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eviltomahawk
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Rotodyne
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Ushio
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
studying does nothing for you since you'll probably not study very hard and it won't really help you for your classes and it sounds very irresponsible that you managed to miss your 3rd physics lab when i'm guessing you're only halfway through the semester | ||
micronesia
United States24612 Posts
I do however suggest you comment on what you are going to do in the future to prevent this type of problem from happening again. Whether you explain your thoughts to us or just reflect privately... it needs to be done. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On March 03 2011 12:17 awu25 wrote: get a job studying does nothing for you since you'll probably not study very hard and it won't really help you for your classes and it sounds very irresponsible that you managed to miss your 3rd physics lab when i'm guessing you're only halfway through the semester Actually, we're on the quarter system, and I think it was the second to last lab that I missed. I basically got C-'s in two classes during the first quarter, and that put me on probation since two grades below C result in a probation, even if they are C-. | ||
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
i would just starting looking for a job. Get some money, and try to find some motivation to get you back in. | ||
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Joementum
787 Posts
On March 03 2011 12:24 eviltomahawk wrote: Actually, we're on the quarter system, and I think it was the second to last lab that I missed. I basically got C-'s in two classes during the first quarter, and that put me on probation since two grades below C result in a probation, even if they are C-. Two C-'s = probation? Damn. I had to fail 3 classes to be put on probation. I wasn't trying to fail or anything, but it happened. Lack of motivation/hate for my major was the cause. My new major/wanting to GTFO of academic probation is my motivation right now. If you do fail, get a full time job and do some studying at the same time. | ||
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redoxx
United States333 Posts
Make sure that you are interested in the classes you're taking too. If you hate physics, why bother? do biology or sociology or something. | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
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LosingID8
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Laerties
United States361 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On March 03 2011 13:31 Laerties wrote: Its slightly alarming that instead of freaking out you are just wondering how to spend your time if it turns out you fucked up. Don't you have any regret? It's pretty ridiculous that you were able to keep all those emotions out of your OP if you felt them at all. I'm generally not a very emotional writer; my style is usually analytical and rather dry. However, I am freaking out quite a bit. I would've been fine this quarter had I not missed that one damn lab. The bulk of my regret hinges on that one mistake that I had made today, and I am nothing short of freaking out about my future. I guess I traversed to the fifth stage of grief, acceptance, quite quickly. | ||
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PUPATREE
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Edit: If I were in your situation and I didn't act until now, I'd be pretty desperate for a way to cover myself. I'd even consider like, getting myself stabbed, cleaning myself up, waiting a few hours (blood clot, body stabilize so wound won't be fresh), and going to a hospital. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
Everyone struggles at college man, I know I did first semester. When all my friends were talking about their shiny 4.0s and 3.8s, I had to remain quiet about my atrocious(compared to theirs) GPA. I know you're probably not used to doing bad in school, but just know that you're not alone. Just don't let this overwhelm you. You need to take a step back and assess your next move. Talk to your professor, beg for a makeup to the lab. Set a goal for yourself, and tell your friends so that they can check up on you. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27130 Posts
On March 03 2011 13:40 eviltomahawk wrote: I'm generally not a very emotional writer; my style is usually analytical and rather dry. However, I am freaking out quite a bit. I would've been fine this quarter had I not missed that one damn lab. The bulk of my regret hinges on that one mistake that I had made today, and I am nothing short of freaking out about my future. No offense, but it wasn't the one mistake you made today. What you did today was the last in a long series of mistakes that began when you were put on probation, and continued when you missed the first and second lab (of only 8!). To blame your current predicament on your mistake today is to not take responsibility for the long series of actions that made today's mistake a problem. Without addressing this, you cannot hope to change in the future. I guess that is my answer on what you should do with your upcoming free time. | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
