NASL and Teams: What's the Deal? - Page 6

You seriously want members of a team to compete AGAINST each other for the opportunity to play? That might work for some teams with a larger player pool, but some teams try to have their entire "team" aspect built on comaraderie, not competition.

ust to point out, according to the NASL system, only Idra or Jinro would have played in the GSL, not both. One would have been excluded from the tournament in order to prevent a team kill.

On February 24 2011 07:35 Daigomi wrote:

Just to point out, according to the NASL system, only Idra or Jinro would have played in the GSL, not both. One would have been excluded from the tournament in order to prevent a team kill.

On February 24 2011 07:37 Motion wrote:
Like i said, it's not fair right now, but look neutral on it. In future there are 5 Players from a team in the 50 Players over all. So you should have 10 Teams with each 5 Players right ?

NO! there aren't 10 Teams with 5 Starplayers. Instead of having 8 Players from "Star-Team Y" and 7 Players from "Star-Team X" we have more diversity, more players from smaller teams, this is much more fair!

It's more fair because you don't have to be like TL, even root has some sponsor issues...
If we don't make this rule, then there will be only some Clans with large financial background and YOU as a new Player without the Big Star Team will have no chance to compete!

On February 24 2011 07:32 Zim23 wrote:
For one, I think team kill matches suck.

On February 24 2011 07:39 Xeris wrote:


Except for the fact that they're not on the same team?

On February 24 2011 07:41 Mairu wrote:

You're getting team kills even with this rule, the team kill is just happening before the matches occur. You're also limiting the any sort of acquisitions teams like TL, EG, or even root might bother with due to NASL limiting the amount of players they can send to NASL. That's killing the team members before they even have a chance to play!

I mean, even looking at the GSL in Korea, which has a greater amount of teams and a greater amount of players on legitimately sponsored teams you can see it doesn't seem to make much sense.

In just Code S, oGs has 8 players. Prime has 5. If you were to expand it to include Code A, ST, oGs, IM, Prime, ZeNEX, and TSL all are going to have more than five players on their teams. This kind of rule wouldn't work in Korea, where the environment for esports is bigger, the amount of sponsored teams is bigger, and the player skill is on average higher. How is it going to work in NA/EU? What would happen if Gretech told the Korean teams that they'd have to send only five players? It'd be a disaster.

On February 24 2011 07:39 Xeris wrote:


Except for the fact that they're not on the same team?

On February 24 2011 07:32 Zim23 wrote:
Second, I think the real drama here is who the teams will nominate to participate in the NASL. This motivates members of teams to practice and play better so their team is confident in sending them out. Maybe there will be in-team battles to see who makes it. I want to see the progress of inner-team ladders, where the top 5 are going into the NASL. That is way better drama than having a "team kill" round which honestly sounds terrible to me. On top of that, teams basically running the team kill scenarios on their own in order to choose the 5 players they're sending serves the same purpose, and provides far better drama. I can't wait to see the starting line up of teams, that's part of the story to me.

On February 24 2011 07:32 Zim23 wrote:
Just look at when the GSL released the groups for season 4, TL was so pissed when we saw two foreigners in the same group, because no one wants to see that shit. We want our favorite team to make it far. When they team kill each other it's not fun and leaves a sour taste in our collective mouths.

On February 24 2011 07:44 Talin wrote:


How is it way better drama?

- Outsiders (fans) won't even get to know or hear anything about it, teams will just come up with a list of names and everything that led to that will stay hidden from the public.

- It will create negative tension within a team. In a team-kill situations, at least both players are given a chance to compete, and the better Starcraft player will win. With NASL's rule, it's more like one or two members of the team are told "we think you suck, you're not getting in our 5" in one way or the other (we won't know why or how).

- In general, because of the 5 players per team limit, you shut off better players and give league spots to the worse players (from other teams). Why anyone would want this is beyond me.



That situation is completely different. Mostly everybody on TL wants foreigners to be successful in Korea and support them unanimously. I myself supported Idra in the GSL, and it's VERY painful for me to support Idra in any way, but in the example you named, there's a higher cause.

There's no such thing at all in an entirely foreign-based league.

On February 24 2011 07:47 Daigomi wrote:

He brought it up as an example of a team kill, I followed the example. The logic stays the same though. Arguing that people who support EG would prefer to have one EG player excluded from the tournament rather than have two EG players play each other in a non-teamkill way is absurd.