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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
February 12 2011 17:23 GMT
#1
I'm currently studying musicology, but lately I've been thinking of maybe getting a masters of science. Before I can start taking the degree at the university I have to take a math subject since I only have one year, and two are needed.

So my question is: are there any websites or good books that I can start to prepare? I want to prepare before actually starting to study it!

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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
February 12 2011 17:36 GMT
#2
What is your current level of math expertise? You're not being specific enough for us to be able to help you.
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
February 12 2011 17:39 GMT
#3
Depends on what sort of math you need. Are we talking calculus and other basic stuff, or higher math? If calculus, just pick up a copy of Stewart or any other standard calculus text and work through it, it should be pretty self-explanatory. If higher math, let me know what field (or what you'd be doing) and I can probably recommend an introductory-level text to something relevant. What would your MS be in specifically?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 12 2011 17:44 GMT
#4
Since you are studying musicology, I doubt you know much math. Perhaps some basic undergraduate level calculus is appropriate, or something even simpler.
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Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
February 12 2011 17:46 GMT
#5
I was going to post the same thing Iranon did, it shouldn't be too hard to work through a calculus book, especially if you use cramster.com for solutions.
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 12 2011 17:47 GMT
#6
Khanacademy.com can be quite useful.
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
February 12 2011 17:48 GMT
#7
khanacademy has stuff for almost any level and is very good, and then there's also MIT opencourseware which is also extremely good(obviously)

hf
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 12 2011 17:52 GMT
#8
If you're going into science I'd say Calculus or Classical mechanics would be the most imoportant, but that's mostly from a physics perspective I wouldn't think you'd need too much math for biology/chemistry/geology type stuff that you couldn't pick up quickly.
Kanin
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
75 Posts
February 12 2011 17:56 GMT
#9
Thank you guys so much for the khanacademy website. It has quickly become one of my most favorite websites on the internet.
*squeak* ^-^
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
February 12 2011 18:58 GMT
#10
Many people are pushing calculus because its pushed quite a lot at school and university but there are plenty of fields in higher mathematics that require pretty much 0 calculus.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
February 12 2011 22:37 GMT
#11
I'll just check the sites you posted and I will find my level, then post it here
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Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
February 12 2011 23:03 GMT
#12
+1 to anyone that says Khana Academy... its helps me so much when I need last minute studying for calculus xD
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QQkumber
Profile Joined November 2010
16 Posts
February 12 2011 23:25 GMT
#13
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/

Covers Calc I, II, III, Algebra, Linear Algebra, and Diff Eq's
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
February 12 2011 23:30 GMT
#14
Try MIT's opencourseware, http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
February 13 2011 15:59 GMT
#15
Thanks guys!

The first examn for the masters of science program is this:
http://wiki.math.ntnu.no/_media/tma4100/kont10.pdf

I don't understand a THING right now (it's in norwegian, but hopefully you will still get a picture on how hard it is)

Are there any place where I can find tasks to do? Math is much like an instrument, you must do it to learn, so I'm planning on finding some tasks to do, then use the websites you have provided and solve them
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RedThor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
116 Posts
February 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#16
On February 14 2011 00:59 Arnstein wrote:
Thanks guys!

The first examn for the masters of science program is this:
http://wiki.math.ntnu.no/_media/tma4100/kont10.pdf

I don't understand a THING right now (it's in norwegian, but hopefully you will still get a picture on how hard it is)

Are there any place where I can find tasks to do? Math is much like an instrument, you must do it to learn, so I'm planning on finding some tasks to do, then use the websites you have provided and solve them


That is Calculus. It will be VERY hard to learn on your own. You will have to solve MANY MANY problems (think homework) to start to understand. Figure 1-2 years to get a good grasp.

I strongly recommend taking a university calculus course. The MIT OpenCourseware makes for good supporting material.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
February 13 2011 17:32 GMT
#17
On February 14 2011 01:55 TheThor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 00:59 Arnstein wrote:
Thanks guys!

The first examn for the masters of science program is this:
http://wiki.math.ntnu.no/_media/tma4100/kont10.pdf

I don't understand a THING right now (it's in norwegian, but hopefully you will still get a picture on how hard it is)

Are there any place where I can find tasks to do? Math is much like an instrument, you must do it to learn, so I'm planning on finding some tasks to do, then use the websites you have provided and solve them


That is Calculus. It will be VERY hard to learn on your own. You will have to solve MANY MANY problems (think homework) to start to understand. Figure 1-2 years to get a good grasp.

I strongly recommend taking a university calculus course. The MIT OpenCourseware makes for good supporting material.


Alright, well, next autumn I will probably start a pre-course with math for two semesters, then, if I get accepted, I will start my masters of science degree, so I got quite some time to learn it. Me and my old math teacher usually go out and drink beer every now and then, I'll probably start asking him math questions now
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RedThor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
116 Posts
February 13 2011 21:09 GMT
#18

Try to get your math teacher friend to give you a few one-on-one classes. He should be able to guide you in the right path. If you sit down with a good textbook and think and solve problems for an hour a day in your free time, you will have a huge head start when you start taking a real course.

