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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 10:13:05
July 01 2011 08:27 GMT
#1
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain in the guylined promo pic? Because of this lack of shaving? ... Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave. He also needs to practice in a PC bang as he is currently not in a team, making it harder for him to practice. He also gets less input as he has no team right now, one more reason to think about strategies instead of worrying about the shave.

And what to zing about the hair style? It's great, man. It's a statement. It says "Me: former champion, you: scrub." The only proper reaction to his hair-do is to look up to him in awe.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.

If anyone speaks about Fruitdealer, he should to so with respect. More so as he is probably older than many of us and much more accomplished as a Starcraft player anyway. He did what we don't ever could dream of.

He still is a great inspiration. His play still can be used to learn zerg. Even the games he lost can be recommended to study zerg. While he did some things wrong, he also did many things right.

He still is one of the world's best SC2 zergs. And even with the strange make-up, he looks like a people's hero.

+ Show Spoiler +
I wrote this rant 'in character' as a fruitdealer fanboy. I watched some of Wolf's casts before he was hired by GOM and consider him a super-nice guy with both good analyzis as well as an entertaining commentary style.


*
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
July 01 2011 08:30 GMT
#2
the signature really suits you huh.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 01 2011 08:30 GMT
#3
Do you know what a joke is?

He probably didnt mean anything offensive about it.
Think you took what he said too literal.
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
July 01 2011 08:31 GMT
#4
Well frankly i think Wolf probably has more respect for the pros than most of us, hes been doing a great job actually lol
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
July 01 2011 08:34 GMT
#5
I really hope you're trolling because you cant be serious
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 01 2011 08:37 GMT
#6
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
July 01 2011 08:45 GMT
#7
jokes man.... If you can't handle them don't watch?
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Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
July 01 2011 08:52 GMT
#8
wait who said this wasn't a compliment?

Do you also get mad when tastosis calls zenio bad boy of sc2?
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
July 01 2011 08:54 GMT
#9
i think we have been trolled
8==========))
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 08:58:27
July 01 2011 08:58 GMT
#10
Hate to say it but fruitdealer kind of does suck right now and hasn't been preforming for several months, I doubt he will ever be anywhere near the top again as other have surpassed both his skill level and his speed of improvement..
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
July 01 2011 09:02 GMT
#11
You need to be teached some grammars?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
July 01 2011 09:05 GMT
#12
I loled, cause FD actually did shave.
Love is more fun than hate.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
July 01 2011 09:07 GMT
#13
You're taking Wolf's comment way too seriously.

Also, people can choose who to respect and who to not respect. That is their personal choice and there is nothing you can do about it.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 01 2011 09:31 GMT
#14
Yeah, I'll just echo these guys. You're either being way too serious or this is just some bad troll.
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 09:55:31
July 01 2011 09:54 GMT
#15
Actually, its a pretty good troll since all you guys got baited. Idiots.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
MurMiLLo
Profile Joined February 2011
United States260 Posts
July 01 2011 09:57 GMT
#16
u just say that fd practices hard? lol
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45264 Posts
July 01 2011 10:16 GMT
#17
2/5 for either trying too hard to troll or missing the fact that Wolf actually respects the players.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
July 01 2011 10:50 GMT
#18
*taught
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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
July 01 2011 10:59 GMT
#19
On July 01 2011 17:27 [F_]aths wrote:
I wrote this rant 'in character' as a fruitdealer fanboy. I watched some of Wolf's casts before he was hired by GOM and consider him a super-nice guy with both good analyzis as well as an entertaining commentary style.


What a great way to spend your time! I'm sure you're not really as vain a person as this blog reveals you to be.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
July 01 2011 11:16 GMT
#20
On July 01 2011 19:50 Rainmaker5 wrote:
*taught
Thanks, I asked a mod to rename the title.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
July 01 2011 11:21 GMT
#21
No time to shave, wat. Is he shaving with a spoon, that it takes so long?

U trollin, right?
oh, hai
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
July 01 2011 11:27 GMT
#22
Hi Arne :D you cant be serious with this. Wolf and Unstable are really cool and as you know I am a HUGE zerg-player-fanboi myself, but to be fair FD was outclassed/outplayed and Wolf was just honest.
keep it deep! @zulison
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 01 2011 12:28 GMT
#23
What exactly did Wolf say about FD and shaving?
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
July 01 2011 13:34 GMT
#24
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 13:50:26
July 01 2011 13:46 GMT
#25
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

Show nested quote +
His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
July 01 2011 14:03 GMT
#26
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Dodge arrows
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 14:20:33
July 01 2011 14:18 GMT
#27
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
July 01 2011 14:38 GMT
#28
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
July 01 2011 15:33 GMT
#29
On July 01 2011 23:38 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
I did not say the game was close. I said that FD did not get roflstomped.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
July 01 2011 15:51 GMT
#30
On July 02 2011 00:33 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 23:38 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
I did not say the game was close. I said that FD did not get roflstomped.

Except he did get roflstomped.
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Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
July 01 2011 16:24 GMT
#31
BTW, your signature [F_]aths, is grammatically wrong Unless you meant on purpose for it to be "You don't chose to play zerg" in some form of trolling, but it should be choose ...

