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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 10:50:58
May 24 2011 10:45 GMT
#101
I think people who eat meat in general have no right whatsoever to complain about others eating certain kind of animals, or fish for that matter. That's double standard in my book.

For me, as long as the animal is raised for dining purpose, it's perfectly fine to eat it.

P/S: I don't like eating dogs or cats though I've eaten dog meat twice (being a Vietnamese, you just can't help it). I stopped simply because it was not my cup of tea
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 10:53:59
May 24 2011 10:45 GMT
#102
On May 24 2011 17:48 KingofHearts wrote:
i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.

ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too.

Hey, you will be surprise what human will do in order to survive. I'm sure you will find dog meat is the best meat in the world if you are starving for a few days

Btw, people seems to misunderstand alot about dog meat. Lets me clear something up.
I eat dog meat few times a year. Dog meat by no mean is the regular meat as pork or beef.
We don't eat our own dog, we won't prepare dog meat ourself. If we want to eat dog meat we'll go the restaurant.

For me, dog meat is just like any other meat.

I bet, if people look at an alive pig, then if the pig get slaughter right before them, most will not dare to it that pork. Same logic apply here. When I go out to eat dog meat, all that present to me are the dishes.

If I know the dog before hand, I would never eat them.
Terran
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 11:22:00
May 24 2011 11:21 GMT
#103
Idk stuff like this only seems bad to me because the animals don't have large areas to roam around and live a semi normal life until picked for death in a non mean way like..well I actually don't know what method that would be but seeing dogs and other animals in little cages seems vile to me and shows how stupid people can be. It may be a local thing some places and I have seen worse and even in the US there are worse things sometimes going on albeit not accepted by the public and stopped when known.

The big thing in this specific case seems to be that dogs have an emotional attachment to humans in "most" cases, I have not seen loads and loads of cows or goats that act this way but I realize that any animal can become attached to people so knowing that seeing dogs in small ass cages about to be sold for food in my opinion is mean.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 24 2011 11:37 GMT
#104
On May 24 2011 20:21 RaLakedaimon wrote:
Idk stuff like this only seems bad to me because the animals don't have large areas to roam around and live a semi normal life until picked for death in a non mean way like..well I actually don't know what method that would be but seeing dogs and other animals in little cages seems vile to me and shows how stupid people can be. It may be a local thing some places and I have seen worse and even in the US there are worse things sometimes going on albeit not accepted by the public and stopped when known.

The big thing in this specific case seems to be that dogs have an emotional attachment to humans in "most" cases, I have not seen loads and loads of cows or goats that act this way but I realize that any animal can become attached to people so knowing that seeing dogs in small ass cages about to be sold for food in my opinion is mean.

Some dogs are born to be pets others born to be eaten, I don't see a problem there
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OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 13:44:06
May 24 2011 13:42 GMT
#105
shit. just moments ago i was thinking of the weird food thread and was pondering of trying dog meat. was about to ask where do i find dog meat on that thread.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 24 2011 13:49 GMT
#106
On May 24 2011 22:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
shit. just moments ago i was thinking of the weird food thread and was pondering of trying dog meat. was about to ask where do i find dog meat on that thread.

Now you know
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
May 24 2011 14:05 GMT
#107
Meh, I wanted to try dog when I was in China but nobody else I was travelling with did.

Now I'll never have the chance ;_;
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 24 2011 14:14 GMT
#108
On May 24 2011 23:05 bonifaceviii wrote:
Meh, I wanted to try dog when I was in China but nobody else I was travelling with did.

Now I'll never have the chance ;_;

Same as the time my friends took me to eat pufferfish sashimi.
I didn't eat it then
now I never will have the chance
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 15:41:56
May 24 2011 15:40 GMT
#109
What you do not know is that you have stumbled into dark, massive conspiracy of underground animal trade and consumption market that spans entire Asian continent, supported by influential mans in both legal and illegal territories. The man punching you has been surveillance tactic to measure the strength of their target, and now they have your face, your background, your balls, and you don't even know it. Now you, being chased by merciless assassination squad capable of holding its ground with most of the world's special forces, must travel throughout the rugged terrains of India, secret unsanctioned laboratory of China, dangerous capital of the only major communist nation in existence, to discover the truth no one would have ever imagined. A terrifying, ultimate betrayal unfolding in very heart of Western Civilization...