There is no substitution however for actual teaching.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
February 14 2011 11:07 GMT
#19
Even though he's my friend, he's 52 and has a girlfriend and children, I don't think I can bother him and get one-on-one classes. A textbook with problems is just what I need, so I'm trying to find one on the internet, and then use khanacademy to help me find the solution! Do you know of any such site?
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
February 24 2011 18:42 GMT
#20
I've bought a book with tasks now. I'm only on the first chapter, so it's been pretty easy so far. However, I don't know how to solve this one:

7
12 * 2 (the *2 is in the middle, so you have to * both of them). I thought it was just to make it 14/24, but the answer sheet says it's

7
6
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Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany819 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 19:18:16
February 24 2011 19:15 GMT
#21
On February 25 2011 03:42 Arnstein wrote:
I've bought a book with tasks now. I'm only on the first chapter, so it's been pretty easy so far. However, I don't know how to solve this one:

7
12 * 2 (the *2 is in the middle, so you have to * both of them). I thought it was just to make it 14/24, but the answer sheet says it's

7
6


huh... if you have problems multiplying fractions, you might have quite a journey in front of you...

Edit slaps me and tells me to correct it at least instead of just complaining

it is (7/12)*2 = (7*2)/12 ... upper part times upper part, down part times down part (how are those called in english anyway ?). In this case the "down part" of "2" is 1, as 2 = 2/1 ...
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 19:44:22
February 24 2011 19:20 GMT
#22
On February 25 2011 04:15 Espelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 03:42 Arnstein wrote:
I've bought a book with tasks now. I'm only on the first chapter, so it's been pretty easy so far. However, I don't know how to solve this one:

7
12 * 2 (the *2 is in the middle, so you have to * both of them). I thought it was just to make it 14/24, but the answer sheet says it's

7
6


huh... if you have problems multiplying fractions, you might have quite a journey in front of you...

Edit slaps me and tells me to correct it at least instead of just complaining

it is (7/12)*2 = (7*2)/12 ... upper part times upper part, down part times down part (how are those called in english anyway ?). In this case the "down part" of "2" is 1, as 2 = 2/1 ...


Well, I'm a fast learner, but I haven't done anything math related like this in 6 years. I have known and done this long time ago, but need to refresh my memory

Edit: And thanks for the answer, it was really bad to forget that 3 = 3/1, lol
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 17 2011 05:23 GMT
#23
Just wanted to bump this. I've done all the exercises on Khan Academy now. I really hope they make new ones soon, as it's not really hard stuff there yet.
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 17 2011 06:36 GMT
#24
On July 17 2011 14:23 Arnstein wrote:
Just wanted to bump this. I've done all the exercises on Khan Academy now. I really hope they make new ones soon, as it's not really hard stuff there yet.


All the exercises? What does that entail?

Ok looks like... linear equations, quadratics, complex numbers, logs, conics, partial fractions, functions, and word problems? So Algebra I / Algebra II level stuff?

I think next you should do some functions (transformations, asymptotes, blah blah) and trigonometry before starting calculus?
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 10:01:22
July 17 2011 09:57 GMT
#25
On July 17 2011 14:23 Arnstein wrote:
Just wanted to bump this. I've done all the exercises on Khan Academy now. I really hope they make new ones soon, as it's not really hard stuff there yet.


Why do you learn this? Is it because it's interesting to you? What appeals to you the most from your learning experience so far?

If you want to try something a little bit more complicated and theoretical (but also more fun, at least for some people), try Lay's Analysis: with an Introduction with Proof, which has most of the theories behind single variable calculus, and a little bit of topology...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
SarR
Profile Joined June 2011
476 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 13:32:41
July 17 2011 13:32 GMT
#26
Ive found this guy's channel helpful for learning math.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 17 2011 13:45 GMT
#27
On July 17 2011 15:36 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 14:23 Arnstein wrote:
Just wanted to bump this. I've done all the exercises on Khan Academy now. I really hope they make new ones soon, as it's not really hard stuff there yet.


All the exercises? What does that entail?

Ok looks like... linear equations, quadratics, complex numbers, logs, conics, partial fractions, functions, and word problems? So Algebra I / Algebra II level stuff?

I think next you should do some functions (transformations, asymptotes, blah blah) and trigonometry before starting calculus?


I've done some trigonometry as well on the exercises. Do you know where I can find more exercises on the internet? Then I can use the Khan videos to learn, and do the exercises on paper.


On July 17 2011 18:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 14:23 Arnstein wrote:
Just wanted to bump this. I've done all the exercises on Khan Academy now. I really hope they make new ones soon, as it's not really hard stuff there yet.


Why do you learn this? Is it because it's interesting to you? What appeals to you the most from your learning experience so far?

If you want to try something a little bit more complicated and theoretical (but also more fun, at least for some people), try Lay's Analysis: with an Introduction with Proof, which has most of the theories behind single variable calculus, and a little bit of topology...



Because it's interesting, and also because I'm going to start studying to be an engineer. I can't play guitar anymore(or StarCraft) because of my back, so I want to become an engineer. I'll check out that Lay's-thingy.

Thanks for the link Saracen.
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McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
July 17 2011 16:34 GMT
#28
Here's a link with a ton of free math textbooks. http://people.math.gatech.edu/~cain/textbooks/onlinebooks.html.

Most of them are fairly high level but you might be able to find something that's useful. If you're going into engineering you'll need calculus/linear algebra at some point anyway.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 17 2011 16:42 GMT
#29
Nice, thanks!
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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 17 2011 17:26 GMT
#30
The MIT OCW stuff is good at the basic levels but the notes get worse and worse as you go further into analysis-land. Don't expect to be able to read the more advanced Numerical notes unless you've already seen a numerical textbook once before or something.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 17 2011 20:18 GMT
#31
Alright, thanks people!
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