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Many of you may know about my infamous  Storkism trip to korea in december (see my other blogs), I also wanted to share this little story:
When I was riding the subway, I saw a tourist information in it where interesting places on the route were marked and a description in english was added. So when I came to Moran station, I saw that there was a market right here so I decided to take a look, maybe there's something interesting for tourists if its on a map like that.
When I finally reached the place I was very disappointed. There were no real interesting places or markets at all, rather farmers selling their own stuff or cheap chinese 1 dollar per piece stuff. nevertheless I decided to take walk around the parameter when I suddendly came to a dirty road without concrete at the other side of the place. I instantly smelled meat and I knew that this wasn't something regular i already know. So I saw these cages with dogs, goats and other animals. Like fried dogs were also on the dirty cages and this place seemed so different from the korea I know. Everything was really messy, it smelled, but I'm also the type of guy to respect local things so I wasn't that horrified by it.
To be honest, I was wearing expensive clothes, I was a foreigner, it wasn't something which I should see as a tourist at all, this wasn't the place were I should be. The shops seemed to be empty and thats when I decided to take a photo - bad mistake!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GpMCO.jpg)
~1700 won per 100g , there's a goat on the left side I think
Instantly some guy from behind kinda assaulted me, pushed and punched me. I shouted to him in german that he will see an early grave if he goes on with that & pushed him away....it helped and he kinda left. I walked down and saw everything but people watched me carefully, I felt that they were pretty hostile towards me and it was a good idea to just go away...
To be honest, I have no real opinion on this. I like meat (of course not of dogs), but I eat vegetarian stuff most of the time. European people were really disgusted by my story but I also want to mention that only older people seem to eat that kind of meat and youngers don't, also I think that a foreigner should respect local surroundings instead of trashing them... I had no idea that this market is so infamous - thanks to google I know it now!
 
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Netherlands45349 Posts
First of all this Gif is obligatory, see it as a token of respect:
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On the topic, I don't find it really weird that they eat dogs, I mean really they eat anything and why shouldn't they?Its meat in their eyes(and mine too really), ofcourse I can't eat a qt looking puppy but i'd really like to try eating dog/cat or whatever the hell ''odd''(In our eyes) shennigans they sell there.
As for the guy who assaulted you, I don't understand, perhaps he wasn't used to someone photographing it, or perhaps he thought you would report him to the police(for reasons I don't know) or something. I'm sure he had a good reason, either that or he is just a crazy guy, they have those everywhere.
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Well daniel, that is definitely strange.. I don't know the area of course, but I still think foreigners should not be harassed like that. Maybe they are sensitive about the business, I have no clue.
It doesn't really bother me too much, they're just animals and humans eat animals. Does seem weird though.
XD
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I'd never eat dog or cat willingly, i'm fine with the meats i'm used to, or occasionally some wild meat.
As for others eating them, meh, i dont reall care
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So what's the insider deal on the market then, why is it infamous?
(a.k.a. what do I google to find out what you did?)
Why do you think they were especially harsh, was it an unsightly scene you weren't supposed to see or...
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I think it's sad that the morality of humanity didn't develop further than this. I get so depressed when I see things like this.
(Obviously this includes the entire meat industry and not just this)
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Austria is famous for their veal, dog isn't much different. I admit the attack on you was unnecessary but they are probably hounded (geddit?) by activists and other nutjobs due to their line of work. I think if I was offered dogmeat then I'd try it, I love my pet dog as much as anyone but I really don't see the difference between dog, pig, cow and chicken other than one is traditionally a pet.
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My family has ate both, but mostly dog meat. I am not appalled by it but nonetheless it doesnt go along with my Western views.
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The only reason people disagree with it is because they're so close to dogs, I have a dog and the idea disgusts me but I understand why it disgusts me, I would equally be disgusted by eating lamb if I had a pet lamb for many years...
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I think the guy probably thought you were a reporter or a investigator (being a foreigner with a camera) and was alarmed.
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If I was a dog meat dealer and I saw someone taking pics, I would be quite offended as well, but I wouldn't attack the guy. Dog meat dealers often get pestered by activists who somehow believe eating dog is more wrong than beef/pork/poultry just because dogs are cuter. It's pretty annoying when people try to ruin your business because of their own ignorance.
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From what I know, there's a specific breed of dog that is raised for this purpose.
I guess a lot of people who sell dog meat get really defensive about the whole practice because they've probably gotten a lot of grief about it.
+ Show Spoiler +The dog in the third cage is staring into my soul... </3
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Surprised they attacked you. It's perfectly ok to eat dogs. People around the world eat pigs like none other, but pigs rank higher than dogs on the intelligence index.
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India thinks that the West is disgusting because we eat cows.
Personally, I have no qualms about eating any animal. Food is food.
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On May 24 2011 02:57 Chairman Ray wrote:
If I was a dog meat dealer and I saw someone taking pics, I would be quite offended as well, but I wouldn't attack the guy. Dog meat dealers often get pestered by activists who somehow believe eating dog is more wrong than beef/pork/poultry just because dogs are cuter. It's pretty annoying when people try to ruin your business because of their own ignorance.
Or they just think eating meat is wrong in general.
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I'm curious what the English description on the tourist information actually said (not verbatim or anything) that suggested that area as a point of interest.
Personally, I wouldn't eat dog meat, but I wouldn't really care if others did. It's not like they're going out and eating a poodle or some shit. There's a specific kind raised specifically for this purpose as far as I know.
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On May 24 2011 03:06 The_LiNk wrote:
India thinks that the West is disgusting because we eat cows.
Personally, I have no qualms about eating any animal. Food is food.
Humans included?
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On May 24 2011 03:21 VIB wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 03:06 The_LiNk wrote:
India thinks that the West is disgusting because we eat cows.
Personally, I have no qualms about eating any animal. Food is food. Humans included?
I think cannibalizing has a high risk of changing your genetic makeup, but don't quote me on it.
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Is that the market of which the videos show skinned dogs thrown onto a pile still alive?
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On May 24 2011 03:21 VIB wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 03:06 The_LiNk wrote:
India thinks that the West is disgusting because we eat cows.
Personally, I have no qualms about eating any animal. Food is food. Humans included?
Yes.
See what I did there?
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Well it's just like how some people see how we eat pork or beef as barbaric.
After all the media international reports in the past about this stuff I don't think it's a stretch that the vendors would be sensitive.
