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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 08 2011 01:05 GMT
#1
This stupid map called me a Warcraft 3 player

This is just my blog for being depressed about learning to Brood War. I can barely beat the P computer with standard play as T(just siege expanding and then adding some factories, I'm not even good enough to control vulture harass while macroing) and I'm having a super hard time learning to split my workers effectively. I don't think it matters that much as long as I can approximately get a 2-2 split done, as far as I know, but it feels a little exasperating to know I can't even send workers to the right patches.

It's so tempting to blame my equipment. I'm using a little Logitech laptop mouse with my Asus 900HA eeePC netbook, but I think I'm just terrible at Brood War. So terrible I can barely click my guys and tell them to do stuff.

(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 08 2011 01:10 GMT
#2
If you can't beat the P ai, then it isn't your equipment that is the problem. Just macro. Don't micro at all, learn a build and learn to do it and try to keep your minerals under 4-500 at all times if you can.
RIP Aaliyah
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
April 08 2011 01:13 GMT
#3
To be honest, I always found it pretty hard to beat the computer's dirty zealot rush thing with a siege expand. But I'm bad as well so maybe that did it. ^^
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 08 2011 01:13 GMT
#4
Well, I can beat the P AI, but it's basically only if I abuse the fact that I KNOW it's going to run all its shit into my tanks if i just make nothing but tanks. I can't make vultures and harass with them or anything like that.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 08 2011 01:14 GMT
#5
youll be fine. Just stick at it and it will be worth the effort.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 01:15:10
April 08 2011 01:14 GMT
#6
The P computer just builds zealots right? Going any sort of standard TvP opening would have you microing your few vultures or tanks against like 12 zealots. Just try a 2 rax marine medic build

Actually what I reccomend is a 2 factory vulture opening and then use patrol micro to feel pro
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 01:19:24
April 08 2011 01:17 GMT
#7
Is there an easy way to start a game alone? I just want to practice my stupid build without the computer bugging me with its bullshit.

I just wanna do my build, not forget depots, and move my guys around.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 08 2011 01:20 GMT
#8
On April 08 2011 10:17 Turgid wrote:
Is there an easy way to start a game alone? I just want to practice my stupid build without the computer bugging me with its bullshit.

I just wanna do my build, not forget depots, and move my guys around.

Go online, host a 1v1 game with you and a computer. Click start game, and during the 5 second countdown change the computer slot to "Open." The game will start without a computer, a thing will pop up after a second saying "The match ended in a draw." Just click continue and then you're good to go.

This won't work in single player, btw.
. . . nevermore
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 08 2011 01:28 GMT
#9
Thank you! I appreciate the help.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 08 2011 01:29 GMT
#10
Well the P computer is pretty hard to beat if you're not prepared for 10 zealots, especially when you're expoing and going siege tanks.
I still lose to it from time to time...

The way I split is just to select them individually... But worker split isn't that big of a deal.
Macro > micro > split
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 08 2011 01:43 GMT
#11
Protoss computers cut a whole bunch of workers to get a bunch of zealots fast. Its all about vulture micro!

//and its definitely not your equipment T____T
Jaedong :3
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
April 08 2011 01:53 GMT
#12
Shift click was always the easiest way to split for me. Also I wouldn't worry too much about the computer they do ridiculous things haha. Host some games online and try to practice there, don't worry about losses that's the most important thing. It's a game, and no one is judging you. Play for you and you alone
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 08 2011 01:57 GMT
#13
Protoss AI does one of 2 builds: Mass zealots into late goons (think 3-gate on 1 base) and DT rush. Just send in an scv to figure out which one it is.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 08 2011 01:58 GMT
#14
On April 08 2011 10:57 Gummy wrote:
Protoss AI does one of 2 builds: Mass zealots into late goons (think 3-gate on 1 base) and DT rush. Just send in an scv to figure out which one it is.


They also cannon expand.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
April 08 2011 02:03 GMT
#15
On April 08 2011 10:05 Turgid wrote:
This stupid map called me a Warcraft 3 player

This is just my blog for being depressed about learning to Brood War. I can barely beat the P computer with standard play as T(just siege expanding and then adding some factories, I'm not even good enough to control vulture harass while macroing) and I'm having a super hard time learning to split my workers effectively. I don't think it matters that much as long as I can approximately get a 2-2 split done, as far as I know, but it feels a little exasperating to know I can't even send workers to the right patches.

It's so tempting to blame my equipment. I'm using a little Logitech laptop mouse with my Asus 900HA eeePC netbook, but I think I'm just terrible at Brood War. So terrible I can barely click my guys and tell them to do stuff.
Beating P computer as T is simple, you just have to wall-in (zealot tight at choke), get siege tanks (+ebay in case it goes DT) then survive the first wave, then push out and you win. If the computer goes FFE, it's even easier.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
April 08 2011 02:09 GMT
#16
If you are T, P ai rushes can be defeated by simple bunkering .. or tech to 2 fact vultures and practice your macro from there.
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Troxior
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States168 Posts
April 08 2011 02:54 GMT
#17
You can help train with me, I have the basics kind of down and just now was able to beat the computer you should add me on iCCup Troxior and talk to me on IRC like the things said here are good but you just need to go back to the extreme basics really.
Frotoss fan!
SaiyAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States47 Posts
April 08 2011 04:42 GMT
#18
Stick to checkers, bud.
"When I wanna get pumped up, I just think about the American blood that's flowing through my veins, man" -Liquid'Tyler
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 04:51:51
April 08 2011 04:50 GMT
#19
I always open 2 fact mines vs P comps lol

As far as splitting goes try it on slower speeds to practice the muscle memory. Increase speed one by one till it's consistent and easy to do. Just turn on a stream or something and have windowed BW running. Do it a couple hundred times and you'll never need to practice it again.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#20
On April 08 2011 10:58 mizU wrote:
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On April 08 2011 10:57 Gummy wrote:
Protoss AI does one of 2 builds: Mass zealots into late goons (think 3-gate on 1 base) and DT rush. Just send in an scv to figure out which one it is.


They also cannon expand.

Oh yeah. But that's easy as fuck to beat.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
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