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Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
December 09 2010 22:02 GMT
#1
Don't we all hate people who bitch about you behind your back? It's worse when they do it right in front of you:

I'll just describe a little back-story so it all makes sense. A girl and two of us guys are in what seems like a love triangle (I've already gone out with the girl, so yeah...), but its not that obvious to most people. Two of my friends notice that the other guy (lets call him C) is always trying to flirt with the girl (I won't call her my gf since it's still early). It is also pretty obvious that I'm getting close to her.

So there we were, my two "friends", the girl, some other friends, and myself, just chatting and chilling. For the whole night, the two of them had been giggling and whispering to each other. After a bit of alcohol, they got a louder and less politically correct (we're Chinese, so we don't say sensitive things so directly). They think they're real smart and shit, to know about our "love triangle", and they're curious who the girl prefers.

To test their theories, they subtly start talking about C (the other guy) and constantly ask questions about him, to get the girl's response. After a while, they change the topic and start talking about me (right in front of me), to elicit some responses from the girl again. Every time she says something, they laugh to themselves. This is one of those times you really feel like punching people up. Even a deaf person could hear what they were insinuating, but they think they are oh-so-clever talking about us while we remain fucking ignorant.

A few minutes later, C shows up. Why? Because the two "friends" called him to join us. And not so subtly this time, one of them says, "Oh, I think he came cause he missed someone." Again, they start giggling to each other, like the retards they are.

The thing is, we are all in this group of friends, and it's unfeasible to make enemies with "friends" who are also friends-of-friends. To be honest, I would really love to stab him in the back to appease my anger, but you kind TLers will probably discourage me from doing so (I hope!). So instead, I choose to rant here and maintain healthy relationships with everyone.

And just to clarify, I really just hate one of the two "friends", since the other is playing along mostly due to peer pressure. Mind you, this was not an isolated incident (or the influence of alcohol); he rudely mocked another friend of ours before on several occasions, and he didn't even bother to hide it.

TL;DR: Some people are despicable.

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Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1937 Posts
December 09 2010 22:11 GMT
#2
What you are describing are not "two faced" friends, you are describing immature douche bags, and it would be much better for you to not hang out with such people and save yourself a lot of anger/frustration.... From the sounds of it are you like in middle school or something? That was the last time I can remember anyone doing something like what you described the two guys doing.
the REAL ReSpOnSe
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 22:24:52
December 09 2010 22:11 GMT
#3
That's fucked up.

I don't think it's a good idea to act out of anger. I think it is, however, a good idea to let them know exactly how the fuck you feel about it. Behaving like that is bullshit.

Edit for clarity: Don't rage at them while they're doing it. When you've collected your thoughts, decide how to handle it. Obviously they aren't your friends. Friends don't do that kind of shit.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
December 09 2010 22:13 GMT
#4
Sounds like you're taking a passive-aggressive approach. Don't do that. Just tell them that you don't appreciate what they're doing that and stop being friends with them if they don't. I mean, sure, he can be a friend of a friend, but you don't have to get along with him.
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 22:15:02
December 09 2010 22:14 GMT
#5
On December 10 2010 07:11 LazyMacro wrote:
That's fucked up.

I don't think it's a good idea to act out of anger. I think it is, however, a good idea to let them know exactly how the fuck you feel about it. Behaving like that is bullshit.


This is pretty much the worst possible way to react to this sort of behavior. This is exactly what these guys want you to do, try to get a reaction out of you because they think its funny. Your best option is to ignore it completely to save yourself a lot of embarrassment.

*edit* at least not in the situation, afterwards when everyone has sobered up may be a better time, but the best thing to do is not associate yourself with them anymore
the REAL ReSpOnSe
FalconPunchsc2
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada91 Posts
December 09 2010 22:17 GMT
#6
This is why i dont "try for girls" i invite girls out and stuff but thats all
if they want me so bad to date they can get to know me. but id never fight for a girl over friends. and if my friends do try that. they arnt my friends lol
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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
December 09 2010 22:22 GMT
#7
On December 10 2010 07:14 Response wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 07:11 LazyMacro wrote:
That's fucked up.

I don't think it's a good idea to act out of anger. I think it is, however, a good idea to let them know exactly how the fuck you feel about it. Behaving like that is bullshit.


