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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
June 03 2011 20:34 GMT
#121
Not surprised, that's MLG for you.
I <3 Plexa.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:35:41
June 03 2011 20:34 GMT
#122
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 03 2011 20:35 GMT
#123
On June 04 2011 05:33 MrCon wrote:
The 2 streams are up


Deja vu! A stream of people milling around a conference center looking bored!
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
June 03 2011 20:36 GMT
#124
http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/live/starcraft_2_red

Smooth so far.
Photoshop is over-powered.
Isken
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)1131 Posts
June 03 2011 20:36 GMT
#125
I don't like reading this post
I'm not enough of a sadist to appreciate seeing a new MLG failure so... I'll just pray that stars align and everyting runs smoothly
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
June 03 2011 20:36 GMT
#126
Stream red seems perfectly fine
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 03 2011 20:36 GMT
#127
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:39:07
June 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#128
On June 04 2011 05:36 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.



As far as I remember Dallas was pretty smooth for the players and not the stream. I guess the stream is smooth and now it is supposedly not smooth for the players. How are those the same issues?

The occasional game had a hiccup, but it wasn't as bad as the doomsayers are saying.
Brood War forever!
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
June 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#129
Stream might be working but if games are delayed because of shitty connection, it's not better :|
@ggmonx
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
June 03 2011 20:39 GMT
#130
On June 04 2011 05:36 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.


Not saying it's impossible. Where did I imply it was? Jibba brought up a specific point, which is the reason I quoted him when I responded. These venues probably have to be booked roughly a year in advance. And they might've had a couple of months to work out other issues, but if it's still the venue completely lacking in internet capabilities, I'd be curious as to their options.

Also, my original question isn't meant to be facetious. I'm generally curious as to what centers around the US can actually accommodate MLG without additional hardware being brought in.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
June 03 2011 20:39 GMT
#131
omfg 22 mins to go
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 03 2011 20:39 GMT
#132
On June 04 2011 05:38 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:36 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.



As far as I remember Dallas was pretty smooth for the players and not the stream. I guess the stream is smooth and now it is supposedly not smooth for the players. How are those the same issues?


Uhm, at Dallas they kept saying they were taking the Stream down because the players had such vile lag.
OblivionMage
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:40:01
June 03 2011 20:39 GMT
#133
On June 04 2011 05:36 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.



What are you talking about? You do know that it is possible to have the same problem, or different problems, at the same venue, or different venues, at any time, regardless of the preparations made.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:40:41
June 03 2011 20:39 GMT
#134
On June 04 2011 05:23 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:21 DeltruS wrote:
I have all the NA progamers on my freinds list and stragely enough like 10 just logged in at once. I guess MLG either just let them in or just fixed the internet. Most likely it is the former.


Why do you have all the NA progamers on your friends list?


I continually added them to freinds through chat rooms and match history.

Bad news: Nobody at MLG is logged on now.

Sheth just logged back on.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:40:56
June 03 2011 20:40 GMT
#135
On June 04 2011 05:39 OblivionMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:36 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.



What are you talking about? You do know that it is possible to have the same problem, or different problems, at the same venue, or different venues, at any time, regardless of the preparations made.


I sincerely doubt that anyone removed Dallas's internet infrastructure and transplanted it to Columbus. After all, that was what they were blaming last time.
InRuin
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:42:58
June 03 2011 20:41 GMT
#136
The Dark Lords demand a sacrifice; spilling the eagle's blood upon their black altar is the only way to appease the Great Internet Deities and restore order to the web.

Brothers of the Cyber Circle, find that eagle.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 20:44:34
June 03 2011 20:41 GMT
#137
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...

It's hard to believe load is a factor. They brought out the satellite trucks to handle the streaming, and gaming itself requires extremely little bandwidth.

https://www.smartcitynetworks.com/facilities/locationdetails.aspx?center=050

Again, bandwidth should be sufficient for gaming alone. The problem is that these facility's have their internet set up for trade shows and conventions where latency and routing isn't an issue.