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One thing I don't get about the eating dogs thing that just doesn't make sense is that as far as I know it is not like dogs (or cats) have a ton of meat on them, especially when you compare them to cows, pigs, (maybe?) sheep/lambies, birds, etc. Wouldn't they mostly be fur and bones and therefore not a very good animal to pick out specifically to eat.
Also, in particular those doggies in the cage look too cute to eat 
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On May 24 2011 03:31 mikeymoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 03:21 VIB wrote:On May 24 2011 03:06 The_LiNk wrote:
India thinks that the West is disgusting because we eat cows.
Personally, I have no qualms about eating any animal. Food is food. Humans included? I think cannibalizing has a high risk of changing your genetic makeup, but don't quote me on it.
It also decreases Karma.
Luckily, I've slayed enough Ghouls so that a few bites wouldn't hurt.
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I think there's something different about eating predators  i wouldn't eat lion meat for example, seems wrong somehow. Of course i don't judge though, thinking rationally i suppose it's no worse than any other kind of meat.
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On May 24 2011 03:48 Geovu wrote:One thing I don't get about the eating dogs thing that just doesn't make sense is that as far as I know it is not like dogs (or cats) have a ton of meat on them, especially when you compare them to cows, pigs, (maybe?) sheep/lambies, birds, etc. Wouldn't they mostly be fur and bones and therefore not a very good animal to pick out specifically to eat. Also, in particular those doggies in the cage look too cute to eat
In countries in SE asia there is not much cattle or pigs and if there are they are usually too expensive for the poorer people to eat. Also poor people do not mind picking apart every bone for a scrap of meat no matter what it is, even eat the marrow in the bones.
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On May 24 2011 03:54 Terrakin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 03:48 Geovu wrote:One thing I don't get about the eating dogs thing that just doesn't make sense is that as far as I know it is not like dogs (or cats) have a ton of meat on them, especially when you compare them to cows, pigs, (maybe?) sheep/lambies, birds, etc. Wouldn't they mostly be fur and bones and therefore not a very good animal to pick out specifically to eat. Also, in particular those doggies in the cage look too cute to eat In countries in SE asia there is not much cattle or pigs and if there are they are usually too expensive for the poorer people to eat. Also poor people do not mind picking apart every bone for a scrap of meat no matter what it is, even eat the cartilage in the bones.
Cartilage is delicious but it is a connective tissue, not in the bones. You talking about bone marrow or what?
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Look at the Shiba Inu inside the second cage... Oh, poor thing
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Pretty sure cows didn't have as much meat on them before humans started messing with them.
You can make a dog fat too, you know.
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On May 24 2011 02:49 Valikyr wrote:
I think it's sad that the morality of humanity didn't develop further than this. I get so depressed when I see things like this.
(Obviously this includes the entire meat industry and not just this)
how does morality have anything to do with survival? We eat meat because thats what our bodies are designed to eat, we are omnivores, we can not survive without eating both veg and meat..... there is not moral issue about eating an animal, thats how the universe works... everything eats something, usually animals eat other animals unless they specifically evolved to be herbivores, which we didn't.
Free range and all that stuff is good for the animals, but they are being bred to be eaten, we are no different from any other animal on this planet except we are "smarter".... we make it so our food can't run away and is easy catch, thats what intelligent animals do, its no different than a Lion picking off the weak members of the herd.
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To be honest I'd rather eat cat and dog meat than pork, pigs are fucking disgusting.
Pork is the worst tasting meat there is.
I don't understand what the Western world has against eating those.
If there wasn't health risks I'd even be allright with eating human flesh.
I'd be okay with people eating me though after I die, digging people into ground or burning them is such a waste.
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As a huge, huge dog lover, this is just sickening .
Also dogs aren't really meaty animals like cows and pigs and others, unless you try your hardest to fatten them up. But most animals used as livestock naturally carry a lot of fat on them.
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I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad.
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Kind of funny seeing how many people actually go by the "Dennis Leary theory of cuteness and edibility" when determining which animals they do and don't eat.
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Weird that they'd assault you like that.
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On May 24 2011 04:07 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 03:54 Terrakin wrote:On May 24 2011 03:48 Geovu wrote:One thing I don't get about the eating dogs thing that just doesn't make sense is that as far as I know it is not like dogs (or cats) have a ton of meat on them, especially when you compare them to cows, pigs, (maybe?) sheep/lambies, birds, etc. Wouldn't they mostly be fur and bones and therefore not a very good animal to pick out specifically to eat. Also, in particular those doggies in the cage look too cute to eat In countries in SE asia there is not much cattle or pigs and if there are they are usually too expensive for the poorer people to eat. Also poor people do not mind picking apart every bone for a scrap of meat no matter what it is, even eat the cartilage in the bones. Cartilage is delicious but it is a connective tissue, not in the bones. You talking about bone marrow or what?
thats exactly what I meant, sorry ^^
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In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess.
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The assault on you is the weird thing here. If we are surprised by what they eat, it's because some of us are just not used to see that.
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On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess.
you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms?
On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad.
chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions.
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I won't eat dog meat if I don't have to but If I am hungry enough, you bet that dog is going down.
My life is more important than that of a dog
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On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions.
Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat.
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On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat.
at least you're consistent
however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive?
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dog meat has been a culture foods in many asian countries sine the old days.
it just the same as people eating bugs in thailand or no beef in india.
It is a culture and you all should deal with it. no racist but "haizzzz" to white people :3
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yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy.
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On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. at least you're consistent however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive?
This argument is pretty weird, I mean in terms of cost it would be much cheaper to just have everyone surviving off millet and rice. It's not about survival of the human population it's entirely about treating animals humanely or not.
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iirc, the problem people have with the korean dog market is not that it's dogs that are being eaten, but that the dogs are specifically tortured before being killed so that they're full of hormones which are believed to make men more potent..
i don't know that there's any truth to that, just saying that's why people complain, it's not a 'look, dogs are so cute' as much as a cruelty thing..
although wiki seems to suggest that that's not the case any longer so i really don't know..
that'd be my guess why the guy got so aggresive though, another site suggested that it is actually illegal in korea, just has a blind eye turned by the authorities..
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Those dogs look pretty tasty if you ask me. As we say in France, the cuter, the tastier.
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On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy.
uh huh. because the suffering and death of thousands of human beings is better than eating animals for sustenance and pleasure. makes perfect sense to me.