It does seem like there are more significant issues though. Really, anything to get motivation is important. For me, simply forcing myself to get up and work out really early in the morning completely changed my academics + how I approached classes...the self-discipline more than anything. my amateur internal Oprah tells me a good sharp change in daily routine is what you would benefit from I don't know your particular school, but I don't think you'll get dismissed. My guess is they'll give you another quarter (guessing a UC?) and a meeting with an academic adviser group of sorts. usually takes repeated failing of classes to get kicked out, and that has to be spread over a few quarters. | ||
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
On March 03 2011 13:51 Manifesto7 wrote: No offense, but it wasn't the one mistake you made today. What you did today was the last in a long series of mistakes that began when you were put on probation, and continued when you missed the first and second lab (of only 8!). To blame your current predicament on your mistake today is to not take responsibility for the long series of actions that made today's mistake a problem. Without addressing this, you cannot hope to change in the future. I guess that is my answer on what you should do with your upcoming free time. I agree with Manifesto. Your mistake wasn't missing this class but missing the first two. You should really take advantage of your education and the opportunities it brings. What you need to do is not decide whether you study up or get a job, but change your priorities.Normally when opportunities arise where I can drop an exam or lab, I tend to drop the last, not the first. | ||
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MetalMarine
United States1559 Posts
On March 03 2011 12:18 micronesia wrote: I'm not really sure how to advise you on what you should do for a year should you be off from college for the reason you stated (especially without more details). I do however suggest you comment on what you are going to do in the future to prevent this type of problem from happening again. Whether you explain your thoughts to us or just reflect privately... it needs to be done. Listen to this man. Good advice | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On March 03 2011 13:51 Manifesto7 wrote: No offense, but it wasn't the one mistake you made today. What you did today was the last in a long series of mistakes that began when you were put on probation, and continued when you missed the first and second lab (of only 8!). To blame your current predicament on your mistake today is to not take responsibility for the long series of actions that made today's mistake a problem. Without addressing this, you cannot hope to change in the future. I guess that is my answer on what you should do with your upcoming free time. Motivation is not such an easy thing to find sometimes. Granted, there's no one to blame but himself and he probably knows it best, but I can greatly sympathize with him. I'm in my 6th year in university and I've had my fair share of trouble as well because of motivation. I spent 3 years in pharmacy school and dropped out recently because of my bad grades (motivation issues when it came to studying for big exams). I tried really hard to get myself to study and even prepared schedules for myself to do well, but in the end I was literally falling asleep in my books instead of learning. I think the OP might be in a similar situation where he's having trouble motivating himself for something he may or may not like (believe it or not, I love pharmacy and I was actually pretty good @ work and in practice labs but still couldn't get myself to learn the things I had to so I called it quits early before I inevitably became "dangerous" because of my lack of knowledge). Going back to finish the last year of my biochemistry bachelor in september, a program where I had no issue finding motivation to study for big exams and already I'm getting excited about going back to research. Yet if I had to say, I like pharmacy and research pretty evenly despite the difference in motivation to learn each subject. My point being, even if you know exactly what you need to do to achieve success and it sounds easy, it's a different story actually doing it when you lose your motivation. On March 03 2011 13:31 Laerties wrote: Its slightly alarming that instead of freaking out you are just wondering how to spend your time if it turns out you fucked up. Don't you have any regret? It's pretty ridiculous that you were able to keep all those emotions out of your OP if you felt them at all. I know it wasn't a question directed to me but I didn't freak out at all when I realized my grades were so bad I had wasted 3 years of my life going no where. It sucks but moping about it will not do you any good. Everyone has their own way of dealing with disappointment. I prefer to move on immediately and focus on other things. If I didn't, then I WOULD freak out and I don't think that would help me. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
Also to clarify, out of the previous 2 labs that I missed, one of them was due to a snow day shutting down the school on the day of the lab, so I wasn't sure if I had to make up that lab or not. The other was just due to negligence. Nevertheless, I do agree that I fucked up too much by missing these labs so carelessly. I've simply been too careless with college. High school was tough and competitive, and having relatively tough parents helped me pull through it quite decently. However, I've been really taking too many liberties with the greater number of freedoms in college, and it's really costing me. I wish I had gotten my shit together much earlier.... Hopefully, my pleas to the lab instructor will not fall on deaf ears. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27130 Posts
