EPTKorean dog meat market - Page 3
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zeru
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote: Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. at least you're consistent  however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive? | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
it just the same as people eating bugs in thailand or no beef in india. It is a culture and you all should deal with it. no racist but "haizzzz" to white people :3 | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote: at least you're consistent however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive? This argument is pretty weird, I mean in terms of cost it would be much cheaper to just have everyone surviving off millet and rice. It's not about survival of the human population it's entirely about treating animals humanely or not. | ||
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
i don't know that there's any truth to that, just saying that's why people complain, it's not a 'look, dogs are so cute' as much as a cruelty thing.. although wiki seems to suggest that that's not the case any longer so i really don't know.. that'd be my guess why the guy got so aggresive though, another site suggested that it is actually illegal in korea, just has a blind eye turned by the authorities.. | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote: yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. uh huh. because the suffering and death of thousands of human beings is better than eating animals for sustenance and pleasure. makes perfect sense to me. | ||
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
I wanted to eat it because if I was in another country, I would have wanted to eat all the different kinds of foreign food in that country. A dog is an animal in the end. I won't go into the details about how it tasted and such because people won't like it. edit: also i think the guy hit you because the global perception of eating dog meat is very bad and he thought you were press or something. | ||
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NPHarris
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On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote: Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. Can you be absolutely sure about that? | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:19 sc4k wrote: This argument is pretty weird, I mean in terms of cost it would be much cheaper to just have everyone surviving off millet and rice. It's not about survival of the human population it's entirely about treating animals humanely or not. my point is whether treating the animals humanely or not is worth it. if there wasnt a market for 'humane' meat, then more food can be produced to feed more people. the thing holding that back is the demand for 'humane' meat. people wouldn't just eat millet and rice because they don't want to (and you need more nutrients than that), so unless you can convince people to want to only eat millet and rice, then your solution of having everyone eat millet and rice won't work. the same applies for humane/inhumane meat. hence why i was trying to convince hifriend that the 'inhumane' way might be more beneficial. | ||
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:25 StutteR wrote: TBH I have eaten dog meat in Korea. It looked pretty much like this I wanted to eat it because if I was in another country, I would have wanted to eat all the different kinds of foreign food in that country. A dog is an animal in the end and not sentient. I won't go into the details about how it tasted and such because people won't like it. edit: also i think the guy hit you because the global perception of eating dog meat is very bad and he thought you were press or something. Dogs, just like any other animals are sentient. -_- | ||
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:28 TheRhox wrote: Dogs, just like any other animals are sentient. -_- oops i guess I was using the sci-fi definition of sentient. | ||
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:30 TheRhox wrote: Idk, look up the definition maybe >> I looked up the wiki and noticed my error. Sentient means something else in scifi- "a non-human character described as "sentient" will typically have similar abilities, qualities and rights to a human being." | ||
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:32 StutteR wrote: I looked up the wiki and noticed my error. Sentient means something else in scifi- "a non-human character described as "sentient" will typically have similar abilities, qualities and rights to a human being." Oh like in Star Trek: TNG with Data? I think in the sci-fi sense of the word he is described as non-sentient. But realistically he would be classified as a sentient being. | ||
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koreasilver
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On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote: yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. | ||
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote: I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:42 TheRhox wrote: I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it. It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc. | ||
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:47 koreasilver wrote: It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc. Seals are so cute though  | ||
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