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TBH I have eaten dog meat in Korea. It looked pretty much like this
I wanted to eat it because if I was in another country, I would have wanted to eat all the different kinds of foreign food in that country. A dog is an animal in the end. I won't go into the details about how it tasted and such because people won't like it.
edit: also i think the guy hit you because the global perception of eating dog meat is very bad and he thought you were press or something.
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On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat.
Can you be absolutely sure about that?
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On May 24 2011 05:19 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. at least you're consistent however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive? This argument is pretty weird, I mean in terms of cost it would be much cheaper to just have everyone surviving off millet and rice. It's not about survival of the human population it's entirely about treating animals humanely or not.
my point is whether treating the animals humanely or not is worth it. if there wasnt a market for 'humane' meat, then more food can be produced to feed more people. the thing holding that back is the demand for 'humane' meat. people wouldn't just eat millet and rice because they don't want to (and you need more nutrients than that), so unless you can convince people to want to only eat millet and rice, then your solution of having everyone eat millet and rice won't work. the same applies for humane/inhumane meat. hence why i was trying to convince hifriend that the 'inhumane' way might be more beneficial.
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On May 24 2011 05:25 StutteR wrote:TBH I have eaten dog meat in Korea. It looked pretty much like thisI wanted to eat it because if I was in another country, I would have wanted to eat all the different kinds of foreign food in that country. A dog is an animal in the end and not sentient. I won't go into the details about how it tasted and such because people won't like it. edit: also i think the guy hit you because the global perception of eating dog meat is very bad and he thought you were press or something.
Dogs, just like any other animals are sentient. -_-
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On May 24 2011 05:28 TheRhox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:25 StutteR wrote:TBH I have eaten dog meat in Korea. It looked pretty much like thisI wanted to eat it because if I was in another country, I would have wanted to eat all the different kinds of foreign food in that country. A dog is an animal in the end and not sentient. I won't go into the details about how it tasted and such because people won't like it. edit: also i think the guy hit you because the global perception of eating dog meat is very bad and he thought you were press or something. Dogs, just like any other animals are sentient. -_-
oops i guess I was using the sci-fi definition of sentient.
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Idk, look up the definition maybe >>
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On May 24 2011 05:30 TheRhox wrote:
Idk, look up the definition maybe >>
I looked up the wiki and noticed my error. Sentient means something else in scifi- "a non-human character described as "sentient" will typically have similar abilities, qualities and rights to a human being."
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On May 24 2011 05:32 StutteR wrote:I looked up the wiki and noticed my error. Sentient means something else in scifi- "a non-human character described as "sentient" will typically have similar abilities, qualities and rights to a human being."
Oh like in Star Trek: TNG with Data? I think in the sci-fi sense of the word he is described as non-sentient. But realistically he would be classified as a sentient being.
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On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy.
I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking.
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On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking.
I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it.
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On May 24 2011 05:42 TheRhox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it.
It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally.
What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc.
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On May 24 2011 05:47 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:42 TheRhox wrote:On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it. It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc.
Seals are so cute though
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Yeah, but when those Canadians go to club them they're doing it for a good reason lately. The Canadian government put strict limits on hunting them and over the years their population exploded. It's an environmental duty to keep it in check.
Within the historical context of Korea, the majority of the Korean population used to be farmers. The cow was an essential part of the farming process in Korea, and as most farmers lived in poverty during the Chosun era, cows were often the most prized possession for a family. In this context, eating a dog would make far more sense than eating a cow because the cow was worth far more.
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On May 24 2011 05:53 TheRhox wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:47 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:42 TheRhox wrote:On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it. It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc. Seals are so cute though
They also make good jackets
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On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. at least you're consistent however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive?
I don't think that's a very reasonable argument, in fact it could be applied to practically anything i.e. "do you really think x is worthwhile, when in fact those resources and that manpower could have gone into helping the starving?"
Yes, I do think supporting organic local farms is always a worthwhile choice, not only does it guarantee that the production meets some fairly basic standards in terms of ethical handling of farm animals but it also has a tremendously smaller effect on the environment than typical meat factories. Industrialized meat production isn't the solution to starvation by far; it ruins soil, takes a ridiculous amount of resources, produces little food in exchange for a fuckload of crops that would probably suffice to feed the entire world etc.
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On May 24 2011 06:01 koreasilver wrote:
[...]over the years their population exploded. It's an environmental duty to keep it in check.
Couldn't the same thing apply to humans? 
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Dog meat is sold in china, taiwan, korea, even including in japan (even though it's illegal), and virtually every corner of south east asia.
Deal with it.
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On May 24 2011 06:07 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 06:01 koreasilver wrote:
[...]over the years their population exploded. It's an environmental duty to keep it in check. Couldn't the same thing apply to humans?
That's what division of social classes does
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On May 24 2011 06:07 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 06:01 koreasilver wrote:
[...]over the years their population exploded. It's an environmental duty to keep it in check. Couldn't the same thing apply to humans?
Yeah, it's partially why I think gay people are awesome. They're like humanity's natural population control.
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Ohh hello again, Daniel. =D
As for seeing the picture of those dogs in the cage, I feel a bit saddened now. Seeing cute dogs like that and thinking that they will soon meet their end is a rather unsettling thought. I dunno, but it's just the way I was raised; I think that eating animals considered to be "household pets" is somewhat disturbing for me.
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On May 24 2011 05:47 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:42 TheRhox wrote:On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it. It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc.
Why is what I said stupid? It's just a different opinion to you. There is no lack of knowledge or intelligence, therefore it's not stupidity. I just think people who eat dogs are scum, I don't give a shit what their culture is. Indians are welcome to think of me as scum for eating cows. I think cows are entirely moronic creatures that are pretty much the definition of food machine, dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, just being all around win creatures. (I'm still not happy with cows being killed by the way, the best situation for humanity would be entirely synthetic meat, which I would happily buy.)
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Cultures are different, and I think its equally disrespectful to them if you say its wrong for them to eat what has been a part of their culture for hundreds if not thousands of years.
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On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote:
dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep,
I think that's pretty much the definition of a moronic animal.
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On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:47 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:42 TheRhox wrote:On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it. It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc. Why is what I said stupid? It's just a different opinion to you. There is no lack of knowledge or intelligence, therefore it's not stupidity. I just think people who eat dogs are scum, I don't give a shit what their culture is. Indians are welcome to think of me as scum for eating cows. I think cows are entirely moronic creatures that are pretty much the definition of food machine, dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, just being all around win creatures. (I'm still not happy with cows being killed by the way, the best situation for humanity would be entirely synthetic meat, which I would happily buy.)
