After few days of laggy internet today i was finaly able to play some iccup games and oh boy what a day it was.After few normal games I get to play pvz where i lose so badly and lately ive been sucking so bad in pvz... feeling kinda hard to beat even semidecent z players. Yea i know zvp is imba XD i play zvp too and its so ez haha!

So Im like ok enough with this pvz shenanigans and gonna play some zvz games now ! Played 3 zvz games went different BO every game and got hardcountered every game and obvious I lose 0-3.

Back to pvz again and last game i play really long pvz where somehow i manage to loss it in the most anoying way. Just everything i did got hardcountered so hard. It wasnt even funny anymore I tried hard to stay in the game but the zerg was everywhere on the map. The game was really close at the end but the douchebag even started to bm me at the end.

Now Im kinda pissed and host the replay to watch some of my obvoius big mistakes but what was more obvious was that the guy was possibly hacking. I was 90% sure he was hacking so i rehost the replay and watched it from his perspective. And what you know the guy was hacking 100%.Gonna host the replay so you can watch it if you want to

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=40723

Gonna put some of his obvious moves here :

1. I go for standard fe and doing a stargate build. His ovie start going home i cancel stargate and start 3 more gates. I just before I move out he adds 3 sunks on each of his expos.

2. While im killing his expo I start my 3rd on unusal position on the natural . He sends ling imidiately without any vision.

3. I get lurk containted and lose my expo starting another expo on pos 9 and again with no vision he just ran around my army and goes straight for expo again. Ok could be coincedence now

4. He starts 2 expos on his side of his map and i spot this with obs. I start going for his expo and he cancel the expo on his natural with no vision of my army.

5. Well this is enough but the whole replay is just one hackfest countering everywhere with no vision on any part of the map.

The sad part is that he had AH ON. And then i show to one of the admins that he is blatantly hacking. And the admins said " I just checked the game there is no hack here " . Well i just feel so demoralized to play BW anymore... ppl hacking which means AH is not working and admins dont give a damn anymore

Tipany

United States368 Posts

February 21 2011 04:01 GMT

On February 21 2011 12:50 SkelA wrote:
4. He starts 2 expos on his side of his map and i spot this with obs. I start going for his expo and he cancel the expo on his natural with no vision of my army.

This is probably the most telling one.

On February 21 2011 12:50 SkelA wrote:
The sad part is that he had AH ON. And then i show to one of the admins that he is blatantly hacking. And the admins said " I just checked the game there is no hack here " . Well i just feel so demoralized to play BW anymore... ppl hacking which means AH is not working and admins dont give a damn anymore

Life just thought that it needed to give you one last kick to the face. D:

masterbreti

Korea (South)2711 Posts

February 21 2011 05:05 GMT

honestly send the replay to someone like sayle. he would know what to do if this was hacking

Lucid90

Canada340 Posts

February 21 2011 06:18 GMT

feeling kinda hard to beat even semidecent z players

okay, so if you're playing a zerg opponent it's a pvz then that means you're protoss.

So Im like ok enough with this pvz shenanigans and gonna play some zvz games now !

now I'm confused. Are you zerg or protoss or do you randomly choose matchups out of thin air? It's cool if you play random or whatever, but you should be aware that if you focus on one race it's a lot easier to get better at it than focusing on all the races.

If you're going to play PvZ you should know that it's very easy to play against Z in that matchup. Infact P is by far the easiest race to play up until you hit like maybe around C in iccup because all you have to do is make units and 1a and win. Make templar and storm everything, it's very micro intensive for zergs to storm dodge, and this is almost impossible to do at low levels. Unless you're a higher up iccup player I don't see even the reason to complain about anything because you have a much easier time against your opponent at the same iccup level.

Getting mad over a loss that the opponent 'supposedly' hacked on is stupid. People cheat in this game, and some of them are going to get away with it. Look at sc2, right now there are a lot of hackers running around because bliz doesn't want to ban people immediately, they want to do it in waves because that generates more income in repeated sales. But just because you lost to a hacker doesn't mean it was your fault. Just try to ignore this particular game because there's no point in getting mad because the guy was cheating. He will eventually get caught and be banned in a future game if he was a hacker, and if the admin refuses to acknowledge your hacking acquisition then the only thing you can do is to forget about it.

SkelA

Macedonia13032 Posts

February 21 2011 12:48 GMT

Lucid90 Yea i pick random matchups whenever i feel like it . And pvz is not easy lol

Anyways gonna try making a thread on iccup maybe to show them that their AH is broken.

Sayle

United Kingdom3685 Posts

February 21 2011 13:06 GMT

On February 21 2011 21:48 SkelA wrote:
Anyways gonna try making a thread on iccup maybe to show them that their AH is broken.

You know what's more demoralizing than getting hacked a couple of games? Having someone make a thread saying "admins dont give a damn anymore" when I spend 25-30 hours per week (not including my casting) doing ICCup admin work. Having someone not read the ICCup ladder rules on how to report hackers and then whine about it when we don't do anything.

We KNOW AH isn't perfect. Oblivion circumvents it completely. That's why we have an entire team of counter-abuse admins whose job is to ban abusers and hackers. That's why we're reviewing every single fucking ISL ladder game to make sure this isn't happening. If you think someone hacked in a game you played on our server, the correct response is not to run into the admin channel crying about it. Half the admins there are just trial admins and don't know what the fuck is up. You should instead make a complaint about that game from your match list so it will actually get looked at by the CAT admins. And in case you still don't feel like figuring out how to do that, let me link that for you: http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/71684.html

SkelA

Macedonia13032 Posts

February 21 2011 13:18 GMT

Hey Sayle its all fine. Yesterday i showed the replay to some admin and he said he checked somehow through iccup and said there was no hack. I just did the complaint right now after some admin told me the right way to report it.

Anyway I didnt know that AH was broken so it was really surprizing for me that hackers were hacking blatantly with AH ON.Maybe my post was kinda offensive against Iccup admins but i was kinda pissed of yesterday and it wasnt really my intention. Keep up the good work admins

don_kyuhote

3006 Posts

February 21 2011 15:23 GMT

I've had Iccup admin tell me my opponent wasn't hacking when it was suspicious before.
Not the best feeling.
You feel like cheesing and all-inning the next game to get a win as fast as possible.
But like Day9 said in his #100 daily, losing games like that makes me wanna be so good mechanically and macro wise, that I can't be beaten even when they see everything I do.
Then maybe I'll be the one doing bm as my 200/200 army rolls him