On March 03 2011 14:39 Kurr wrote: Motivation is not such an easy thing to find sometimes. Granted, there's no one to blame but himself and he probably knows it best, but I can greatly sympathize with him. I'm in my 6th year in university and I've had my fair share of trouble as well because of motivation. I spent 3 years in pharmacy school and dropped out recently because of my bad grades (motivation issues when it came to studying for big exams). I tried really hard to get myself to study and even prepared schedules for myself to do well, but in the end I was literally falling asleep in my books instead of learning. I wasn't speaking so much about motivation as being personally accountable. From his post where he says that the "bulk of his regret" is sleeping in today, it tells me that he doesn't clearly see the result of all his actions. My suggestion is that he reflect on that in order to make real change. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
for the snow day one, i hope you at least emailed someone to find out if you had to make up that day if the information wasn't readily available, i guess you could make a case that missing it wasn't your fault | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On March 03 2011 14:58 Manifesto7 wrote: I wasn't speaking so much about motivation as being personally accountable. From his post where he says that the "bulk of his regret" is sleeping in today, it tells me that he doesn't clearly see the result of all his actions. My suggestion is that he reflect on that in order to make real change. I think I made a mistake by saying "bulk of my regrets." Indeed, at the moment I was most concerned about the fact that I slept in, especially since I was trying to find a fix for my immediate problem of trying to scrape out a make-up lab with the professor. I do ponder my fuck-ups during first quarter quite a bit, especially after realizing how deep a hole I had dug for myself upon getting notified about my probation. I hoped to change this quarter, but alas I had grown too complacent and allowed myself to make too many mistakes. Every day I wake up hoping to climb out of this deep hole, but with this major slip up, I realize that my mentality has not improved enough. I really wish I had a time machine right now. | ||
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nA.Inky
United States794 Posts
Anyhow, getting to my personal opinions: money isn't everything. So often, people think money is a means of attaining freedom. But the widespread addiction to money is the opposite of freedom, and it is far easier to become liberated by learning to need and want less. My feeling is that school should be for those who are driven to learn in an academic environment (many can learn better on their own, and for far less money). Most people in college really don't belong there, and they are only there because they want upward mobility. It's sad, because really college has very little to do with the practical skills involved in most jobs, but that's the way it is. Anyway, perhaps it's the case that if you really cared about academics, you would be attending your classes and labs, and getting better academic results. The fact that you are struggling is probably a sign that you aren't really into what you are doing. So why not consider what it is that you DO want to do, and just go do that? Don't let family and friends and society as a whole dictate what you should do. YOU are the one that has to live your life, so make choices that suit you. Not everyone is destined to be a college graduate. Some of the smartest, most decent folks you can meet have not graduated college. Maybe some of these folks make less money than they would if they had graduated college. Then again, some of the happiest, most balanced people I know have very little money. So if you quit college, you may feel guilty because you don't know what it is that drives you, or what you want to do. That's ok. That would be something you'd have in common with a LOT of people. So why not just relax and explore and try things out? And also, why not slack a little bit? Our society puts so much emphasis on work and achievement, but in the long run, money is just money, and fame is fleeting. In the long run, no one is remembered. Why not slow down and enjoy the simple things? I went to college and graduated, and frankly, in many ways, I wish I had not. The one thing I really got out of college is a shallow sort of confidence; if I hadn't gone, I might feel intimidated by those who had degrees, and feel I had cheated myself or that I was lacking something important. Now I know fully well that if I had never gone to college, it would be perfectly alright, and I'd be a perfectly respectable, decent person anyway. But for that silly sort of confidence, I am now in debt to the tune of 17000 USD. I'm not the sort of person that wants a lot of money, and certainly not the sort of stress and BS that goes with earning a lot of money. I'm happy - not just content, but HAPPY - living on about 6 or 7 thousand USD a year. I'll likely never pay my debt down with the kinds of low stress, low pay jobs I am willing to work (and I purposely spend much time unemployed so that I can enjoy life), so it follows me around. If you are motivated in college, and enjoy it, then I say more power to you. IT sounds like you are not, so I encourage you to cut your losses and simply live your life without a sense of pressure or obligation. In this way, perhaps with time you'll find something worth your efforts. Nick / InkMeister | ||
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