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not
On May 24 2011 06:49 HwangjaeTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote:
dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, I think that's pretty much the definition of a moronic animal.
Why do you have a siege tank when I am a vulture
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Pretty interesting stuff. I do like it when people talk about the dog market in Korea, not b/c i have some sort of sadistic tendency to their dog market and want to hear about it as much as possible, but because it is a shame that nobody, at least the pro sc2/bw community comes back and says "I had dog." At least I haven't heard it. So I always wonder if they actually do have dog there, or if they are ever shown that there are dog markets. It seems kind of unfortunate though. It's as if, we, in America, hid our Hamburgers and Beef products, just so Indian people maybe wouldn't be offended by it. It is a part of our culture just as Dog meat, and dog food products are a part of theirs.
I think National Geographic did a show about it once, and I'm sure the travel channel has done something on it. And whenever it is shown, there is always a mentioning of how Koreans are hostile towards outsiders looking at their dog meat markets b/c they feel that all the foreigners want to do is take pictures and talk about how "uncivilized" korea is because they eat dog. So i feel that is probably where that one guy is coming from.
I felt like I had more in me, maybe I'll edit some more stuff into this post later.
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On May 24 2011 06:49 HwangjaeTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote:
dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, I think that's pretty much the definition of a moronic animal.
What I meant by that is that cows can't actually do anything useful. They just stand around and fail. I'll admit that they can pull plows but meh, still pretty fail. Dogs are just a series of epic services towards their human friends.
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On May 24 2011 06:33 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:47 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:42 TheRhox wrote:On May 24 2011 05:39 koreasilver wrote:On May 24 2011 05:17 sc4k wrote:
yeah I kind of have grown to understand why they do it, and accept it as a form of meat, but I still personally would be very pleased and happy if every person on the planet who enjoys and regularly eats dog meat were to suddenly die a painful and slow death. Call me crazy. I'm sure there are thousands of Indians that think the same thing about Westerners and beef consumption. The common theme here being an incredibly stupid way of thinking. I think it's a tad offensive to call it an "incredibly stupid way of thinking". It's just a different culture, and hell if it works for them so be it. It's incredibly stupid because they are judging a different culture and wishing death upon them because they engage in something that is little different from what they themselves do. Just as how it is incredibly stupid that sc4k would be "very pleased and happy" if someone who enjoys dog meat would die painfully, it would be stupid for an Indian to wish the same upon a beef consuming person because it irks them culturally. What an incredibly stupid way of thinking. Anyone that consumes beef and pork have no right to take a moral position against eating dogs. The same goes with the mindless outrage against horse meat, seals, etc. Why is what I said stupid? It's just a different opinion to you. There is no lack of knowledge or intelligence, therefore it's not stupidity. I just think people who eat dogs are scum, I don't give a shit what their culture is. Indians are welcome to think of me as scum for eating cows. I think cows are entirely moronic creatures that are pretty much the definition of food machine, dogs are man's best friend and do epic things like sacrificing themselves to save our young, smelling drugs and bombs for us, protecting our property, detecting our cancer, providing us with loving friendship, fetching things for us, herding up sheep, just being all around win creatures. (I'm still not happy with cows being killed by the way, the best situation for humanity would be entirely synthetic meat, which I would happily buy.)
On average, pigs are more intelligent than dogs, and cows are also quite intelligent. You pretty much only think that cows are "entirely moronic creatures" because you've never actually had the time to live with one for a prolonged period of time, and because you live in a culture that is almost entirely divorced from the reality of the cow and predominantly view cows as something that is simply a tool that produces milk and provides meat. Doesn't the simple fact that you engage in the same thing that some Asians do to dogs, to cows and pigs in your own culture, and yet have the audacity to point your finger at Asians and spew off in some insufferable self-righteous rage reveal you as scum?
What a ludicrous mentality.
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On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not
What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it?
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On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it?
It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog?
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On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it?
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On May 24 2011 07:18 koreasilver wrote:
On average, pigs are more intelligent than dogs, and cows are also quite intelligent. You pretty much only think that cows are "entirely moronic creatures" because you've never actually had the time to live with one for a prolonged period of time, and because you live in a culture that is almost entirely divorced from the reality of the cow and predominantly view cows as something that is simply a tool that produces milk and provides meat. Doesn't the simple fact that you engage in the same thing that some Asians do to dogs, to cows and pigs in your own culture, and yet have the audacity to point your finger at Asians and spew off in some insufferable self-righteous rage reveal you as scum?
What a ludicrous mentality.
I have NO PROBLEM with you calling me scum for eating beef.
I accept that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. I feel remorse that we eat them. I hope that they can be treated well in their lives and if I buy bacon I make sure I know where it comes from and how the pigs in the facility are treated. On the other hand, pigs don't have a record of 'friendship' we have with dogs. So I feel less is 'owed' to their species by humans. I know that might sound fluffy but what the hell do I care about your opinion of my opinion .
To be honest, cows just stand around and convert grass to meat. I also accept that they might have some intelligence and some emotional intelligence, but as long as they are raised in a humane way and treated with some degree of dignity I don't have too much of a problem with preying on them, I mean they have SO much meat on them.
Still doesn't change the fact that I think dogs are amazing and great friends for humanity and the entire species should be given a 'free pass' as far as I am concerned, and why I hate all the humans who eat dogs (giving exception to the ones who are starving).
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On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog?
I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it?
I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me.
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On May 24 2011 07:23 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? Would you think it's stupid for someone to come here and say they wish painful deaths upon those who don't eat the same food as them? Because in my eyes, it's incredibly ignorant and stupid. Example: You do/don't eat fish? I wouldn't mind if you die a painful death because you don't agree with me. If that doesn't sound stupid to you, I don't know what to say.
No, I tell you what it is, it's objectionable and obnoxious. It's not stupid. I'm venting my rage at humans being complete wankers to our best friend species. I'm not going to back down on the subject, I think eating dogs is vile! I will avoid being personally rude and insulting however, something I think some people here are incapable of doing.
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On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me.
Because you weigh a lesser specie's life over that of your own race?
Of course to me people who have committed terrible crimes against other humans deserve no rights as a member of humanity but most dog eaters are law abidding, citizens. Would you as another member of humanity wish demise upon your keen?
