EPTWithin the historical context of Korea, the majority of the Korean population used to be farmers. The cow was an essential part of the farming process in Korea, and as most farmers lived in poverty during the Chosun era, cows were often the most prized possession for a family. In this context, eating a dog would make far more sense than eating a cow because the cow was worth far more.
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koreasilver
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Within the historical context of Korea, the majority of the Korean population used to be farmers. The cow was an essential part of the farming process in Korea, and as most farmers lived in poverty during the Chosun era, cows were often the most prized possession for a family. In this context, eating a dog would make far more sense than eating a cow because the cow was worth far more. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
They also make good jackets | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote: at least you're consistent  however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive? I don't think that's a very reasonable argument, in fact it could be applied to practically anything i.e. "do you really think x is worthwhile, when in fact those resources and that manpower could have gone into helping the starving?" Yes, I do think supporting organic local farms is always a worthwhile choice, not only does it guarantee that the production meets some fairly basic standards in terms of ethical handling of farm animals but it also has a tremendously smaller effect on the environment than typical meat factories. Industrialized meat production isn't the solution to starvation by far; it ruins soil, takes a ridiculous amount of resources, produces little food in exchange for a fuckload of crops that would probably suffice to feed the entire world etc. | ||
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Lucumo
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On May 24 2011 06:01 koreasilver wrote: [...]over the years their population exploded. It's an environmental duty to keep it in check. Couldn't the same thing apply to humans?  | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
Deal with it. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
That's what division of social classes does | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
Yeah, it's partially why I think gay people are awesome. They're like humanity's natural population control. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
As for seeing the picture of those dogs in the cage, I feel a bit saddened now. Seeing cute dogs like that and thinking that they will soon meet their end is a rather unsettling thought. I dunno, but it's just the way I was raised; I think that eating animals considered to be "household pets" is somewhat disturbing for me. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:47 koreasilver wrote: It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc. Why is what I said stupid? It's just a different opinion to you. There is no lack of knowledge or intelligence, therefore it's not stupidity. I just think people who eat dogs are scum, I don't give a shit what their culture is. Indians are welcome to think of me as scum for eating cows. I think cows are entirely moronic creatures that are pretty much the definition of food machine, dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, just being all around win creatures. (I'm still not happy with cows being killed by the way, the best situation for humanity would be entirely synthetic meat, which I would happily buy.) | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote: dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, I think that's pretty much the definition of a moronic animal. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote: Why is what I said stupid? It's just a different opinion to you. There is no lack of knowledge or intelligence, therefore it's not stupidity. I just think people who eat dogs are scum, I don't give a shit what their culture is. Indians are welcome to think of me as scum for eating cows. I think cows are entirely moronic creatures that are pretty much the definition of food machine, dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, just being all around win creatures. (I'm still not happy with cows being killed by the way, the best situation for humanity would be entirely synthetic meat, which I would happily buy.) lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not On May 24 2011 06:49 HwangjaeTerran wrote: I think that's pretty much the definition of a moronic animal. Why do you have a siege tank when I am a vulture | ||
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elkram
United States221 Posts
I think National Geographic did a show about it once, and I'm sure the travel channel has done something on it. And whenever it is shown, there is always a mentioning of how Koreans are hostile towards outsiders looking at their dog meat markets b/c they feel that all the foreigners want to do is take pictures and talk about how "uncivilized" korea is because they eat dog. So i feel that is probably where that one guy is coming from. I felt like I had more in me, maybe I'll edit some more stuff into this post later. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:49 HwangjaeTerran wrote: I think that's pretty much the definition of a moronic animal. What I meant by that is that cows can't actually do anything useful. They just stand around and fail. I'll admit that they can pull plows but meh, still pretty fail. Dogs are just a series of epic services towards their human friends. | ||
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koreasilver
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On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote: Why is what I said stupid? It's just a different opinion to you. There is no lack of knowledge or intelligence, therefore it's not stupidity. I just think people who eat dogs are scum, I don't give a shit what their culture is. Indians are welcome to think of me as scum for eating cows. I think cows are entirely moronic creatures that are pretty much the definition of food machine, dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, just being all around win creatures. (I'm still not happy with cows being killed by the way, the best situation for humanity would be entirely synthetic meat, which I would happily buy.) On average, pigs are more intelligent than dogs, and cows are also quite intelligent. You pretty much only think that cows are "entirely moronic creatures" because you've never actually had the time to live with one for a prolonged period of time, and because you live in a culture that is almost entirely divorced from the reality of the cow and predominantly view cows as something that is simply a tool that produces milk and provides meat. Doesn't the simple fact that you engage in the same thing that some Asians do to dogs, to cows and pigs in your own culture, and yet have the audacity to point your finger at Asians and spew off in some insufferable self-righteous rage reveal you as scum? What a ludicrous mentality. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote: lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? | ||
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zeru
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote: What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote: What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? R O F L Well, you are sc4k after all. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:18 koreasilver wrote: On average, pigs are more intelligent than dogs, and cows are also quite intelligent. You pretty much only think that cows are "entirely moronic creatures" because you've never actually had the time to live with one for a prolonged period of time, and because you live in a culture that is almost entirely divorced from the reality of the cow and predominantly view cows as something that is simply a tool that produces milk and provides meat. Doesn't the simple fact that you engage in the same thing that some Asians do to dogs, to cows and pigs in your own culture, and yet have the audacity to point your finger at Asians and spew off in some insufferable self-righteous rage reveal you as scum? What a ludicrous mentality. I have NO PROBLEM with you calling me scum for eating beef. I accept that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. I feel remorse that we eat them. I hope that they can be treated well in their lives and if I buy bacon I make sure I know where it comes from and how the pigs in the facility are treated. On the other hand, pigs don't have a record of 'friendship' we have with dogs. So I feel less is 'owed' to their species by humans. I know that might sound fluffy but what the hell do I care about your opinion of my opinion .To be honest, cows just stand around and convert grass to meat. I also accept that they might have some intelligence and some emotional intelligence, but as long as they are raised in a humane way and treated with some degree of dignity I don't have too much of a problem with preying on them, I mean they have SO much meat on them. Still doesn't change the fact that I think dogs are amazing and great friends for humanity and the entire species should be given a 'free pass' as far as I am concerned, and why I hate all the humans who eat dogs (giving exception to the ones who are starving). | ||
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