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Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 20:36:02
March 18 2011 18:32 GMT
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New Training House For Professional Forum Posters


A growing trend in the professional Starcraft 2 world is for groups of professional gamers to get a house or apartment to live in and practice SC2 together. Recently, Fnatic and Root announced they have teamed up to establish a house in Florida, FXO has plans for a house in Malaysia, and there seems to be something brewing in Sweden with TLO and a few other European pros. This is in addition to EG's house in “Korea, wait no, California, er, Arizona, but maybe not at all, we really have no fucking clue”. Pro-gaming houses are already a standard for top Korean teams, so it is no surprise that top non-Korean teams are creating pro-gaming houses in order to bridge the skill gap between Koreans and non-Koreans. A pro-gaming house with multiple high caliber players living and training together creates an atmosphere where they can discuss strategy regularly and openly and improve as players.

Now it appears that this concept has spread outside of the realm of professional gamers. evolo and gosupeon, members of the TeamLiquid.net community, have announced the establishment of a professional forum poster house.

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The new pro forum poster house (little girl not included)


“We saw all these professional SC2 players forming houses to improve their SC2 skills,” said evolo, “so we figured, 'why not form a house for professional forum posters to improve our posting skills?' We discuss posting theory, help each other make new posts, and just live in an environment focused on making good, quality posts on TeamLiquid.net.” In addition, the residents of the training house will go over past posts and look at good posts by other posters in order to analyze and mimic their posting style.

When asked about their schedule in the new house, gosupeon had this response:

      “Our schedule is similar to that of a pro-gamer. We get up, we have a quick breakfast and put in a good 4 hours of posting. Then, we break for lunch and go over our posts for the day and help each other improve. After lunch, we do our daily ranking posts for about 4 hours to gauge where we stand in the house and see who needs some additional help with their posts. Lastly, we have dinner and are free to do whatever until bedtime. Some people actually play and watch Starcraft 2!”

One of the hopes for the training house is that the house will help bridge the gap between the Korean and foreign posters . The Koreans are widely considered to be the best posters in the world and regularly put in 12 hours of posting every day on PlayXP.com. Many foreign posters have even gone to Korea to get a taste of that kind of environment and to improve their skills. Generally, these posters greatly improve, but the demanding schedule leaves little time for other activities and many posters are returning home in hopes of being a part of the growing posting scene in the west.

“The Korean posting scene is amazing,” current resident dnomaiD.puCCi said, “but we feel that Starcraft 2 posting doesn't require as much practice time due to the new mechanics. Overall, we try to put in about 8 hours of posting, some do more, some do less. We want to have a relaxed atmosphere that isn't too demanding.”

“The training is paying off already,” said motbok, a top poster from the training house, “just check any of the Live Report threads on TeamLiquid.net. All of the good, quality posting in those threads are a direct result of the excellent training we are receiving here.”



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rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 18 2011 18:38 GMT
#2
the picture made it this time haha. Good stuff
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GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 18:38:53
March 18 2011 18:38 GMT
#3
This one didn't do it for me. Sorry. Not your best one.
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 18 2011 18:39 GMT
#4
I've got some pretty sick racecar driver uniforms for my posting team, stay tuned for the unveiling.
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Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
March 18 2011 18:42 GMT
#5
Ahahhahaha, that was so funny !

When will be the qualifications for the GPL ? (Global Poster League)

I'm so rooting for the liquid guys, specially RiotBot, he has sick posting macro and he's as fast as koreans 250 - 350 LPM (Letters / Minutes)

Hope we can see a bunch of foreigners in Ro64 !

Liquid FIGHTING !
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
March 18 2011 18:44 GMT
#6
On March 19 2011 03:38 GenoZStriker wrote:
This one didn't do it for me. Sorry. Not your best one.

Haha, people say this about every single one, except they're fantastic.

Great job, laughed super hard. xD!
you are perfect porcelain.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 18 2011 18:47 GMT
#7
Hahah oh god, it's so true.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 18 2011 18:48 GMT
#8
I feel that with dedicated training, we can bring pSports to the West within a few years.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
March 18 2011 18:50 GMT
#9
I'd like to start the initiative to sponsor TorteDeLini for the pfp house. Is anyone else interested? I feel that with rigorous training, we can help bring his fp skill from the amateur to the pro level.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
March 18 2011 18:51 GMT
#10
I loved that jab at LR threads at the end. Keep up with the good posting.
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 18 2011 18:53 GMT
#11
I thought this was great
Jaedong :3
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
March 18 2011 19:01 GMT
#12
On March 19 2011 03:50 Antoine wrote:
I'd like to start the initiative to sponsor TorteDeLini for the pfp house. Is anyone else interested? I feel that with rigorous training, we can help bring his fp skill from the amateur to the pro level.

he was who i first thought of as well haha <3s though. i think hes banned right now though.
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 18 2011 19:02 GMT
#13
i want to post in the internal posting ladder. i feel that if i hone my insults and puns, i can really go far.
:O
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 18 2011 19:03 GMT
#14
So...how much extra to have the girl included?