This is pretty much the worst possible way to react to this sort of behavior. This is exactly what these guys want you to do, try to get a reaction out of you because they think its funny. Your best option is to ignore it completely to save yourself a lot of embarrassment.

*edit* at least not in the situation, afterwards when everyone has sobered up may be a better time, but the best thing to do is not associate yourself with them anymore

Er, I may have come off the wrong way. I don't mean he should rage at them and clearly give them the reaction they want (as you said). I'm saying he shouldn't be taking that shit as obviously they're not his friends.

Basically, I agree with what you said, only you said it more clearly. >.>
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
December 09 2010 22:42 GMT
#8
Sounds like your friends know you and your buddy are in puppy love with a slut and you are oblivious!

Well, maybe not slut by normal standards, because you're Chinese and your version of a love triangle is three people sharing the same booth in a night club... but I guess that's kind of slutty too???
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 23:11:15
December 09 2010 22:42 GMT
#9
lol your friends really blow, real friends would never do that

it sounds like theyre good friends, and just fucking with you lol
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 22:55:28
December 09 2010 22:46 GMT
#10
Relax and take a step back. You're getting very worked up about issues that are out of your control. The girl will decide who she wants to be with (hasn't yet) and you will decide if you want to be with her (when she makes it clear). You can bypass all of this by manning up and taking her to a dinner and a movie. Maybe dancing, maybe something fun thats going on in your town. The important thing is you're making your intentions clear. And she'll decide if she wants to come along. It takes effort knowing these things, and this is where your energy should be spent.

Other things to consider: Hows your education coming along? Is there something you could improve upon, like finishing reports? How are you financially - do you have cash or would an extra job make a difference? If it would - then start looking for one. How is your fitness and do you need to focus more effort on that? What would you do if you started getting serious with a girl - what kind of dates would you guys have. What are some special things you could do for a girl regardless of who she is? I know this sounds dry and mechanical - and every girl is different. The most important thing is the connection between you two. But you are free to take responsibility to make your time together a bit more personal. And it's a great way to strengthen a relationship, whether it be friendship or romantic.

Thats just some ideas on what you can spend your precious time thinking about instead of getting frustrated by your "friends". I'm sure they have a nice core, but they sound misguided. And you probably shouldn't worry too much about the love triangle either. There are other girls in the world. And there are much better friends out there who value you and your time. Until then, make due with what you've got. There is such a thing as "bad relationships" where people are disrespectful and abusive. You should try to minimize these in your life. I hope there are positive things about your "friends" and hopefully you guys can get along and have fun together. And I wish you the best of luck with your life, no matter what happens with the girl.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2010 22:52 GMT
#11
Those aren't friends. Those sound like peers. People throw the word 'friend' around so much that it's gone out of style.

Don't hang out with them anymore because they aren't worth your time.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
December 09 2010 22:59 GMT
#12
Everything would be perfectly fine if those two "friends" were girls. I thought they were girls the entire time until you said "he" at the end. Girls giggling about love triangles is perfectly normal. Guys not so much. Next, you're gonna tell us they are fans of Twilight.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 23:23:10
December 09 2010 23:21 GMT
#13
Am I the only one that, if they were loud, would have just acted cocky/confident/douchey in return?

Aka: "Well of course she prefers me" etc. Especially if she's drunk. As I say it give a little douchey smile or wink and chuckle. If you're not actually going out with her, there's really not much wrong with what they did, short of them being immature. But they aren't OMGWTFTWOFACED. Just immature. You need to act like such petty BS doesn't phase you. Because if this phases you, you're going to have a lot of trouble in the future with women I presume.