Jingle_Bell, the issue is what is there to fix? These are huge infrastructure issues that weren't designed for gaming. You can't just "redo" them or bring out a new line to the venue. Unless you're willing to invest in major constructions months ahead of time (which probably costs more than MLG's budget) the internet is what it is and they have to live with it.

Now, they can choose event locations better in the future, of course. But the choosing happened well in advance, before they realized SC2 was even significant.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Higgs
Profile Joined July 2010
United States8 Posts
June 03 2011 20:41 GMT
#138
On June 04 2011 05:38 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:36 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:06 Mayor wrote:
I feel bad for MLG, but seriously, if Blizzard just added LAN...

I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.



As far as I remember Dallas was pretty smooth for the players and not the stream. I guess the stream is smooth and now it is supposedly not smooth for the players. How are those the same issues?

The occasional game had a hiccup, but it wasn't as bad as the doomsayers are saying.


Seemed like it was fine for the players as long as they weren't trying to stream them playing, soon as the streamers got into a game it crapped out, but the open bracket play continued fairly well even when the stream was down. Hopefully with the trucks handling the streaming the connection for the games should be ok.
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June 03 2011 20:42 GMT
#139
On June 04 2011 05:40 JingleHell wrote:
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On June 04 2011 05:39 OblivionMage wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:36 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:34 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:33 Jibba wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:20 JingleHell wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:17 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:12 zeru wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 zaii wrote:
Wait, Why don't we have Lan again?

Let's stop blaming blizzard for MLG's incompetence please.

We all want LAN but no other major tournament has had big problems like this at every event.


For the record, Blizzard had an internet problem with Battle.net at their Blizzcon a while back, they're just being reluctant and arrogant, it isn't MLG's fault.

On June 04 2011 05:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:10 Mayor wrote:
On June 04 2011 05:08 Higgs wrote:
[quote]
I was at MLG Dallas, and the whole time SC2 stream was down and people were DCing and everything was going to shit there were like 500 hundred people watching jerkoffs play Halo with 0 problems. Fucking ridiculous

That really just makes me frown, the amount of crap Blizzard makes us deal with isn't beneficial to Esports or their game, and when asked about it at HoTS preview they just say 'it's on their list' It's pretty stupid.

They didn't say that.

Chris Sigaty said that because of all the stuff that happens behind the scenes (something about their server maintenance being complex idk) it's not an option to add LAN in the near future.

Paraphrasing of course, but I don't think beating a dead horse will help the current situation.


Not what I heard on SOTG by Leah, but I'm not going to argue over it.


Regardless of whether Blizz should provide LAN for tournaments, MLG should prepare for known factors. The amount of bandwidth required is a known factor. MLG is at fault for their lack of preparation.

Preparing an internet connection at a major venue is not easy. If for some reason the connection goes to shit or isn't fit for gaming, they can't simply change venues, even within 6 months. They also probably booked this place and set the schedule a year in advance.


Pretty much this. I'd actually be curious as to what sites around the US can actually handle MLG's load without additional hardware being brought in. Note: That also means floor space for all of the people, gaming areas, etc...


Just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible. Let's face it. If the problems in Dallas were what MLG said they were, they shouldn't have them in Columbus. If they do, they lied like a rug during Dallas.



What are you talking about? You do know that it is possible to have the same problem, or different problems, at the same venue, or different venues, at any time, regardless of the preparations made.


I sincerely doubt that anyone removed Dallas's internet infrastructure and transplanted it to Columbus. After all, that was what they were blaming last time.


Do you really believe that's what Oblivion was trying to say?
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June 03 2011 20:44 GMT
#140
This is very bad news.
I agree MLG should have at least thought about the latency of their connections when so many computers are hooked up.
However blizzard's refusal to add LAN is definitely not helping esports either.
I recall a long time ago blizzard said tournament hosts would have access to a professional edition with lan support - I guess that never happened.
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