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thehorsebecomesking
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
On February 19 2011 08:28 PH wrote: Anyway, could you link me those games, Chef? I'm really curious. Personally, I think going more than a few ultras to soak some hits is dumb, and that hydra/ling/muta is really the best bet against massive tank lines. JD vs Sea on Circuit Breaker: Flash vs Zero on Benzene: + Show Spoiler + (but Flash's build really wasn't intended for lategame and he was fucked after Zero held off the gols) | ||
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
On February 19 2011 08:49 thehorsebecomesking wrote: i dont think anyone will get back into it after playing enough sc2. for a casual user actual competitiveness of bw is gone. player base is broken up, the only people that still play are either doing it for fun or simply cant afford the equipment to play sc2. that and a few enthusiasts here and there. its over OK Mr. BW expert with 21 post and who joined TL 5 days ago. Its definitely NOT over. BW is more awesome than you are anyone has yet comprehended, as shown by the video posted by OP. It won't die no matter what new games come out. Plus what do you mean "the casual competitiveness of BW is gone"? I played all day today as a D- zerg who started playing seriously a month ago and GUESS WHAT I LOVED IT. Why don't you get on Fish or ICCUP then tell me how dead it is. EDIT: ok I was way to emotional but I just hate it when someone gets on a good blog like this and spews all this off-topic garbage about how this game is dead. Please just don't comment on something about BW if your not going to provide anything useful. | ||
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thehorsebecomesking
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Chef
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
On February 19 2011 11:47 thehorsebecomesking wrote: it means that you are playing for fun, you are not really competing with anyone but yourself. channels are empty, you can rave all you want but the only semi visited place is op teamliquid. if you read my post carefully you will notice that i mentioned some people that still do play. but this is a dead scene now, outside of korea obviously. you can find more people playing d2 atm. not even talking about servers outside of iccup Im starting to realize you don't actually know anything about BW. If you want to learn some more about it, PM and I could play some practice games with you! Its not that hard to learn if you've got someone there to give you a hand. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
On February 19 2011 11:47 thehorsebecomesking wrote: it means that you are playing for fun, you are not really competing with anyone but yourself. channels are empty, you can rave all you want but the only semi visited place is op teamliquid. if you read my post carefully you will notice that i mentioned some people that still do play. but this is a dead scene now, outside of korea obviously. you can find more people playing d2 atm. not even talking about servers outside of iccup The foreighner pros moved on to sc2 hoping to make money.. for everyone else whether they are playing BW or sc2, they are "playing for fun". You can find games on iccup just as you can find games on sc2 by pushing the find match button. BW chat channels are not always filled and sc2 chat channels just barely were allowed to come into existence. And why are the BW channels empty? Becuase a lot of broodwar players all came together to mutaually agree that BW is dead becuase artosis said so. Then people like you decided to continually promote the game as dead for absolutely no reason. All you are doing is limiting your options to sc2, a game that has had its growth completly stunted by a very obnoxious corperations. | ||
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XXGeneration
United States625 Posts
On February 18 2011 22:02 meegrean wrote: Action's late game ZvT is never disappointing to watch. edit: though he lost. Spoilerr T-T | ||
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djcube
United States985 Posts
To the guy that says bw is over, it's actually way bigger in Korea than sc2. And kind of paradoxical but if you actually played bw you'd know that the player base is hardly "broken up." What were you trying to point out by "the only people left playing are the ones who think it's fun..." like, no really? Why do you play games period if it's not fun? | ||
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thehorsebecomesking
189 Posts
like i said, some still play for fun. to me though as soon as competition is gone the game is gone too. im not talking about koreans, of course they still play a ton of bw. what i mean is the scene that i cared for, like beating shitty clans in clanleagues, doing better than other foreigners on the ladder, ranking in top 20 or 40 or whatever in country rankings. we all knew it was stupid and hopeless trying hard to get your name out there but as long as there was some respect to be gained it was exciting. i still mess around on icup but i lost the passion for the grind. since i dont want to do something that is the essense of the game anymore the game is over | ||
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
On February 19 2011 08:28 PH wrote: Personally, I think going more than a few ultras to soak some hits is dumb, and that hydra/ling/muta is really the best bet against massive tank lines. The greatest upset of all time | ||
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
On February 19 2011 13:29 thehorsebecomesking wrote: im not one of 'those people' that come into a thread to proclaim the death of bw just because they are bitter for never being able to tame or understand it. i actually think that bw is a vastly superior game, both in terms of skill and entertainment. i am simply stating facts as i see them. last time i played sc2 was during beta, my computer is not good enough to run it otherwise i would be playing it now. i still play iccup here and there, played it since the death of pgt like i said, some still play for fun. to me though as soon as competition is gone the game is gone too. im not talking about koreans, of course they still play a ton of bw. what i mean is the scene that i cared for, like beating shitty clans in clanleagues, doing better than other foreigners on the ladder, ranking in top 20 or 40 or whatever in country rankings. we all knew it was stupid and hopeless trying hard to get your name out there but as long as there was some respect to be gained it was exciting. i still mess around on icup but i lost the passion for the grind. since i dont want to do something that is the essense of the game anymore the game is over Im sorry I judged you as to quickly as being just another troll. I don't really understand what you mean though about competition. The ISL is a pretty competitive and top players will be revered through out the foreign BW community in the whole world. Plus, theres still WCG and weekly defiler tournaments. Then theres the ICCUP ladder and having your stream featured. Theres plenty for a good player to gain lots of respect. I know I respect almost any top level foreigner. who is still playing BW and didn't sell out for SC2. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
In Korea, BW will continue to stay strong for a while, but once the current generation of players starts moving on, what's going to happen? The proteams are shrinking in size. Bisu mentioned in an interview that SKT has gone from having 20 people staying in the team house to 10. Hell, we've lost two pro teams in the last year or so, and ACE isn't going to be around much longer if there aren't enough decent players to fill up its roster with. There's just not enough new blood. SC2 is taking away all the players willing to compete. The only thing keeping it afloat right now is the GSL's utter retardation in handling its tournament. They're keeping their viewership a niche by forcing payment to watch games, and their live events have been a joke. Once they learn, it's going to go over. I hate it as much as the next person, but BW fans like us are a minority. People like new and shiny things. | ||
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
On February 20 2011 11:36 PH wrote: I hate to say it, but BW outside of Korea really is either dead or dying. Before SC2 was announced, it was already shrinking outside of Korea. After SC2 was announced, there was a big boom for BW. People excited fro SC2 were getting nostalgia attacks and were coming back to BW for a while. After SC2 came out, nearly every big name in foreigner BW has gone to SC2. In Korea, BW will continue to stay strong for a while, but once the current generation of players starts moving on, what's going to happen? The proteams are shrinking in size. Bisu mentioned in an interview that SKT has gone from having 20 people staying in the team house to 10. Hell, we've lost two pro teams in the last year or so, and ACE isn't going to be around much longer if there aren't enough decent players to fill up its roster with. There's just not enough new blood. SC2 is taking away all the players willing to compete. The only thing keeping it afloat right now is the GSL's utter retardation in handling its tournament. They're keeping their viewership a niche by forcing payment to watch games, and their live events have been a joke. Once they learn, it's going to go over. I hate it as much as the next person, but BW fans like us are a minority. People like new and shiny things. Well I still don't believe it. The best things always survive. Thats just nature. Natural selection. BW is the best game ever played and the most enjoyable sport ever watched. Just like classical music has been popular science the dawn of modern artistic expression, BW will survive. | ||
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
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IamBach
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RaGe
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