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kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
February 17 2011 17:27 GMT
#21
It's a terrible situation and obviously not fair but like any other abusive relationship I think you should just move out and cut off contact ASAP, whether that be college or just right now I dunno. From the amount you blog about this problem and what you describe it seems quite chronic and also seems unlikely to change
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
February 17 2011 17:35 GMT
#22
You'll understand when you have kids. I guess that's all I can say. If the key was your responsibility to keep I can understand why she would be upset about you losing it. If this is the worst your parents rant and rave at you consider yourself pretty lucky. The vast majority of us (at least all the people I know) have went through similar if not worse. It's not the end of the world man. Try to see things from her point of view. No doubt she loves you very much and just like most parents they want their children to succeed in life. When you give them a task (keeping track of the key) and they fail in that task you feel as a parent that you are a failure and sometimes you lash out. It doesn't mean that she hates you or wants you to move out or anything. She is just frustrated and doesn't know how to deal with it. Talk to her when the both of you have calmed down and when I say talk, I don't mean throw accusations at her about how awful a parent she is. Admit your own fault in the incident before moving on in the conversation.

Also you should be grateful that she is allowing you to live there. Make sure you let her know how much you appreciate that. I have two kids and I can tell you from experience that it is very difficult on an emotional level to take care of people with little or no reward. And if you honestly think you suffer from depression, remember that it is sometime hereditary. She could be experiencing the same pain as you and just like you, she may not be able to express it.

Remember that no matter what happens and how she is acting toward you, she loves you very much.
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
February 17 2011 17:37 GMT
#23
On February 18 2011 01:10 BasilPesto wrote:
Dayumn son.

If you can get access to a counsellor, then I would highly recommend it. It's another avenue to get feelings off your chest, and also to explore possible routes out of your situation.

Stay resilient though, your mother obviously has her fair share of issues, if not more. It's definitely a tough situation when you're in a state of dependency, so I can only ask that you keep on battling through, until you can achieve independence.



+1 agree with the counsellor. Would be better if u can get ur mom to ur counsellor too ;D

God bless you man. Be strong there.
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kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
February 17 2011 17:44 GMT
#24
On February 18 2011 02:35 Magic_Mike wrote:
You'll understand when you have kids. I guess that's all I can say. If the key was your responsibility to keep I can understand why she would be upset about you losing it. If this is the worst your parents rant and rave at you consider yourself pretty lucky. The vast majority of us (at least all the people I know) have went through similar if not worse. It's not the end of the world man. Try to see things from her point of view. No doubt she loves you very much and just like most parents they want their children to succeed in life. When you give them a task (keeping track of the key) and they fail in that task you feel as a parent that you are a failure and sometimes you lash out. It doesn't mean that she hates you or wants you to move out or anything. She is just frustrated and doesn't know how to deal with it. Talk to her when the both of you have calmed down and when I say talk, I don't mean throw accusations at her about how awful a parent she is. Admit your own fault in the incident before moving on in the conversation.

Also you should be grateful that she is allowing you to live there. Make sure you let her know how much you appreciate that. I have two kids and I can tell you from experience that it is very difficult on an emotional level to take care of people with little or no reward. And if you honestly think you suffer from depression, remember that it is sometime hereditary. She could be experiencing the same pain as you and just like you, she may not be able to express it.

Remember that no matter what happens and how she is acting toward you, she loves you very much.


from what he blogs about, I'd have to disagree. He has tried many different methods of talking to her at many different times, and it seems to just result in her blowing up no matter what. I cannot make any judgments on whether or not she loves him, but from what he has described, she seems extremely narcissistic and enjoys putting him down to elevate her own status. That said I obviously have no idea what the real situation is, but it just seems to me if she is having such a detrimental effect on your well-being and happiness, the only solution is to move out and cut contact until either one of you changes.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 17:51:14
February 17 2011 17:49 GMT
#25
Sorry dude, but your mom is a psycho bitch. How old are you? It really doesn't matter how much she cares about you, it's the actions that count, and she is treating you like shit. It's one thing to try and have discipline to make you learn to be a better person, it's another to make your life living hell, make you stay up when you need rest, while acting self righteous. You should get a job and move out asap, or if you can get good grades get a scholarship and go to college. Even get a loan and go to college. Just get the hell out, it is a bad situation for you. But in the meantime, be really nice to her, and try to appease her. Not only will this hopefully make things easier on you, but try to realize that the way she is acting is more detrimental to her than it is you, she deserves pity not anger, and being angry or rebellious will just make it worse for you, and take you down to her level. She might deserve your insults but that will only make it worse, try to be nice and respectful even when she doesn't deserve it - simply for the sake of biding your time until you can leave. As much as you don't want to be like her, when you get older it is going to be really challenging for you to not be like her and to not have a low self esteem because of how she treats her, and it will only be worse for you the longer you stay. This is what some people call a toxic relationship, and I can't say enough that you need to get out of it. Just don't do something drastic, because if you leave before you are ready, and then have to come back later on it will only be worse.
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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
February 17 2011 17:57 GMT
#26
Dude, I've spent a bit of time researching mental illness(I'm not a psychiatrist nor claim to be). Your mom is certifiable crazy. Try to pity her/help her instead of getting angry.