Call me 'The Informat'. Your paper-thin effort to survive against immeasurable odds start now.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 24 2011 15:46 GMT
#110
On May 25 2011 00:40 Hesmyrr wrote:
What you do not know is that you have stumbled into dark, massive conspiracy of underground animal trade and consumption market that spans entire Asian continent, supported by influential mans in both legal and illegal territories. The man punching you has been surveillance tactic to measure the strength of their target, and now they have your face, your background, your balls, and you don't even know it. Now you, being chased by merciless assassination squad capable of holding its ground with most of the world's special forces, must travel throughout the rugged terrains of India, secret unsanctioned laboratory of China, dangerous capital of the only major communist nation in existence, to discover the truth no one would have ever imagined. A terrifying, ultimate betrayal unfolding in very heart of Western Civilization...

Call me 'The Informat'. Your paper-thin effort to survive against immeasurable odds start now.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
May 24 2011 15:58 GMT
#111
i thought korea/china was known for dog eating
i remember watching a korean sitcom ages ago (nonstop or was it 3 guys 3 girls..) and a kid ate dog meat by accident and full went nuts about it while the parents were like "lol"

also relevant to topic: i eat kangaroos all day long

yumyum
lalala
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 24 2011 16:02 GMT
#112
On May 25 2011 00:58 youngminii wrote:
i thought korea/china was known for dog eating
i remember watching a korean sitcom ages ago (nonstop or was it 3 guys 3 girls..) and a kid ate dog meat by accident and full went nuts about it while the parents were like "lol"

also relevant to topic: i eat kangaroos all day long

yumyum

MY BROTHER!!!!!!
I remember going lol while watching that, THAT WAS LIKE AGES AGO
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
May 24 2011 16:04 GMT
#113
On May 25 2011 01:02 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 00:58 youngminii wrote:
i thought korea/china was known for dog eating
i remember watching a korean sitcom ages ago (nonstop or was it 3 guys 3 girls..) and a kid ate dog meat by accident and full went nuts about it while the parents were like "lol"

also relevant to topic: i eat kangaroos all day long

yumyum

MY BROTHER!!!!!!
I remember going lol while watching that, THAT WAS LIKE AGES AGO

HAHAHAHAHHAA i can't believe there's someone else that knows what i'm talking about
that episode has always stood out in my memory 'cause that's where i learnt dogs were food

GOD that was a long time ago, i must've been like 7 or something
lalala
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 24 2011 16:31 GMT
#114
On May 24 2011 12:21 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 06:03 hifriend wrote:
On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:
On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:
On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:
On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess.

you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms?

On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:
I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad.

chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions.

Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat.

at least you're consistent

however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive?

I don't think that's a very reasonable argument, in fact it could be applied to practically anything i.e. "do you really think x is worthwhile, when in fact those resources and that manpower could have gone into helping the starving?"

Yes, I do think supporting organic local farms is always a worthwhile choice, not only does it guarantee that the production meets some fairly basic standards in terms of ethical handling of farm animals but it also has a tremendously smaller effect on the environment than typical meat factories. Industrialized meat production isn't the solution to starvation by far; it ruins soil, takes a ridiculous amount of resources, produces little food in exchange for a fuckload of crops that would probably suffice to feed the entire world etc.

it's a reasonable argument because you can apply it to everything. well we've actually run into a dead-end in this discussion because we clearly have different values that aren't reconcilable. I value the extra food that can be produced while you value the ethical treatment of animals. and our arguments make sense based on what we value.

um and i'll just refrain from replying to sc4k's posts....

I agree, you're not making sense.
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 17:04:32
May 24 2011 17:02 GMT
#115
I'm a Canadian. I want the U.S., Canada, and just the western world to thrive in general for my own future prospects. But when I read certain posts in this thread from people who are revolted by the idea of eating dog meat (while being omnivores themselves), I just really, really, really hope the western industrialized world goes to hell one day and you guys are reduced to eating grasshoppers (my grandfather did that during WW2...), maybe then dog meat will start to become somewhat appealing, ya?

