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Talked this over with some teammates last night.
Some of us think that zerg should need to make an overlord (in addition to the first one they spawn with) before making a spawning pool.
It only makes sense since terrans have to make a supply depot and protosses have to make a pylon.
Then i can scout on 14 every single game and not worry about fending off 6 zerglings every game on steppes of war or scrap station before I can wall or get a zealot out.
I believe this will greatly balance the game, and that it will make zerg as balanced as the other races.
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lol hear hear my protoss brethren you get 5 stars 
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well you know if a certain 2 players in korea were Protoss instead of zerg, they would be seriously promoting this idea to blizzard.
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The only joke here is you losing to 6pool.
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On February 17 2011 00:02 Skyze wrote:
well you know if a certain 2 players in korea were Protoss instead of zerg, they would be seriously promoting this idea to blizzard.
Except that one of them IS protoss and they actually back their points up with logic unlike you, and there's no logic to be had in this particular argument.
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Nexus first every game, LOL.
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On February 17 2011 00:08 telfire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 00:02 Skyze wrote:
well you know if a certain 2 players in korea were Protoss instead of zerg, they would be seriously promoting this idea to blizzard. Except that one of them IS protoss and they actually back their points up with logic unlike you, and there's no logic to be had in this particular argument.
Oh boy, I see where this is going...
But really, you had me 5/5!
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Hyrule19224 Posts
Bad Antimage. Bad! Go sit in the corner until you've learned why what you've done is wrong.
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Imagine a world where this was real, no more 6 pools!!
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This is really old... I heard this like 5 times in the thread with the supply depot patch.
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In times like this you have to ask yourself:
"What would Action Jezus do?"
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Rofl the tech tree to a spawning pool is TWO overlord
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On February 17 2011 00:08 telfire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 00:02 Skyze wrote:
well you know if a certain 2 players in korea were Protoss instead of zerg, they would be seriously promoting this idea to blizzard. Except that one of them IS protoss and they actually back their points up with logic unlike you, and there's no logic to be had in this particular argument.
You SERIOUSLY think Artosis plays protoss?? SERIOUSLY??? Thats a big joke. Playing 20 games of a race doesnt give you enough to seriously discuss them in a balance perspective.. Especially someone whos going into it being biased for zerg already (i mean, thats the whole reason Artosis switched races wasnt it? he cant play zerg strong enough so he had to play Protoss and is still losing with them)
Seriously.. Actually LEARN to play zerg, instead of just crying "omg artosis says zerg sucks, therefor I wont even play".. THAT is the sole reason for zergs outside of Korea doing so poorly. Zergs in Korea, outside of Idra.. are PERFECTLY FINE.. Nestea is just about the strongest player in all of korea other than MVP.
I play random, and for the few games I play a week (under 20 due to work).. I never have any trouble vsing 3000+ masters players on ladder. Doesnt matter which map, doesnt matter if its ZvT or ZvP, I find a way to win. All it takes is brains. There is NO matchup that is an "instant-loss" in this game, not even close.
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On February 17 2011 02:35 EdSlyB wrote:
In times like this you have to ask yourself:
"What would Action Jezus do?"
Best post in the thread. My guess is 12 drone rush.
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Well it was either this or have it so that they restrict building a spawning pool for 5 minutes into the game just like trading is restricted in team games.
This just seemed like it wouldn't hurt zerg at all but instead, BENEFIT those who play the race especially with their supply - since they usually deprive themselves of an overlord for a while if they go for a zergling rush.
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
Seems reasonable. I never knew that I could make a spawning pool before an overlord anyways.
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On February 17 2011 02:35 EdSlyB wrote:
In times like this you have to ask yourself:
"What would Action Jezus do?"
HHahHHA
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On February 17 2011 02:35 EdSlyB wrote:
In times like this you have to ask yourself:
"What would Action Jezus do?"
Very well played sir!
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On February 17 2011 02:44 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 00:08 telfire wrote:On February 17 2011 00:02 Skyze wrote:
well you know if a certain 2 players in korea were Protoss instead of zerg, they would be seriously promoting this idea to blizzard. Except that one of them IS protoss and they actually back their points up with logic unlike you, and there's no logic to be had in this particular argument. You SERIOUSLY think Artosis plays protoss?? SERIOUSLY??? Thats a big joke. Playing 20 games of a race doesnt give you enough to seriously discuss them in a balance perspective.. Especially someone whos going into it being biased for zerg already (i mean, thats the whole reason Artosis switched races wasnt it? he cant play zerg strong enough so he had to play Protoss and is still losing with them) Seriously.. Actually LEARN to play zerg, instead of just crying "omg artosis says zerg sucks, therefor I wont even play".. THAT is the sole reason for zergs outside of Korea doing so poorly. Zergs in Korea, outside of Idra.. are PERFECTLY FINE.. Nestea is just about the strongest player in all of korea other than MVP. I play random, and for the few games I play a week (under 20 due to work).. I never have any trouble vsing 3000+ masters players on ladder. Doesnt matter which map, doesnt matter if its ZvT or ZvP, I find a way to win. All it takes is brains. There is NO matchup that is an "instant-loss" in this game, not even close.
Artosis switched to Protoss a while back and currently does not play Zerg. You are uninformed and illogical. You're the only one doing any QQ or complaining. YOU are the one who made a snide comment and backed it with no logic or reasoning.
Sorry but you do not "find a way to win". You lose just as often, like almost everyone. You do not have a 100% win record and you are not playing on anywhere near a level that Artosis plays.
Keep trollin', though.
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Sure lets do it, doesn't Zerg already start with an overlord?
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Yea lets nerf zerg some more till there a uselss race and everyone plays toss and terran GREAT IDEA ANTIMAGE!!!!!
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Nice first post ^
IMO Zerg should have to build 18 drones before pool, that'll stop the cheese in it's tracks :D
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On February 17 2011 16:27 scarfaceproduct wrote:
Yea lets nerf zerg some more till there a uselss race and everyone plays toss and terran GREAT IDEA ANTIMAGE!!!!!
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Personally, I think it would help more if only 1 zergling came out per egg.
Perhaps we should lower the dps of zerglings too - it's a tad cheesy atm!
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move ling speed to lair please
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should require a lair before you can make drones... larvae inject is way too imba otherwise.
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I feel that zerg dosent need a buff vs cols
I gave it allot of thought and came to the conclusion that if cols could damage there own units with there aoe, it would kind of restrict the number of cols they would want to make for fear of surrounds, drops (anything to get the splash to damage his units as well) ect.
burrowed roaches, infested terrans, would both be a reasonable approach
I believe it would fix allot of issues in pvsp and zvsp
And force toss to work on another source of tech strategy with or without there cols, once players find ways to explore this change. I don't feel its really a nerf
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