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ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
October 26 2010 08:23 GMT
#1
Hey guys.

So I've been reflecting a lot about what I need to do to improve my play, and I realize that at my 1600-1700 (im actually only 1500 but I only play people with that many points) Diamond level that my biggest issue is macro.

You see, as a Zerg player, I actually think I've been spoiled into easy macro mode. Now, I know everyone says Zergs mechanics are the hardest, and I ruining this is undeniably true, but the thing about Zerg that I've found is that you can get away with absentmindedly floating money, and then just spend all of it at once with your larvae.

Some people see this in high level games and say its intentional, and for the pros, I'm sure it is, but in my case, I just forget. I realize now that if I ever tried to play P or T, I would just get stomped, because my macro sucks.

Anyone have any good ideas for helping me improve ky macro abilities?

*
On my way...
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
October 26 2010 08:28 GMT
#2
Whenever I'm playing, I get this nagging feeling that grows gradually to a noticeable level every 10 seconds or so. Even if I have no minerals, it makes me go back and look at my production buildings.

I think I started getting it when I forced myself to just macro, macro, macro, and spend maybe 1% of my time deciding where to attack ground with my army. After which I scaled back the macro just enough to let me micro a bit.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
October 26 2010 08:39 GMT
#3
Do you guys think it would be beneficial for me to just play a bunch of games against the comp and macro to 200 repeatedly?
On my way...
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
October 26 2010 08:42 GMT
#4
like BottleAbuser said. I've also forced myself to just pay attention to macro. I just 1a2a (sorry no 3a ) and always keep my production going. The past 40 games or so I haven't been able to get over 1k minerals since I always spent it. Once you do this you'll realise how big of a difference this can be for your play.

Most new people will say something like my macro is decent or something of a like but then when I obs I see them being so bad forgetting to keep producing for minutes long. The majority probably doesn't even know what macro is and just keep saying macro without knowing what it is

The best way to improve is just force yourself to macro mode. Just keep your screen at your hatcheries and just 1 time get your army to 1a2a3a to the opponents army and focus on macro again by looking at hatcheries right away for whole games long.

Macro is a huge deal but most people really don't realise this even though macro is much easier now than in BW (yea I tried BW just before sc2 retail and it was like trying to climb the Himalaya after you just practiced climbing a 10m wall ><). People will find excuses or try to improve new things rather than their macro which really is bad for their improvement.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
October 26 2010 08:45 GMT
#5
On October 26 2010 17:42 shannn wrote:
Macro is a huge deal but most people really don't realise this even though macro is much easier now than in BW (yea I tried BW just before sc2 retail and it was like trying to climb the Himalaya after you just practiced climbing a 10m wall ><). People will find excuses or try to improve new things rather than their macro which really is bad for their improvement.


Reason I play SC2 more than BW is because I can actually macro and do well in this new game.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
October 26 2010 08:55 GMT
#6
On October 26 2010 17:39 ryanAnger wrote:
Do you guys think it would be beneficial for me to just play a bunch of games against the comp and macro to 200 repeatedly?

It could help but better to try it out on ladder. Since you won't really focus on army.

On October 26 2010 17:45 neobowman wrote:
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On October 26 2010 17:42 shannn wrote:
Macro is a huge deal but most people really don't realise this even though macro is much easier now than in BW (yea I tried BW just before sc2 retail and it was like trying to climb the Himalaya after you just practiced climbing a 10m wall ><). People will find excuses or try to improve new things rather than their macro which really is bad for their improvement.


Reason I play SC2 more than BW is because I can actually macro and do well in this new game.

hehe yea I can understand that :D and I think many BW players might think the same.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
October 26 2010 12:43 GMT
#7
On October 26 2010 17:45 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 17:42 shannn wrote:
Macro is a huge deal but most people really don't realise this even though macro is much easier now than in BW (yea I tried BW just before sc2 retail and it was like trying to climb the Himalaya after you just practiced climbing a 10m wall ><). People will find excuses or try to improve new things rather than their macro which really is bad for their improvement.


Reason I play SC2 more than BW is because I can actually macro and do well in this new game.


You were not that bad in BW bowman?
I pwn noobs
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
October 26 2010 14:19 GMT
#8
Play other races from time to time in custom games. Gaming with no pressure of result with much weaker opponents feels like a vacation. It also allows to understand other races weaknesses better, as well as the strenghts of your race.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 26 2010 14:55 GMT
#9
You can also watch your replays and just focus on your hatcheries. Note when your larva starts to stockpile and then check what you were doing during that time. You can even write down each incident if you think that'll help. Over time you'll understand when you let your macro slip and can start tightening up your play.
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