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I have NO PROBLEM with you calling me scum for eating beef.
Holy fuck, way too go on MISSING THE POINT over and over again. This is why I'm saying your thinking process here is incredibly stupid.
Why is what I said stupid? It's just a different opinion to you. There is no lack of knowledge or intelligence, therefore it's not stupidity. I just think people who eat dogs are scum, I don't give a shit what their culture is.
Christ.
Some people suffer from insane cognitive dissonance and inability to link things logically.
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On May 24 2011 07:39 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me. Because you weigh a lesser specie's life over that of your own? Of course to me people who have committed terrible crimes against other humans deserve no rights as a member of humanity but most dog eaters are law abidding, citizens. Would you as another member of humanity wish demise upon your keen?
No I would not wish demise upon my entire kin lol! But that is not the same as saying I don't care if a TINY TINY portion of my kin were snuffed out because they do something I deem to be vile and unacceptable. By the way, I really don't mind if you want to wish death upon ME for having such an obnoxious opinion. Be my guest. It's only a personal emotional reaction, it's not you actually causing violence towards me. You're having an intense negative reaction to my opinion, I displayed an intense negative reaction to people eating man's best friend.
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On May 24 2011 07:43 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:39 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me. Because you weigh a lesser specie's life over that of your own? Of course to me people who have committed terrible crimes against other humans deserve no rights as a member of humanity but most dog eaters are law abidding, citizens. Would you as another member of humanity wish demise upon your keen? No I would not wish demise upon my entire kin lol! But that is not the same as saying I don't care if a TINY TINY portion of my kin were snuffed out because they do something I deem to be vile and unacceptable. By the way, I really don't mind if you want to wish death upon ME for having such an obnoxious opinion. Be my guest. It's only a personal emotional reaction, it's not you actually causing violence towards me. You're having an intense negative reaction to my opinion, I displayed an intense negative reaction to people eating man's best friend.
I don't think it's negative rather I find myself unable to comprehend your logic by placing another race's, a lesser life form at that, well being over that of your own.
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On May 24 2011 07:39 koreasilver wrote:
Some people suffer from insane cognitive dissonance and inability to link things logically.
You still haven't explained why what I said is stupid? You've just thrown out a few generic insults...
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On May 24 2011 07:44 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:43 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:39 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me. Because you weigh a lesser specie's life over that of your own? Of course to me people who have committed terrible crimes against other humans deserve no rights as a member of humanity but most dog eaters are law abidding, citizens. Would you as another member of humanity wish demise upon your keen? No I would not wish demise upon my entire kin lol! But that is not the same as saying I don't care if a TINY TINY portion of my kin were snuffed out because they do something I deem to be vile and unacceptable. By the way, I really don't mind if you want to wish death upon ME for having such an obnoxious opinion. Be my guest. It's only a personal emotional reaction, it's not you actually causing violence towards me. You're having an intense negative reaction to my opinion, I displayed an intense negative reaction to people eating man's best friend. I don't think it's negative rather I find myself unable to comprehend your logic by placing another race's, a lesser life form at that, well being over that of your own.
It's not like I'm saying I want all petty humans to bow down to our canine overlords. You're making it out like I hate humans! I don't feel any ill will towards humanity. Only humans who eat dogs. And with their deaths precisely nothing about the world I experience would change other than a few pissed off and upset asians (about which I would care not much) except I would see in the news that all the people who eat dogs are dead and I would rejoice and my day would be made better. Seems pretty logical to me that I would want a situation where I am happier than the one in which I presently find myself?
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On May 24 2011 07:54 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:44 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:43 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:39 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me. Because you weigh a lesser specie's life over that of your own? Of course to me people who have committed terrible crimes against other humans deserve no rights as a member of humanity but most dog eaters are law abidding, citizens. Would you as another member of humanity wish demise upon your keen? No I would not wish demise upon my entire kin lol! But that is not the same as saying I don't care if a TINY TINY portion of my kin were snuffed out because they do something I deem to be vile and unacceptable. By the way, I really don't mind if you want to wish death upon ME for having such an obnoxious opinion. Be my guest. It's only a personal emotional reaction, it's not you actually causing violence towards me. You're having an intense negative reaction to my opinion, I displayed an intense negative reaction to people eating man's best friend. I don't think it's negative rather I find myself unable to comprehend your logic by placing another race's, a lesser life form at that, well being over that of your own. It's not like I'm saying I want all petty humans to bow down to our canine overlords. You're making it out like I hate humans! I don't feel any ill will towards humanity. Only humans who eat dogs. And with their deaths precisely nothing about the world I experience would change other than a few pissed off and upset asians (about which I would care not much) except I would see in the news that all the people who eat dogs are dead and I would rejoice and my day would be made better. Seems pretty logical to me that I would want a situation where I am happier than the one in which I presently find myself?
Well it still confuses me, as most dog eaters are law abiding hard working citizens, Mothers, Fathers, Children. Members of humanity. It would do humanity wrong to remove those members who have commited no sins to humanity itself would it not?
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On May 24 2011 08:01 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:54 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:43 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:39 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me. Because you weigh a lesser specie's life over that of your own? Of course to me people who have committed terrible crimes against other humans deserve no rights as a member of humanity but most dog eaters are law abidding, citizens. Would you as another member of humanity wish demise upon your keen? No I would not wish demise upon my entire kin lol! But that is not the same as saying I don't care if a TINY TINY portion of my kin were snuffed out because they do something I deem to be vile and unacceptable. By the way, I really don't mind if you want to wish death upon ME for having such an obnoxious opinion. Be my guest. It's only a personal emotional reaction, it's not you actually causing violence towards me. You're having an intense negative reaction to my opinion, I displayed an intense negative reaction to people eating man's best friend. I don't think it's negative rather I find myself unable to comprehend your logic by placing another race's, a lesser life form at that, well being over that of your own. It's not like I'm saying I want all petty humans to bow down to our canine overlords. You're making it out like I hate humans! I don't feel any ill will towards humanity. Only humans who eat dogs. And with their deaths precisely nothing about the world I experience would change other than a few pissed off and upset asians (about which I would care not much) except I would see in the news that all the people who eat dogs are dead and I would rejoice and my day would be made better. Seems pretty logical to me that I would want a situation where I am happier than the one in which I presently find myself? Well it still confuses me, as most dog eaters are law abiding hard working citizens, Mothers, Fathers, Children. Members of humanity. It would do humanity wrong to remove those members who have commited no sins to humanity itself would it not?