I know that seems crazy in itself, as you are depressed due to your mom's antics. You just need to realize that she is not in control of herself all the time. Something is wrong inside her head, it is not your fault. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. You sound like an amazing person and son.

I can only suggest that you either battle your parents yourself with your words/will/actions, and if that doesn't work, seek outside help.

Never give up, never surrender!!! ~~ Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -Sagan
Haiy
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany32 Posts
February 17 2011 18:09 GMT
#27
Sorry maybe I am blind, but how old is he?
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
February 17 2011 18:18 GMT
#28
Again, best thing you can do is be successful in your academics for you - not for her, then pick a college faaaaaaaar away from "home".

You'll build a new life once there.

Also, you should consider yourself lucky to some degree - you have a formative trauma. Most of us in this spoiled generation don't. You're gonna want the opposite of what your mom ended up with. Friends, a big loving family, colleagues who respect and admire you and most important - kids who love you and who feel your support.

It's easier to get things when you want them. If you don't really want anything - you'll just drift. If nothing seems important enough to care about - if nothing spurs the emotion you show in these posts - you wouldn't be better off.

You can look at your "successful" friends who did something, laugh at their petty "accomplishments" in their chosen fields. In the end though, all you ever were was the guy could do everything and therefor chose to do nothing. The ability to do anything & everything, a gift bestowed on you entirely from your parents - socially, genetically or both.

Time to make a choice. Do you want to curse the gift for its origin or use it to save yourself?

--

Look at it this way: a malevolent ruler oppresses his people and make them work for him with no pay beyond necessary upkeep costs. His son who made many friends among the workers growing up inherits the throne. What should the heir do? Give up the throne to the workers and dump the hoarded fortune in their lap? That would most likely result in the rise of another dictator. No, the heir should face the demons of the past - build a democratic society from the ground up, educate the people and provide for them the ground works of a stable future - "give the man a fish / teach him how to fish" etc.

Now you may not be responsible for a whole kingdom here, but you're responsible for the future of at least one man - yourself. You have to make sure your resentment towards your roots doesn't cloud your knowledge. You've been given a great gift - knowledge is the most powerful thing in our world and you have the ability to absorb and interpret it. You mustn't shun your gift, regardless of its origin - it is your power and as Sean and indeed Ben Parker would say - with it comes great responsibility.

It doesn't matter what college you go to - in fact it would probably do you good not to go to whatever prestigious institution you currently 'think' you want to attend. What matters is that you go, that you leave home and start building something new, a solid foundation for yourself to stand on. You can't live their [her] life - not even their [her] dream life. You can only live for yourself and that starts with the road to college.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
February 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#29
your signature does not support your blog's argument
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 18:45:56
February 17 2011 18:44 GMT
#30
On February 18 2011 03:28 Assault_1 wrote:
your signature does not support your blog's argument

Hahaha. It's sort of a joke.

Mom is like 54

I'm a Junior in HS, and I Think she'd just totally freak out if I tried to leave to cool off or anything. It's a tough situation. I'm thinking a bit more clearly now that it's morning, but I"M sitll not entirely sure what to do about it.

At school break atm on itouch, so I'll post back in a few hours or w/e. I will be seeing a counselor tomorrow though, says my dad.

Also I"m only a junior, so it's probably not a great idea to separate ties.