But again, I shouldn't even get all worked up because these are the same people that contribute to the $50 BILLION pets industry (just in the U.S.) every year.

I just don't fucking understand why this concept is so fucking hard for some fucking people to fucking understand. Fuck.

Let me break it down for you:

People keep pigs for pets. They do not eat their pet pigs.

(Some) People who keep pigs for pets still eat pork - I'm making a (good) assumption here, and moreover I know a friend that keeps a teacup pig in her room yet still eats pork.

(Some) People who keep pigs for pets still eat pork. They eat pork processed at slaughterhouses (where the prior living conditions of the animals are horrid, not much better or worse than those caged dogs). They do NOT eat their pet pig.

Now, People keep dogs for pets. They do not eat their pet dogs.

(Some) People who keep dogs for pets still eat dog meat.

(Some) People who keep dogs for pets still eat dog meat. They eat dog meat processed at slaughterhouses and restaurants. They do NOT eat their pet dogs.


Animals are food, dogs/cats/rabbits/hamsters/rats/guinea pigs/etc included. Get. Over. It.
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 17:08:30
May 24 2011 17:07 GMT
#116
On May 25 2011 02:02 Ravencruiser wrote:
.

why are you so angry though? there's only like one or two posts in this entire thread that don't share your view on the matter.
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
May 24 2011 17:17 GMT
#117
On May 25 2011 02:07 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 02:02 Ravencruiser wrote:
.

why are you so angry though? there's only like one or two posts in this entire thread that doesn't share your view on the matter.


Because my girlfriend is the same way along with my close group of friends. It's touchy issue for me and I haven't had my first cigg of the day yet (trying to quit).

With that said, I attended a family dinner last New Year's back in the motherland. There were dog meat, cat meat, deer meat and donkey meat on the table alongside your more popular meats like pork and beef. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between most of the meat especially due to the way they were prepared (very spicy and tasty), however dog meat had a distinct texture that was only slightly similar to donkey meat (more chewy) which I prefer over the regular chicken/beef/pork combo. If availability and price weren't an issue I'd probably munch on some everyday
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 17:43:56
May 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#118
On May 24 2011 17:48 KingofHearts wrote:
i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.

ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too.

lolwut
starving = various foods available for your choosing

theres nothing different between eating a dog and eating a cow. people don't have "whatecer reasons" to eat dog. it's another type of meat just like chicken, pork, fish, or whatever. same with dolphins and whales. the only thing bad about this is if they harvest them to the brink of extinction, which is a totally different problem.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 24 2011 17:45 GMT
#119
On May 25 2011 02:43 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 17:48 KingofHearts wrote:
i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.

ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too.

lolwut
starving = various foods available for your choosing

theres nothing different between eating a dog and eating a cow. people don't have "whatecer reasons" to eat dog. it's another type of meat just like chicken, pork, fish, or whatever. same with dolphins and whales. the only thing bad about this is if they harvest them to the brink of extinction, which is a totally different problem.

It's ok he can starve to death when we resort to dog eating
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
May 24 2011 18:00 GMT
#120
On May 25 2011 01:31 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 12:21 ieatkids5 wrote:
On May 24 2011 06:03 hifriend wrote:
On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:
On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:
On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:
On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess.

you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms?

On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:
I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad.

chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions.

Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat.

at least you're consistent

however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive?

I don't think that's a very reasonable argument, in fact it could be applied to practically anything i.e. "do you really think x is worthwhile, when in fact those resources and that manpower could have gone into helping the starving?"

Yes, I do think supporting organic local farms is always a worthwhile choice, not only does it guarantee that the production meets some fairly basic standards in terms of ethical handling of farm animals but it also has a tremendously smaller effect on the environment than typical meat factories. Industrialized meat production isn't the solution to starvation by far; it ruins soil, takes a ridiculous amount of resources, produces little food in exchange for a fuckload of crops that would probably suffice to feed the entire world etc.

it's a reasonable argument because you can apply it to everything. well we've actually run into a dead-end in this discussion because we clearly have different values that aren't reconcilable. I value the extra food that can be produced while you value the ethical treatment of animals. and our arguments make sense based on what we value.

um and i'll just refrain from replying to sc4k's posts....

I agree, you're not making sense.

neither are you
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