We'll have to agree to disagree. At least you're capable of voicing your opposition without being childishly insulting
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On May 24 2011 08:12 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:01 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:54 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:44 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:43 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:39 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me. Because you weigh a lesser specie's life over that of your own? Of course to me people who have committed terrible crimes against other humans deserve no rights as a member of humanity but most dog eaters are law abidding, citizens. Would you as another member of humanity wish demise upon your keen? No I would not wish demise upon my entire kin lol! But that is not the same as saying I don't care if a TINY TINY portion of my kin were snuffed out because they do something I deem to be vile and unacceptable. By the way, I really don't mind if you want to wish death upon ME for having such an obnoxious opinion. Be my guest. It's only a personal emotional reaction, it's not you actually causing violence towards me. You're having an intense negative reaction to my opinion, I displayed an intense negative reaction to people eating man's best friend. I don't think it's negative rather I find myself unable to comprehend your logic by placing another race's, a lesser life form at that, well being over that of your own. It's not like I'm saying I want all petty humans to bow down to our canine overlords. You're making it out like I hate humans! I don't feel any ill will towards humanity. Only humans who eat dogs. And with their deaths precisely nothing about the world I experience would change other than a few pissed off and upset asians (about which I would care not much) except I would see in the news that all the people who eat dogs are dead and I would rejoice and my day would be made better. Seems pretty logical to me that I would want a situation where I am happier than the one in which I presently find myself? Well it still confuses me, as most dog eaters are law abiding hard working citizens, Mothers, Fathers, Children. Members of humanity. It would do humanity wrong to remove those members who have commited no sins to humanity itself would it not? We'll have to agree to disagree. At least you're capable of voicing your opposition without being childishly insulting
I prefer to settle opinions with logic over emotion
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On May 24 2011 02:37 itsdaniel wrote:
Instantly some guy from behind kinda assaulted me, pushed and punched me. I shouted to him in german that he will see an early grave if he goes on with that
I just love this. 
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On May 24 2011 08:25 pubbanana wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 02:37 itsdaniel wrote:
Instantly some guy from behind kinda assaulted me, pushed and punched me. I shouted to him in german that he will see an early grave if he goes on with that I just love this.
The part where he was assaulted? or the part he shouted to him in German?
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On May 24 2011 08:28 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:25 pubbanana wrote:On May 24 2011 02:37 itsdaniel wrote:
Instantly some guy from behind kinda assaulted me, pushed and punched me. I shouted to him in german that he will see an early grave if he goes on with that I just love this. The part where he was assaulted? or the part he shouted to him in German?
The part where he shouted
I agree that the Korean man probably gets pestered by Western white people who give him trouble because he sells dog to eat, but that's no reason to punch someone.
I see no problem with eating dogs whatsoever.
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On May 24 2011 08:34 pubbanana wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 08:28 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 08:25 pubbanana wrote:On May 24 2011 02:37 itsdaniel wrote:
Instantly some guy from behind kinda assaulted me, pushed and punched me. I shouted to him in german that he will see an early grave if he goes on with that I just love this. The part where he was assaulted? or the part he shouted to him in German? The part where he shouted I agree that the Korean man probably gets pestered by Western white people who give him trouble because he sells dog to eat, but that's no reason to punch someone. I see no problem with eating dogs whatsoever.
Yeah i know, btw I love seafood.
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Just like eating pork/cow in some cultures. Nothing uncommon/taboo to them in their own culture where it is allowed.
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On May 24 2011 06:03 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. at least you're consistent however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive? I don't think that's a very reasonable argument, in fact it could be applied to practically anything i.e. "do you really think x is worthwhile, when in fact those resources and that manpower could have gone into helping the starving?" Yes, I do think supporting organic local farms is always a worthwhile choice, not only does it guarantee that the production meets some fairly basic standards in terms of ethical handling of farm animals but it also has a tremendously smaller effect on the environment than typical meat factories. Industrialized meat production isn't the solution to starvation by far; it ruins soil, takes a ridiculous amount of resources, produces little food in exchange for a fuckload of crops that would probably suffice to feed the entire world etc.
it's a reasonable argument because you can apply it to everything. well we've actually run into a dead-end in this discussion because we clearly have different values that aren't reconcilable. I value the extra food that can be produced while you value the ethical treatment of animals. and our arguments make sense based on what we value.
um and i'll just refrain from replying to sc4k's posts....
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On May 24 2011 07:34 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 07:26 Blasterion wrote:On May 24 2011 07:21 sc4k wrote:On May 24 2011 06:52 Blasterion wrote:
lol it's stupid because you wish death upon HUMAN BEINGS that eat dogs which are NOT HUMAN BEINGS (lesser life forms) Do I like dogs? yes. Will I eat a dog? If I am not dying from hunger, no. Do I wish death upon Other HUMANS for consuming a lesser life form? Definitely not What is stupid about wishing death upon a certain amount of humans? What is *actually* stupid about it? It's stupid to wish death upon humans for eating, lesser life forms ( I won't use the word Animal because we humans are animals). Tell me do you weigh the life of a random human being over a random dog? I'm sorry you people, I just don't see why it's stupid?? It may be morally malignant in your opinion, but where does stupidity come into it? I weigh the life of creatures individually, I don't immediately value the lives of all humans over all other species. Humans who commit terrible crimes are to me worth less than a cockroach, sue me.
It's unbelievable how you wrote eight posts arguing about definition of stupidity. "Call me morally malignant but not stupid." Haha. No, what you said does not directly have to do with intelligence but come on dude :O
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i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.
ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too.
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On May 24 2011 17:48 KingofHearts wrote:
i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.
ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too.
If I may ask a question, What makes eating dolphins and whales worse than eating fish? Why is eating fish not bullshit?
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I think people who eat meat in general have no right whatsoever to complain about others eating certain kind of animals, or fish for that matter. That's double standard in my book.
For me, as long as the animal is raised for dining purpose, it's perfectly fine to eat it.
P/S: I don't like eating dogs or cats though I've eaten dog meat twice (being a Vietnamese, you just can't help it). I stopped simply because it was not my cup of tea
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On May 24 2011 17:48 KingofHearts wrote:
i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.
ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too.
Hey, you will be surprise what human will do in order to survive. I'm sure you will find dog meat is the best meat in the world if you are starving for a few days
Btw, people seems to misunderstand alot about dog meat. Lets me clear something up.