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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 18:52:34
February 17 2011 18:51 GMT
#31
Here's the best advice I can give you. You need to bear with it until you can leave home for college. I don't care if you have to take out a butt load of loans, but try to go to college as far away from home as possible. It'll help you in your development and independence. I feel your pain.
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
February 17 2011 19:05 GMT
#32
sure she flipped out on you when she didn't really have to
but did everyone miss the fact that the key went missing and the blogger didn't really care about it?
i know it's unlikely but what if someone stole it from the porch and was going to break into your house
yes she's overreacting but there are always two sides to a story and we're only hearing your side of it
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
February 17 2011 19:27 GMT
#33
On February 18 2011 04:05 awu25 wrote:
sure she flipped out on you when she didn't really have to
but did everyone miss the fact that the key went missing and the blogger didn't really care about it?
i know it's unlikely but what if someone stole it from the porch and was going to break into your house
yes she's overreacting but there are always two sides to a story and we're only hearing your side of it


It's $20 to change a damn lock. Does a key really warrant all that yelling, or any yelling for that matter? Mistakes happen. People aren't perfect. Shit gets lost. That's how the world goes.
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
February 17 2011 19:38 GMT
#34
On February 18 2011 04:27 Joementum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 04:05 awu25 wrote:
sure she flipped out on you when she didn't really have to
but did everyone miss the fact that the key went missing and the blogger didn't really care about it?
i know it's unlikely but what if someone stole it from the porch and was going to break into your house
yes she's overreacting but there are always two sides to a story and we're only hearing your side of it


It's $20 to change a damn lock. Does a key really warrant all that yelling, or any yelling for that matter? Mistakes happen. People aren't perfect. Shit gets lost. That's how the world goes.

i'm not saying it didn't warrant all that yelling
but yes i would be a bit pissed if my son lost a key and didn't bother looking for it or bother telling me
it's not about the money, it's about the principle of responsibility
he wasn't trusted to carry the key around and yet it somehow still gets lost
yes the mom is a crazy psycho but the blogger should've taken the initiative to go look for it or tell his mom
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
February 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#35
On February 18 2011 04:38 awu25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 04:27 Joementum wrote:
On February 18 2011 04:05 awu25 wrote:
sure she flipped out on you when she didn't really have to
but did everyone miss the fact that the key went missing and the blogger didn't really care about it?
i know it's unlikely but what if someone stole it from the porch and was going to break into your house
yes she's overreacting but there are always two sides to a story and we're only hearing your side of it


It's $20 to change a damn lock. Does a key really warrant all that yelling, or any yelling for that matter? Mistakes happen. People aren't perfect. Shit gets lost. That's how the world goes.

i'm not saying it didn't warrant all that yelling
but yes i would be a bit pissed if my son lost a key and didn't bother looking for it or bother telling me
it's not about the money, it's about the principle of responsibility
he wasn't trusted to carry the key around and yet it somehow still gets lost
yes the mom is a crazy psycho but the blogger should've taken the initiative to go look for it or tell his mom


I'd think it'd be both a lot easier and a lot worse to lose a key if you're forced to hide it outside your house. You can keep picking up keys off the street all day long and never get inside anywhere. It's a bit harder if you don't even know if the owner lost it within 10minutes from his house rather than if it's blatantly hidden behind it.
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Elryi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States16 Posts
February 17 2011 20:11 GMT
#36
On February 18 2011 02:35 Magic_Mike wrote:
You'll understand when you have kids. I guess that's all I can say. If the key was your responsibility to keep I can understand why she would be upset about you losing it. If this is the worst your parents rant and rave at you consider yourself pretty lucky. The vast majority of us (at least all the people I know) have went through similar if not worse. It's not the end of the world man. Try to see things from her point of view. No doubt she loves you very much and just like most parents they want their children to succeed in life. When you give them a task (keeping track of the key) and they fail in that task you feel as a parent that you are a failure and sometimes you lash out. It doesn't mean that she hates you or wants you to move out or anything. She is just frustrated and doesn't know how to deal with it. Talk to her when the both of you have calmed down and when I say talk, I don't mean throw accusations at her about how awful a parent she is. Admit your own fault in the incident before moving on in the conversation.

Also you should be grateful that she is allowing you to live there. Make sure you let her know how much you appreciate that. I have two kids and I can tell you from experience that it is very difficult on an emotional level to take care of people with little or no reward. And if you honestly think you suffer from depression, remember that it is sometime hereditary. She could be experiencing the same pain as you and just like you, she may not be able to express it.

Remember that no matter what happens and how she is acting toward you, she loves you very much.



It's the other way around. She should be grateful. He didn't ask for any of this. And if theres no reward? THEN WHY DID YOU HAVE KIDS?!
pinke
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States56 Posts
February 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#37
On February 18 2011 02:35 Magic_Mike wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

If the key was your responsibility to keep I can understand why she would be upset about you losing it. If this is the worst your parents rant and rave at you consider yourself pretty lucky. The vast majority of us (at least all the people I know) have went through similar if not worse. It's not the end of the world man. Try to see things from her point of view. No doubt she loves you very much and just like most parents they want their children to succeed in life. When you give them a task (keeping track of the key) and they fail in that task you feel as a parent that you are a failure and sometimes you lash out. It doesn't mean that she hates you or wants you to move out or anything. She is just frustrated and doesn't know how to deal with it. Talk to her when the both of you have calmed down and when I say talk, I don't mean throw accusations at her about how awful a parent she is. Admit your own fault in the incident before moving on in the conversation.