JK
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
March 18 2011 19:09 GMT
#15
hahaha i am not sure why but this is my fav IA yet.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
March 18 2011 19:15 GMT
#16
This idea seems really stupid. It makes sense for pro's to live together in a house since there is a financial incentive for them to do well. To have people live together in a house to improve their abilities in something that yields 0 money isn't logical. Also, how are they gonna measure their ranking posts? It's not like a game of sc2 where the winner is clear... there's no objective way to determine who is doing a better or worse job... it's going to be highly subjective.

I really don't see this working out.
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 18 2011 19:19 GMT
#17
On March 19 2011 04:15 micronesia wrote:
This idea seems really stupid. It makes sense for pro's to live together in a house since there is a financial incentive for them to do well. To have people live together in a house to improve their abilities in something that yields 0 money isn't logical. Also, how are they gonna measure their ranking posts? It's not like a game of sc2 where the winner is clear... there's no objective way to determine who is doing a better or worse job... it's going to be highly subjective.

I really don't see this working out.

On the contrary. With the introduction of postchart, we now have graphs on the objective performance of posters in the context of an individual post. We're finding more and more that we can find the best posters based on factors such as WPM; you cannot be considered a competitive poster until you have at least 120WPM.

Most threads have a clear winner, and it is easy to support this style of living with the help of the pro team's sponsors, Wikipedia, Godwin of Godwin's Law fame, and Razer's keyboard division.
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GriMeR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States148 Posts
March 18 2011 19:21 GMT
#18
winning!
"Now let's have coffee and discuss the bunker build time!" "I'm still kinda on the fence about it Dustin, we can't make changes like these on a whim" "Agreed, agreed ... what do you think David?" "Hmmm what? ... I mean, o yeah, Terran definitely seems
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
March 18 2011 19:22 GMT
#19
On March 19 2011 04:01 rolfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 03:50 Antoine wrote:
I'd like to start the initiative to sponsor TorteDeLini for the pfp house. Is anyone else interested? I feel that with rigorous training, we can help bring his fp skill from the amateur to the pro level.

he was who i first thought of as well haha <3s though. i think hes banned right now though.

Haha, same here! He'd be Code S for posting. His blog about his ban was brilliant. True quality posting with a focus on the macro aspects of a long post.

Also, definitely chuckled out loud when I read the EG house thing. So true.

I love how these posts get replies where I can't tell if the people are still missing the sarcasm or are being sarcastic themselves. XD
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44324 Posts
March 18 2011 19:25 GMT
#20
Vey very nice

I always enjoy reading the IA <3
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 19:52:15
March 18 2011 19:49 GMT
#21
On March 19 2011 03:32 Hoju wrote:

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The new pro forum poster house (little girl not included)

This is in addition to EG's house in “Korea, wait no, California, er, Arizona, but maybe not at all, we really have no fucking clue”.



Trolololol. :D
Soooo good, made mi laugh in real life.

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Use

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to center the img and other stuff.
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
March 18 2011 20:01 GMT
#22
This is exciting, but all the posting commentators really suck and they tend to not sync their replays very well.

- Just trying to brush up my posting game in preparation
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zotok
Profile Joined October 2010
United States66 Posts
March 18 2011 20:04 GMT
#23
was the pink house designed by Nada

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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 18 2011 20:14 GMT
#24
I think this is a good time to announce that vGl-CoW, BroOd and I are starting up a coaching site, GosuPosting. We offer posting lessons starting at $100 per hour.
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SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
March 18 2011 20:35 GMT
#25
Hahahhaha! Man Ive missed these... ..
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KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
March 18 2011 20:44 GMT
#26
This is a step in the right direction, the problem is just like in SC2 where you can just cheese your way high on the ladder, for posting you can make many low-quality posts to get your poster icon improved from SCV to Battlecruiser. Or worse, people can use hacks to automatically generate posts, or multiple people could smurf on the same account to increase posts.

We need a LAN based sub-forum, where you have to be physically on site to post. Then we'll see who the true quality posters are. No one's going to tolerate bad posts at a lan, especially when iNcontroL is right there to punch you in the face for being an idiot.

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EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
March 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#27
On March 19 2011 05:14 SonuvBob wrote:
I think this is a good time to announce that vGl-CoW, BroOd and I are starting up a coaching site, GosuPosting. We offer posting lessons starting at $100 per hour.


Do you give lessons to gold level posters?
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 18 2011 21:12 GMT
#28
I'm a mid-high Corsair level poster, but I've been posting among Dark Templar posters for a while now. Does anyone know how and when I can be promoted? I post better than them over 50% of the time. I think it might be because I only post a few posts a day, but if I posted more, I'd definitely be at least low High Templar rank.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
March 18 2011 21:19 GMT
#29
On March 19 2011 03:48 motbob wrote:
I feel that with dedicated training, we can bring pSports to the West within a few years.



On March 19 2011 05:14 SonuvBob wrote:
I think this is a good time to announce that vGl-CoW, BroOd and I are starting up a coaching site, GosuPosting. We offer posting lessons starting at $100 per hour.



oh man hahahaha
it's my first day
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 18 2011 21:42 GMT
#30
On March 19 2011 05:14 SonuvBob wrote:
I think this is a good time to announce that vGl-CoW, BroOd and I are starting up a coaching site, GosuPosting. We offer posting lessons starting at $100 per hour.