I eat dog meat few times a year. Dog meat by no mean is the regular meat as pork or beef.
We don't eat our own dog, we won't prepare dog meat ourself. If we want to eat dog meat we'll go the restaurant.
For me, dog meat is just like any other meat.
I bet, if people look at an alive pig, then if the pig get slaughter right before them, most will not dare to it that pork. Same logic apply here. When I go out to eat dog meat, all that present to me are the dishes.
If I know the dog before hand, I would never eat them.
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Idk stuff like this only seems bad to me because the animals don't have large areas to roam around and live a semi normal life until picked for death in a non mean way like..well I actually don't know what method that would be but seeing dogs and other animals in little cages seems vile to me and shows how stupid people can be. It may be a local thing some places and I have seen worse and even in the US there are worse things sometimes going on albeit not accepted by the public and stopped when known.
The big thing in this specific case seems to be that dogs have an emotional attachment to humans in "most" cases, I have not seen loads and loads of cows or goats that act this way but I realize that any animal can become attached to people so knowing that seeing dogs in small ass cages about to be sold for food in my opinion is mean.
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On May 24 2011 20:21 RaLakedaimon wrote:
Idk stuff like this only seems bad to me because the animals don't have large areas to roam around and live a semi normal life until picked for death in a non mean way like..well I actually don't know what method that would be but seeing dogs and other animals in little cages seems vile to me and shows how stupid people can be. It may be a local thing some places and I have seen worse and even in the US there are worse things sometimes going on albeit not accepted by the public and stopped when known.
The big thing in this specific case seems to be that dogs have an emotional attachment to humans in "most" cases, I have not seen loads and loads of cows or goats that act this way but I realize that any animal can become attached to people so knowing that seeing dogs in small ass cages about to be sold for food in my opinion is mean.
Some dogs are born to be pets others born to be eaten, I don't see a problem there
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shit. just moments ago i was thinking of the weird food thread and was pondering of trying dog meat. was about to ask where do i find dog meat on that thread.
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On May 24 2011 22:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
shit. just moments ago i was thinking of the weird food thread and was pondering of trying dog meat. was about to ask where do i find dog meat on that thread.
Now you know
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Meh, I wanted to try dog when I was in China but nobody else I was travelling with did.
Now I'll never have the chance ;_;
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On May 24 2011 23:05 bonifaceviii wrote:
Meh, I wanted to try dog when I was in China but nobody else I was travelling with did.
Now I'll never have the chance ;_;
Same as the time my friends took me to eat pufferfish sashimi.
I didn't eat it then
now I never will have the chance
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What you do not know is that you have stumbled into dark, massive conspiracy of underground animal trade and consumption market that spans entire Asian continent, supported by influential mans in both legal and illegal territories. The man punching you has been surveillance tactic to measure the strength of their target, and now they have your face, your background, your balls, and you don't even know it. Now you, being chased by merciless assassination squad capable of holding its ground with most of the world's special forces, must travel throughout the rugged terrains of India, secret unsanctioned laboratory of China, dangerous capital of the only major communist nation in existence, to discover the truth no one would have ever imagined. A terrifying, ultimate betrayal unfolding in very heart of Western Civilization...
Call me 'The Informat'. Your paper-thin effort to survive against immeasurable odds start now.
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On May 25 2011 00:40 Hesmyrr wrote:
What you do not know is that you have stumbled into dark, massive conspiracy of underground animal trade and consumption market that spans entire Asian continent, supported by influential mans in both legal and illegal territories. The man punching you has been surveillance tactic to measure the strength of their target, and now they have your face, your background, your balls, and you don't even know it. Now you, being chased by merciless assassination squad capable of holding its ground with most of the world's special forces, must travel throughout the rugged terrains of India, secret unsanctioned laboratory of China, dangerous capital of the only major communist nation in existence, to discover the truth no one would have ever imagined. A terrifying, ultimate betrayal unfolding in very heart of Western Civilization...
Call me 'The Informat'. Your paper-thin effort to survive against immeasurable odds start now.
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i thought korea/china was known for dog eating
i remember watching a korean sitcom ages ago (nonstop or was it 3 guys 3 girls..) and a kid ate dog meat by accident and full went nuts about it while the parents were like "lol"
also relevant to topic: i eat kangaroos all day long
yumyum
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On May 25 2011 00:58 youngminii wrote:
i thought korea/china was known for dog eating
i remember watching a korean sitcom ages ago (nonstop or was it 3 guys 3 girls..) and a kid ate dog meat by accident and full went nuts about it while the parents were like "lol"
also relevant to topic: i eat kangaroos all day long
yumyum
MY BROTHER!!!!!!
I remember going lol while watching that, THAT WAS LIKE AGES AGO
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On May 25 2011 01:02 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 00:58 youngminii wrote:
i thought korea/china was known for dog eating
i remember watching a korean sitcom ages ago (nonstop or was it 3 guys 3 girls..) and a kid ate dog meat by accident and full went nuts about it while the parents were like "lol"
also relevant to topic: i eat kangaroos all day long
yumyum MY BROTHER!!!!!! I remember going lol while watching that, THAT WAS LIKE AGES AGO
HAHAHAHAHHAA i can't believe there's someone else that knows what i'm talking about
that episode has always stood out in my memory 'cause that's where i learnt dogs were food
GOD that was a long time ago, i must've been like 7 or something
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On May 24 2011 12:21 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 06:03 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. at least you're consistent however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive? I don't think that's a very reasonable argument, in fact it could be applied to practically anything i.e. "do you really think x is worthwhile, when in fact those resources and that manpower could have gone into helping the starving?" Yes, I do think supporting organic local farms is always a worthwhile choice, not only does it guarantee that the production meets some fairly basic standards in terms of ethical handling of farm animals but it also has a tremendously smaller effect on the environment than typical meat factories. Industrialized meat production isn't the solution to starvation by far; it ruins soil, takes a ridiculous amount of resources, produces little food in exchange for a fuckload of crops that would probably suffice to feed the entire world etc. it's a reasonable argument because you can apply it to everything. well we've actually run into a dead-end in this discussion because we clearly have different values that aren't reconcilable. I value the extra food that can be produced while you value the ethical treatment of animals. and our arguments make sense based on what we value. um and i'll just refrain from replying to sc4k's posts....
I agree, you're not making sense.