Also you should be grateful that she is allowing you to live there. Make sure you let her know how much you appreciate that. I have two kids and I can tell you from experience that it is very difficult on an emotional level to take care of people with little or no reward. And if you honestly think you suffer from depression, remember that it is sometime hereditary. She could be experiencing the same pain as you and just like you, she may not be able to express it.

Remember that no matter what happens and how she is acting toward you, she loves you very much.



Did you even read his post? She wouldn't trust him with the responsibility of the key and made him leave it on the back porch to share it, and now who knows where it went? If it had been in his possession and truly been his responsibility he probably wouldn't have lost it. Of course parents lash out sometimes, but this happens far too often and far too extremely. He's still a kid, he's going to make mistakes, it's part of growing up and it's part of being a parent. He's also clearly tried to talk to her before, but she won't listen. He's tried to make her happy, but his priorities aren't hers and when he sucks it up and tries to live by her standards, she gets upset that he's faking it. She sits over his shoulder while he's online and listens in on his phone conversations? Are you really implying that that's okay for a teenage boy? If you have kids, please try to remember what it was like to be one.

I honestly don't know what more you could realistically ask for of a son. You're a good person. I think your mom clearly has psychological issues, don't let anyone tell you this is your fault. You're just a kid and a perfectly normal one. If your mom can't handle the stresses of parenthood, and yeah, there's a lot, that's on her and it's really unfortunate that you have to suffer for it. If I were you, I'd immerse yourself in extracurriculars at school and put your focus on good grades and getting a scholarship and getting as far away as possible.
but then I think that rain is wet, so who am I to judge?
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
February 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#38
On February 18 2011 05:11 Elryi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 02:35 Magic_Mike wrote:
You'll understand when you have kids. I guess that's all I can say. If the key was your responsibility to keep I can understand why she would be upset about you losing it. If this is the worst your parents rant and rave at you consider yourself pretty lucky. The vast majority of us (at least all the people I know) have went through similar if not worse. It's not the end of the world man. Try to see things from her point of view. No doubt she loves you very much and just like most parents they want their children to succeed in life. When you give them a task (keeping track of the key) and they fail in that task you feel as a parent that you are a failure and sometimes you lash out. It doesn't mean that she hates you or wants you to move out or anything. She is just frustrated and doesn't know how to deal with it. Talk to her when the both of you have calmed down and when I say talk, I don't mean throw accusations at her about how awful a parent she is. Admit your own fault in the incident before moving on in the conversation.

Also you should be grateful that she is allowing you to live there. Make sure you let her know how much you appreciate that. I have two kids and I can tell you from experience that it is very difficult on an emotional level to take care of people with little or no reward. And if you honestly think you suffer from depression, remember that it is sometime hereditary. She could be experiencing the same pain as you and just like you, she may not be able to express it.

Remember that no matter what happens and how she is acting toward you, she loves you very much.



It's the other way around. She should be grateful. He didn't ask for any of this. And if theres no reward? THEN WHY DID YOU HAVE KIDS?!

dude wtf? sounds like someone isn't grateful for their parents
if he didn't ask for any of this then he should go find his own house and get his own food and pay for anything himself
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
February 17 2011 20:24 GMT
#39
Your mom has psychological problems. You are her son, and you can't tell her what to do. She has trouble speaking complete sentences without mistakes, it leads me to believe she is either drunk/on drugs or her psychological condition dramatically influences her decision making which is showing up somewhat in her speech.

I have listened to the recording to kinda hear how this goes on.

She has severe psychological issues, you have the potential of developing them as well. Go to a psychologist if you can, try to move out if you can. Do you have a job? If not, try and get one, doesn't matter what it is, being out of the house longer could be good for you. Find a LAN center to go to for SC2 playing. Just stay out of the house, it's not healthy for you. Anytime I had problems with my dad, who I haven't talked to in years, I just would find something to do rather than engage in contact with him.

Start working out, riding a bike, doing something physical too.
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Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
February 17 2011 20:31 GMT
#40
Treat your parents like you treat anyone else. If they're an asshole to you, be an asshole back. Just because they gave birth to you doesn't give them the right to destroy you psychologically. And yea, they pay for your shelter, food, etc. but they have to. If she actually does lock you out of your house and doesn't let you in or give you food, phone the police, and charge her with child abuse/neglect.
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