EDIT: just read the post above mine, didn't realize they weren't girls either. Since when the fuck do guys "giggle." That could change the situation, and they just went from immature to retarded. Get new friends, agreed. If anything they should be wingmanning you, not pushing the other guy into the situation.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 09 2010 23:49 GMT
#14
Rated 1
Don't get friends and then complain about them.
Why did you stay around and listen to that bullshit?
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ShaSKiRa
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia344 Posts
December 09 2010 23:54 GMT
#15
This story remind me of the Song Weddring Dress by Taeyang

Similar story i mean ...
I love FlaSh :) He gonna PWNED ALL OTHER RACE
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 09 2010 23:57 GMT
#16
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where the asian girls at the nail salon talk about Elaine and giggle at her but she doesn't speak Korean so she can't understand them.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
December 10 2010 00:00 GMT
#17
just stay away from dudes that get drunk. only shit happens with drunk people. nothing good ever comes from them >.<
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 10 2010 00:01 GMT
#18
On December 10 2010 09:00 MisterD wrote:
just stay away from dudes that get drunk. only shit happens with drunk people. nothing good ever comes from them >.<


Some of the most fun times in my life have been when drunk and with drunk friends. You are highly mistaken.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 10 2010 00:15 GMT
#19
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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
December 10 2010 00:27 GMT
#20
Next time you see him, steal a small thing from him like a hat or something. Go to his house when no one is around to "return" it and then chloroform him. Drive him to an abandoned location on the outskirts of the city and cover a room in plastic sheeting. Before he wakes up, take off his clothes and tape him to a table, put up pictures of you, the girl, and guy c above him. When he comes to, he will probably ask you whats going on so tell him that his treatment of you 3 is unacceptable and it can't go on. He will most likely agree to your terms but he's just bullshitting, people like that don't change. Grab your trusty 8 inch blade and stab him in the heart. Clean up will be a bitch but i'm sure it will be worth it. If you're near a body of water you can rent a kayak or something and dump the parts out at sea. Problem solved, your friends will all be happier.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 10 2010 00:29 GMT
#21
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gotlucky
Profile Joined May 2010
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 01:06:54
December 10 2010 01:05 GMT
#22
On December 10 2010 09:27 ZeaL. wrote:
Next time you see him, steal a small thing from him like a hat or something. Go to his house when no one is around to "return" it and then chloroform him. Drive him to an abandoned location on the outskirts of the city and cover a room in plastic sheeting. Before he wakes up, take off his clothes and tape him to a table, put up pictures of you, the girl, and guy c above him. When he comes to, he will probably ask you whats going on so tell him that his treatment of you 3 is unacceptable and it can't go on. He will most likely agree to your terms but he's just bullshitting, people like that don't change. Grab your trusty 8 inch blade and stab him in the heart. Clean up will be a bitch but i'm sure it will be worth it. If you're near a body of water you can rent a kayak or something and dump the parts out at sea. Problem solved, your friends will all be happier.


Hey Dexter, let me know where you live so I know not to go there.
rkffhk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 01:13:04
December 10 2010 01:10 GMT
#23
Delete Facebook.
Stay in your bedroom.
Play Starcraft every day.

We're the only friends you really need.

Maybe you could date Nova. I'd say Kerrigan, but that dude Raynor's got the hots for her, even though it makes no sense when considering the entire storyline.
"Did not realize gold was such an important threshold for people, I guess I honestly take it for granted that if people practice / invest enough time into this game then they would make diamond in no time." ~Caihead
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
December 10 2010 01:23 GMT
#24
On December 10 2010 07:11 Response wrote:From the sounds of it are you like in middle school or something? That was the last time I can remember anyone doing something like what you described the two guys doing.


The shocking thing is that I'm actually in university.

This wasn't really a blog about a girlfriend, but about "friends" >.< I think I need to be more selective with my friends; it has only been 3 months since the start of the semester (of my first year), so I was picking up as many acquaintances as possible. Now may be a good time to keep the good friends and lose the bad ones.

As for the girl, no she's not slutty, she's the perfectly nice and conservative type of girl. It's just the other guy who tries to chat her up. I feel there's a huge cultural gap in how Chinese date girls, compared to everyone else here, so I'm not going to ask for advice. Wish me luck instead!
Same difference is not an oxymoron!
zzaaxxsscd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States626 Posts
December 10 2010 02:48 GMT
#25
Chinese girls don't seriously date much in college, it's just big group activities with guys and girls, kind of like what you are describing

yes, be more selective with your friends. and don't think about girls all the time
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 10 2010 02:56 GMT
#26
Its really common here :3
Sucks.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 10 2010 03:10 GMT
#27
On December 10 2010 11:48 zzaaxxsscd wrote:
Chinese girls don't seriously date much in college, it's just big group activities with guys and girls, kind of like what you are describing

yes, be more selective with your friends. and don't think about girls all the time