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I'm a Canadian. I want the U.S., Canada, and just the western world to thrive in general for my own future prospects. But when I read certain posts in this thread from people who are revolted by the idea of eating dog meat (while being omnivores themselves), I just really, really, really hope the western industrialized world goes to hell one day and you guys are reduced to eating grasshoppers (my grandfather did that during WW2...), maybe then dog meat will start to become somewhat appealing, ya?
But again, I shouldn't even get all worked up because these are the same people that contribute to the $50 BILLION pets industry (just in the U.S.) every year.
I just don't fucking understand why this concept is so fucking hard for some fucking people to fucking understand. Fuck.
Let me break it down for you:
People keep pigs for pets. They do not eat their pet pigs.
(Some) People who keep pigs for pets still eat pork - I'm making a (good) assumption here, and moreover I know a friend that keeps a teacup pig in her room yet still eats pork.
(Some) People who keep pigs for pets still eat pork. They eat pork processed at slaughterhouses (where the prior living conditions of the animals are horrid, not much better or worse than those caged dogs). They do NOT eat their pet pig.
Now, People keep dogs for pets. They do not eat their pet dogs.
(Some) People who keep dogs for pets still eat dog meat.
(Some) People who keep dogs for pets still eat dog meat. They eat dog meat processed at slaughterhouses and restaurants. They do NOT eat their pet dogs.
Animals are food, dogs/cats/rabbits/hamsters/rats/guinea pigs/etc included. Get. Over. It.
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On May 25 2011 02:02 Ravencruiser wrote:
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why are you so angry though? there's only like one or two posts in this entire thread that don't share your view on the matter.
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On May 25 2011 02:07 hifriend wrote:why are you so angry though? there's only like one or two posts in this entire thread that doesn't share your view on the matter.
Because my girlfriend is the same way along with my close group of friends. It's touchy issue for me and I haven't had my first cigg of the day yet (trying to quit).
With that said, I attended a family dinner last New Year's back in the motherland. There were dog meat, cat meat, deer meat and donkey meat on the table alongside your more popular meats like pork and beef. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between most of the meat especially due to the way they were prepared (very spicy and tasty), however dog meat had a distinct texture that was only slightly similar to donkey meat (more chewy) which I prefer over the regular chicken/beef/pork combo. If availability and price weren't an issue I'd probably munch on some everyday
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On May 24 2011 17:48 KingofHearts wrote:
i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.
ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too.
lolwut
starving = various foods available for your choosing
theres nothing different between eating a dog and eating a cow. people don't have "whatecer reasons" to eat dog. it's another type of meat just like chicken, pork, fish, or whatever. same with dolphins and whales. the only thing bad about this is if they harvest them to the brink of extinction, which is a totally different problem.
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On May 25 2011 02:43 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 17:48 KingofHearts wrote:
i would honestly not eat a dog even if im starving to death because i have a choice. there are better alternatives as protein source. those who eat dogs have their own reasons whatever it is. they might say its good for stamina or health or whatever they make up some bullshit to continue eating it. its the same for the japanese. there r millions of species of fish and they choose to eat dolphins and whales.
ps. at the end , its all about money .. people are trying to make a living selling dog meat. if u wanna stop it stop eating it. when the buying stops the killings can too. lolwut starving = various foods available for your choosing theres nothing different between eating a dog and eating a cow. people don't have "whatecer reasons" to eat dog. it's another type of meat just like chicken, pork, fish, or whatever. same with dolphins and whales. the only thing bad about this is if they harvest them to the brink of extinction, which is a totally different problem.
It's ok he can starve to death when we resort to dog eating
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On May 25 2011 01:31 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 12:21 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 06:03 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 05:00 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:50 hifriend wrote:On May 24 2011 04:44 ieatkids5 wrote:On May 24 2011 04:39 eXigent. wrote:
In this day and age it is easily possible to maintain a healty diet and get everything your body needs without having to eat animal meat, and I personally have chosen to capitalize on this, and refrain from taking life in order to maintain my own. I have nothing against people that do choose to eat meat, and also understand it was very much necessary for most of human history, and hold no animosity. To each their own I guess. you consider only animals to have life, but not plants or other organisms? On May 24 2011 04:28 hifriend wrote:I don't really care whether they eat dogs or cats or whatever.. But the way they keep so many of em packed in those cages makes me sad. chickens, cows, pigs, etc are in similar or worse conditions. Yeah it's a shame, and I'm careful only to buy free-range eggs and ecologically produced meat. at least you're consistent however, do you think the benefits of 'humane' meat and eggs outweigh its costs? by benefits, i mean the animals' being treated better and people who think the same way you do feel a little better. and by costs, i mean the extra resources needed to produce 'humane' food that could have gone to producing more food (the 'inhumane' way) to feed the people that need it to survive? I don't think that's a very reasonable argument, in fact it could be applied to practically anything i.e. "do you really think x is worthwhile, when in fact those resources and that manpower could have gone into helping the starving?" Yes, I do think supporting organic local farms is always a worthwhile choice, not only does it guarantee that the production meets some fairly basic standards in terms of ethical handling of farm animals but it also has a tremendously smaller effect on the environment than typical meat factories. Industrialized meat production isn't the solution to starvation by far; it ruins soil, takes a ridiculous amount of resources, produces little food in exchange for a fuckload of crops that would probably suffice to feed the entire world etc. it's a reasonable argument because you can apply it to everything. well we've actually run into a dead-end in this discussion because we clearly have different values that aren't reconcilable. I value the extra food that can be produced while you value the ethical treatment of animals. and our arguments make sense based on what we value. um and i'll just refrain from replying to sc4k's posts.... I agree, you're not making sense.
neither are you
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That's terrible though i know it happens in China as well. A lab mate of mine is from mainland and he also told me a similar story - that they have a certain breed of dog in China which they eat and it's not a strange thing over there. I really don't know what to think of this I guess one could argue that pigs are equally intelligent and they are regularly eaten in the west but I just don't know what to think. Nobody has pigs a pets.
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On May 25 2011 06:31 GreatFall wrote:
That's terrible though i know it happens in China as well. A lab mate of mine is from mainland and he also told me a similar story - that they have a certain breed of dog in China which they eat and it's not a strange thing over there. I really don't know what to think of this I guess one could argue that pigs are equally intelligent and they are regularly eaten in the west but I just don't know what to think. Nobody has pigs a pets.
Except they do. It's just not as common. Eating a dog that's meant to be eaten is no different than eating other meats. It just varies from culture to culture.
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