarimAltar
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
Time passed and I guess life made me more mature, even though games are still my favorite thing and I really devote a lot of time to them there is just no way I'll get stressed over something that is supposed to make me happy. Just chillax bro. You are no reaver with performance anxiety. | ||
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Carush
United States356 Posts
once i went to a big lan event tho i stopped getting them from online games and tourneys and just from lan events | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On July 05 2011 19:59 Alpino wrote: Just chillax bro. You are no reaver with performance anxiety. That's the best analogy I've ever heard for what I am feeling. Its as if I'm the reaver. Get into the game, have all my scarabs set, gonna do some damage...then I use the scarabs retardedly, they do sod all damage, and I die Then I never wanna be a reaver again, and become a dragoon in 4v4...or something. Less pressure there Its weird because I do the same builds, and I'm super comfortable with them in team games, but as soon as I step into a 1v1 match, something clicks and I start messing up, then I get nervous about messing up more, and start messing up even more. But yeah, I guess I just gotta persevere through the games and make it to the point that its just another match for me | ||
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Saicam
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Hashmeister
Germany238 Posts
Of course we humans, by nature, want to always win. But I would put my focus down on to I wanna have a good time and play some interesting games, see what problems I have in the game and so on. I think if you realize that you should be fine  | ||
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Cortza
South Africa328 Posts
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noggster
Sweden37 Posts
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
How did I overcome nerves? I admit I was nervous for the first few games in WC3 7 years ago but I just played a lot until everything became natural so nerves wasn't an issue. | ||
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Voltus
Australia30 Posts
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
On July 05 2011 21:04 noggster wrote: Had it in season one and most of season two. Then I just decided fuck it and started massing games and it passed pretty quickly. Exactly what happened to me. Just play and have fun and you'll get over those nerves in no time. | ||
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alpenrahm
Germany628 Posts
its a very natural feeling and great to have! it means you understood that whatever you are doing is not yet top notch and still new to you. however, being nervous in a game kills your performance so its good to try and calm yourself down a little. which you could try to do via the following methods: 1. be angry! identify flaws in your opponents play then start thinking like this---->omfg he build a second depot at 13 omg hes such a newb omg. make it very clear to yourself that your opponent suxxx 2. when you are nervous your body floods your brain with adrenalin and suddenly your perception becomes a LOT faster while your hands start shaking. blablabla remember that i could give you a pill that has exactly the same effect blabalbla .... so when your brain got rushed with adrenalin smoke a spliff and you have successfully countered your bodies newbish attempt to cheese you. 3.repetition. the more games you play the more confident you become and suddenly the only times you are really nervous are the games that pose a decent challenge eg. tournament play | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
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Flight
Brazil163 Posts
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
Keep playing bro! | ||
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Bao
United States89 Posts
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Sinklarr
Spain18 Posts
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
On July 05 2011 21:30 Apolo wrote: Stop playing starcraft. I'm pretty sure you'll find a lot of things in life that you enjoy, and can get a sense of accomplishment as much and more (and some more useful than being X good at playing a game), and don't make you feel nervous. lol what kind of advice is that? | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
Now for me to cool down my rage when on losing streaks...... lol. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 05 2011 18:44 Hassybaby wrote: I was nervous when I searched an 1v1 game. Sometimes I even cancelled the search. Then I played 10 1v1 in a row no matter the outcome of the game. I ended up with 4W6L, not too bad.So I've been playing SC2 for a while now, and to be honest, I'm terrible at 1v1. I know enough of the build orders and general mechanics to hold my own, but when it comes to laddering, I just get nervous, and then I start messing up. Team games I'm fine with, since I have the mentality that if I mess up a bit, I have team-mates that can make up for it, but in 1v1s, I don't have that cushion. Even when playing customs with friends I have some problems, and just mess up with timing and macro. My question to you TL is, did you have this issue, and how did you overcome it? Is it a matter of just laddering to the point that you just don't feel nervous anymore? Or do you have some sort of ritual before/after a game to calm yourself? Some days later I again played 10 games in a row. Since then, I play 1v1 ladder to get some excitement. Then I see the loading screen, map (I don't like it) and race (no clue how to play versus that race on that map.) But that even is the fun part, because often the opponent is quite clue-less either. So if I can spot a weakness in his play, I can go exploit it and crush him And when I lost, I watch the replay with 8x speed to see why he was able to outmacro me.So my advise is: - Accept your excitement and your are nervous. This is completely normal. - Accept you play will be not the best because you are nervous. But your opponent probably has similar issues. - When you get horribly crushed, but you survive a similar situation in another game, you will feel satisfaction. I think this worth some nerve wracking ladder games. | ||
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Silfurstar
Switzerland263 Posts
I can now say that even though I still feel a bit of apprehension before starting a session, I no longer feel that same mental block that prevented me from clicking that big orange button. It changed very quickly these last couple of weeks. Not by playing mass ladder until I wouldn't mind anymore, I think I was actually more nervous during season 2, even after 150 matches in season 1. The change happened after my first coaching session with Mr Bitter, and I think two things made it possible. 1/ I realized that the fear of my opponent was pushing me to play passively. I was like a prey, anguishly waiting for my predator to attack. The coaching made me play agressively, and suddenly I felt in control. Being in control makes fear go away partly. 2/ I started my stream and youtube, focused on improving myself. Streaming makes the whole laddering more fun, because you're sharing the experience with people. Analyzing my games on youtube has probably the best effect, because I now don't fear losing matches. I'm actually glad when I lose a match because I know I'll have something to analyse. I won't say it's never frustrating, but you have this other aspect that makes it easy to digest. So, I'm no one to give you advices and I don't know exactly what's making you nervous (me, I know it was defeat and this need to perform well), but if your reasons are like mine, maybe you can consider analyzing your defeats in some way... Maybe a notepad journal or something. Just write "ok, I lost this game because : .... and I could have won by doing : ....". Be specific, not just "bad macro / macro better", but specific moments where you made bad decisions and what would have been the better one. This might sound a little off topic, because it's not a thread about improving, but I think doing this will make you "ready" for your next matches. And being ready is the best way to not be scared, whatever the context may be. | ||
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LastDance
New Zealand510 Posts
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Nyovne
Netherlands19135 Posts
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Billd
Canada210 Posts
What I did was try and become the rank 1 bronze league player in the world. It sounds silly, but doing this is all about points and is basically just a grind. So I just played and it took a lot of pressure off because I stopped caring about promotions and what have you. A short three weeks later I find myself in gold league and I'm on the brink of a platinum promotion. I never became the highest ranked bronze player in the world because I got promoted too soon! I still use the same technique. it made laddering fun and less tense for me and I was able to apply what skills I do have more effectively during games. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
Solution: secret smurf account, where you can keep the mentality of 'just mess around on this account, the rank is irrelevant' - even when it goes higher than your actual account. That also lets you comfortably try new styles and enjoy playing a bit more when you don't feel pressured to produce results. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
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-swordguy
United States560 Posts
tl;dr - By playing the game you will eventually care about getting better (especially when you notice an improvement) and things that used to stop you from laddering (cheese/all ins) won't bother you. | ||
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