They must come from a different China than the one I'm thinking of
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 10 2010 03:14 GMT
#28
On December 10 2010 09:27 ZeaL. wrote:
Next time you see him, steal a small thing from him like a hat or something. Go to his house when no one is around to "return" it and then chloroform him. Drive him to an abandoned location on the outskirts of the city and cover a room in plastic sheeting. Before he wakes up, take off his clothes and tape him to a table, put up pictures of you, the girl, and guy c above him. When he comes to, he will probably ask you whats going on so tell him that his treatment of you 3 is unacceptable and it can't go on. He will most likely agree to your terms but he's just bullshitting, people like that don't change. Grab your trusty 8 inch blade and stab him in the heart. Clean up will be a bitch but i'm sure it will be worth it. If you're near a body of water you can rent a kayak or something and dump the parts out at sea. Problem solved, your friends will all be happier.

I thought I was reading one of Baller's posts until I read your name =[
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
December 10 2010 06:44 GMT
#29
They are not "two-faced", rather, they are just plain immature.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
December 10 2010 13:30 GMT
#30
so im curious what you define as 'going out' with this girl
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Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
December 10 2010 14:32 GMT
#31
On December 10 2010 22:30 Hawk wrote:
so im curious what you define as 'going out' with this girl


I assume he's gone on a date/went somewhere with her before.

Dude, just drop those guys. I realized they were guys from the very beginning, but couldn't figure out why they giggled, because that's just weird. But, coming back to the main point, those guys aren't friends. Hell, they aren't even acquaintances by my standards. They're just the immature douchebags that you see on the street trying to drive faster than everybody to make themselves feel superior.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
December 10 2010 15:56 GMT
#32
you sure they're your friends?
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 10 2010 16:41 GMT
#33
On December 10 2010 12:10 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 11:48 zzaaxxsscd wrote:
Chinese girls don't seriously date much in college, it's just big group activities with guys and girls, kind of like what you are describing

yes, be more selective with your friends. and don't think about girls all the time

They must come from a different China than the one I'm thinking of


Yeah I'm thinking of a China with many, many barber shops.

I say catch them in an alley after one of their bouts of drinking and beat the tar out of them with a big green bamboo stick. Try to have another friend with a camcorder record the whole thing, wailing, bone cracking and all. Then make them strip, hug each other, maybe some necking, and tell them if they ever try to do some little giggle shit again, you are going to upload the vid on vikki/youku/tudou and then invite all the "friends" to comment on it.

I did like the other guy's suggestion about the 8 inch blade though. Pretty hilarious, especially the line about "these types of people never change."
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
December 10 2010 16:53 GMT
#34
Laugh in their faces because you have a girl and they are socially awkward so they don't?


^
Pro-tip right there.
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
December 10 2010 21:21 GMT
#35
Think of it as a strategy game for social life, if you don't know the strategies, or know what to look for when scouting, or have the proper mechanics, you get screwed. If you do, you get to outplay people and they qq/rage quit, it's awesome.
Dess.JadeFalcon
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
December 10 2010 22:18 GMT
#36
easy and obvious solution: don't hang out with those people. it sounds like they suck
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 22:36:14
December 10 2010 22:35 GMT
#37
Bang girl

Show pictures of said act to other guy

Smoke a cigar.

Walk off with sunset behind back.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
December 11 2010 01:02 GMT
#38
this whole incident really isn't a big deal at all... no need to go on tilt, friend.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
December 11 2010 01:49 GMT
#39
Tell that douchebag you think he's a douche bag and if he doesn't change his behavior you are going to fight him.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 11 2010 02:20 GMT
#40
Take his pencil box when he's not looking and snap all of his crayons.
vinn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia112 Posts
December 11 2010 02:25 GMT
#41
On December 11 2010 11:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
Take his pencil box when he's not looking and snap all of his crayons.


Dude... that's harsh.

But yeah are you sure they're your friends? O_o
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Never.Die
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan189 Posts
December 13 2010 02:50 GMT
#42
Should've called them out on their shit man and stood up for yourself. Instead you just stayed quiet about it. That's a no-no.
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