Who do make your payment out to?
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#31
On March 19 2011 06:12 KevinIX wrote:
I'm a mid-high Corsair level poster, but I've been posting among Dark Templar posters for a while now. Does anyone know how and when I can be promoted? I post better than them over 50% of the time. I think it might be because I only post a few posts a day, but if I posted more, I'd definitely be at least low High Templar rank.

Posting icons don't mean anything. I've met Dragoons who are EASILY as good as Carriers. Plus, when TL labels you a Dragoon it's like it's calling you dumb. Very condescending.
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 18 2011 22:08 GMT
#32
On March 19 2011 05:14 SonuvBob wrote:
I think this is a good time to announce that vGl-CoW, BroOd and I are starting up a coaching site, GosuPosting. We offer posting lessons starting at $100 per hour.


I would be willing to engage in these lessons from some of the Top Posters in the World™.
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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 22:24:23
March 18 2011 22:20 GMT
#33
We need featured streams of posters, maybe somebody can set up a coaching house, or even convince gosu coaching to branch out into this quickly growing phenomenon!
I've never been a core poster, but with my blogs letting me increase my writing skill, I may branch out from Single player, and try my hand at creating more threads in the cutthroat SC2 general or strategy forums...

Edit:
Ahh, see my forum micro has already failed me, sonuvbob has already announced a coaching site!
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
March 18 2011 22:26 GMT
#34
On March 19 2011 03:38 GenoZStriker wrote:
This one didn't do it for me. Sorry. Not your best one.


i strongly differ, i think it's the best IA in a while.

very clean, subtle, not overtly funny, but very humorous. and i just love the iron fist in velvet glove feel it's got, sharp irony

good work
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
March 18 2011 23:13 GMT
#35
On March 19 2011 05:14 SonuvBob wrote:
I think this is a good time to announce that vGl-CoW, BroOd and I are starting up a coaching site, GosuPosting. We offer posting lessons starting at $100 per hour.


I dont even care if I get banned for this but I just wanted to let the community know that GosuPosting is a big scam, my friend bought a lessons from them, they requested payment right away, than said it would be months before the lessons, and now are completely ignoring his emails. He's had to open a paypal dispute to attempt to get his money back, I would avoid these guys and their insidious posts at all costs
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 18 2011 23:46 GMT
#36
On March 19 2011 08:13 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 05:14 SonuvBob wrote:
I think this is a good time to announce that vGl-CoW, BroOd and I are starting up a coaching site, GosuPosting. We offer posting lessons starting at $100 per hour.


I dont even care if I get banned for this but I just wanted to let the community know that GosuPosting is a big scam, my friend bought a lessons from them, they requested payment right away, than said it would be months before the lessons, and now are completely ignoring his emails. He's had to open a paypal dispute to attempt to get his money back, I would avoid these guys and their insidious posts at all costs


lol I see what you did there....
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Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 23:52:16
March 18 2011 23:51 GMT
#37
I'd like there to be a pSports league, say, called North American Posting League (NAPL) but without professional posters such as Sonuvabob, vGl-CoW, and BroOd. I just relate better to posters near my level. I say this not from the perspective as a poster but a fan and spectator.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
March 19 2011 00:11 GMT
#38
I've been posting at Reaver level on the teamliquid website, but I think if you look at my overall post rate and extrapolate it from there you can see I'm easily a Carrier-level poster.
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
March 19 2011 03:06 GMT
#39
On March 19 2011 09:11 Dfgj wrote:
I've been posting at Reaver level on the teamliquid website, but I think if you look at my overall post rate and extrapolate it from there you can see I'm easily a Carrier-level poster.

Oh no. All of this stuff is going to become a mini-TL meme, isn't it (and by that I mean Torte is going to use it)?

WHAT HAVE YOU CREATED, HOJU!? We're all doomed!
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Uraeus
Profile Joined February 2008
France1378 Posts
March 23 2011 22:19 GMT
#40
This is a step in the right direction.

May I suggest the pro posters to hire Moltke and Charlie Murphy as in-house coaches? As former top posters, they may not have the proper mechanics anymore, but they can still definitely give good insight.
And it is always better to have a coach to determine who is going to practice posting in which section, and dertermine the line-ups for the posting tourneys.

Also, I feel pretty frustrated by the overall posting possibilities for my race, Zerg.
Zergs have less units, spells, and top players to whine talk about.
I feel Terran and especially Protoss have a much easier time making large amount of varied posts and hard counter Zerg opinions. So at an equivalent skill level, T and P posters will often be ranked significantly higher than Zerg posters.
Of course, improving my posting mechanics would help, but I hope TL is going to take some action to balance the forum.

PS :
“just check any of the Live Report threads on TeamLiquid.net. All of the good, quality posting in those threads are a direct result of the excellent training we are receiving here.”
So true! :D This one actually made me laugh out loud.
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