The second chose is correct.
d<^^>b
Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
July 01 2011 16:31 GMT
#32
Love it how the guy added in the spoiler at the bottom after he was fired down on the first page of the thread. To be honest, I think anybody should have the decency to clean himself up when he is going on such a big show like the GSL, but whatever the case wolf was only kidding and ignoring the spoiler you added in I think you have taken what he said too literally.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 16:48:22
July 01 2011 16:47 GMT
#33
On July 02 2011 00:51 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 00:33 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:38 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
I did not say the game was close. I said that FD did not get roflstomped.

Except he did get roflstomped.
I no longer reply to this trolling versus FD.



On July 02 2011 01:24 Horuku wrote:
BTW, your signature [F_]aths, is grammatically wrong Unless you meant on purpose for it to be "You don't chose to play zerg" in some form of trolling, but it should be choose ...

The second chose is correct.
How should the first "chose" be written?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
July 01 2011 16:52 GMT
#34
i think you are just reading into things a little too much
If you want peace... prepare for war.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 17:16:26
July 01 2011 17:00 GMT
#35
On July 02 2011 01:31 Geordie wrote:
Love it how the guy added in the spoiler at the bottom after he was fired down on the first page of the thread. To be honest, I think anybody should have the decency to clean himself up when he is going on such a big show like the GSL, but whatever the case wolf was only kidding and ignoring the spoiler you added in I think you have taken what he said too literally.
I was upset with Wolf's talk about Fruitdealer, because I am a fanboy. I am aware that Wolf's plenty statements about FD's current shape are correct and that his villain comment does not mean he actually considers Fruitdealer be, or looking like a villain. I still consider Wolf's commentary somewhat rude, because I have no objective look on FD. I thought the blog OP would express that, because I switched from reason to fanboyism several times, reflecting both part in me.

Sometimes one is an UH.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 01 2011 17:23 GMT
#36
yea i agree completely, wolf is terrible commentator
Brees on in
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
July 01 2011 17:24 GMT
#37
On July 02 2011 00:33 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 23:38 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
I did not say the game was close. I said that FD did not get roflstomped.

What's your definition of roflstomped then? He was outplayed in every aspect of the game, from macro to micro to positioning to timing to game sense. There was basically no moment in the game where Top wasn't building on his advantage and pulling further and further ahead.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6595 Posts
July 01 2011 17:51 GMT
#38
On July 02 2011 02:24 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 00:33 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:38 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
I did not say the game was close. I said that FD did not get roflstomped.

What's your definition of roflstomped then? He was outplayed in every aspect of the game, from macro to micro to positioning to timing to game sense. There was basically no moment in the game where Top wasn't building on his advantage and pulling further and further ahead.



Yeah... generally when a game is so one sided you can't just say "at least the guy who lost played well" because he didn't. However I don't really enjoy wolf's commentary either so... I guess I agree and disagree with you OP
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
July 01 2011 22:56 GMT
#39
On July 02 2011 02:24 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 00:33 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:38 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
I did not say the game was close. I said that FD did not get roflstomped.

What's your definition of roflstomped then? He was outplayed in every aspect of the game, from macro to micro to positioning to timing to game sense. There was basically no moment in the game where Top wasn't building on his advantage and pulling further and further ahead.
In my definition, rolfstomp is like killing a guy in SF2 or MK2 when you self got no scratch (or lets say 1-2 pixel HP lost.)
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Bengui
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada775 Posts
July 02 2011 03:25 GMT
#40
On July 02 2011 07:56 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 02:24 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 02 2011 00:33 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:38 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 23:03 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:46 [F_]aths wrote:
On July 01 2011 22:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 01 2011 17:37 Asha` wrote:
What did I hear in the Group C commentary? Fruitdealer looks like a villain? Because of this lack of shaving? Guys, this zerg is practicing so hard, he does not have time to shave.


wait, what.

His performance was not successful in Group C but there were some comments in the cast which put me under the impression that Wolf was trying to say he is not a great player anymore. Even though he lost two matches, FD did not get roflstomped either. As of now he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions fell down already. FD maybe is currently no champion material as he struggles to stay in Code-S. But he deserves our unending support nonetheless.


Wait what even more O_o. That first game vs Top was pretty dam brutal
FD hat many roaches which represented a threat to Top for some time. They also allowed the former champion to take more expansions. His baneling use was a bit weird. (If it had worked, he would be praised to be a genius, of course.)

I don't see your point. "His roaches represented a threat to top for some time" doesn't mean the game was close. Fruitdealer got absolutely rolled sorry; even as a FD fan I have to admit that.
Top waited (rightly so) before he absolutely knew he had the army to kill FD. The last parts of the game he was largely ahead. But he did not just build some units and rolled FD, he got more and more ahead while FD made few successful attacks only. If Top had attacked sooner, the oGs player probably would have won, too; but the game would have looked closer. He went (which was a good choice of course) the safe road.


So basically top's game sense and decision making were superior and he slowly compounded his advantages throughout the game until he had an insurmountable lead..... but the game was close? What are you trying to argue here.
I did not say the game was close. I said that FD did not get roflstomped.

What's your definition of roflstomped then? He was outplayed in every aspect of the game, from macro to micro to positioning to timing to game sense. There was basically no moment in the game where Top wasn't building on his advantage and pulling further and further ahead.
In my definition, rolfstomp is like killing a guy in SF2 or MK2 when you self got no scratch (or lets say 1-2 pixel HP lost.)


I kinda like FD myself, but that game was pretty much the worst roflstompage you'll see between two korean pros.
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