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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 22 2010 21:13 GMT
#1
No this is not a rantblog (technically it is) and no this is not an emo look at life. This is my life, my life it is. I shouldn't take anything for granted, I know that, 1 billion people do not have the comfort of a home or food on a daily basis. Also, I am going to exaggerate very much. So yeah here goes:

Boring and underwhelming. My life feels like this all the frickin' time. Maybe a little clarification on my side is somewhat valuable. I am going to be very personal right now.

My name is Ensar and I live in the Netherlands. My native language is Turkish, and both my parents come from there. I was born in the Netherlands and I am 15 years old. My parents had a divorce when I was 12 years old, my father beat my mother up quite often. Me and my sister still visit my father and I sleep at his house sometimes. School sucks, I really REALLY hate it. It is fucking boring, so many stereotypes walk those halls, everybody is so pretentious it creeps me out and there are only groups and no interesting individuals. Thank God I have two very good girlfriends (friends) Mara and Iris (no im not gay lol). I love Starcraft: Brood War with all my heart, it makes me happy, just happy. FlaSh is my favourite player of all time. Just his playstyle, appearance, his everything, damn I love that guy he is my idol. Maybe because I want to be like him so much. FlaSh started his career on his 15th and I am 15 so yeah. Th Problem is I have no money to buy starcraft 2 and a new computer cause my current one is not good enough. Even if I had a good enough computer for sc2, my mother wouldnt let me play for more than 2 hours a day because of school hurpadurp. I am currently playing brood war competitively but I suck at it, although I have watched the brood war proscene since my 13th so yeah I am putting my hopes in sc2 to become a pro. And no this is not a childish dream, this is my future. I AM GONNA BE A PROGAMER IN SC2. To buy a new pc and sc2 I need money, I have a job at a grocery store, a really crappy job and I do not like the people working there, and do not like my bosses.

And I know some poeple wont understand my situation and go like: dude get a gf blabla, lol my self esteem is low and i have not yet hit puberty (awkward stage pre-) and I rarely getg happy from anything these days, only starcraft is what i think the most awesome thing ever, and I lurk tl for a hour a day or something? TL is awesomesauce, great community and I just wanted to get this off my back cause my mother and sister call me crazy because i wake up on saturdays and sundays at 6 in the monring (shitty european times) to watch live proleague but its fucking worth it. IT IS FUCKING WORTH EVERY SECOND. Oh and i think swearing makes me look cool on the interwebz. And I dont like this kind of communicating because i feel like if you dont know ME than you cant understand me at least i hope the opposite. Well that was it I think and oh yeah getting really low grades at school (dont think im dumb, school system is different in the netherlands) and i think im not going to pass this year but yeah im seriously considering dropping out of school and playing sc/2 nonstop if i have it to become a progamer, I will become a progamer, RECOGNIZE BITCHES :p.

so this has helped me how? lol


**
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 22 2010 21:13 GMT
#2
sorry for my grammar and interpunction, english isnt my first language
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
October 22 2010 21:17 GMT
#3
Stay in school. Get good grades.

This is the only advice I will give you and I know you will not follow it.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 21:23:01
October 22 2010 21:19 GMT
#4
Endure, life gets better with every year, growing up is da bomb.

Edit: Stay in school, but realize that you dont need to get a huge degree to have a good life, construction/carpentry are pretty neat jobs too. Also, keep practicing SC2, with a good mindset and pretty much anyone who can really devote himself to it can achieve greatness.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 22 2010 21:21 GMT
#5
But I mean why should I? I know what I want to become and I don't fucking need a buffer, I want to emigrate to South-Korea at some point so yeah... And I'm pressured by my father to go to college because he never went to college so it's an undescribed rule that I hae to go to college at some point. And I don't really care about school anymore no, Oh and I have concentration problems I cannot learn for school, really weird. Can learn just fucking vocabulary, I just can't.
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
October 22 2010 21:22 GMT
#6
.. have u played sc2? i get the feeling u havnt played it... its no broodwar to say the least
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 22 2010 21:22 GMT
#7
@ catch: sarcasm much?
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
October 22 2010 21:22 GMT
#8
school.
MC Fighting!~
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 22 2010 21:23 GMT
#9
@ entertaining, no havent played it once, gonna play it with a classmate who has the game, but ive seen many many vods
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 21:25:59
October 22 2010 21:25 GMT
#10
On October 23 2010 06:23 KTF_CloaK wrote:
@ entertaining, no havent played it once, gonna play it with a classmate who has the game, but ive seen many many vods


lol. Seeing "many many vods" doesn't mean a thing. What was your rank on iccup for BW?

I saw your profile and I don't think you can tell the difference between loving to do something and loving to watch something. I don't think Boxer ditches practice to watch proleague.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
October 22 2010 21:28 GMT
#11
You sound like a normal 15 year old. Hormones can be a real fun thing at your age.
Hi
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 21:29:00
October 22 2010 21:28 GMT
#12
Lol, maybe you are right but sc2 is more casual I feel and I really want to give it a shot and be a progamer I definitely think I have the willpower and discipline (disregarding the concentration problems at school) and im really really determined I like soith korea more than my own country lol (turkey) and the culture is so bad-ass and ofcourse starcraft :D
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
October 22 2010 21:33 GMT
#13
have u even been to south korea...?
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 22 2010 21:35 GMT
#14
No dude why?
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
itzme_petey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1400 Posts
October 22 2010 21:38 GMT
#15
Get some exersize. Go run for 1 mile everyday. The endorphines help stave off depression. Things start to work themselves out from that point.
"Last night, I played a game.. as I recall it was a strategy game.. Peeked around and what did I see, a girl playing starcraft better than me.. and I jizzed in my pants.."
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 21:39:00
October 22 2010 21:38 GMT
#16
you wont be capable of going pro unless you get training at ur age. Otherwise it takes a guy who is 18yrsold+++ who thinks outside the box constantly. im being dead serious :D
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
October 22 2010 21:41 GMT
#17
thats why i am saving up :D and i can run but i am kinda chubby and do not have such a great condition, can you get endorphines from riding a bike too?
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
October 22 2010 21:44 GMT
#18
you can do it! good luck man, practice every chance you have and make sure your mechanics are perfect. Just be patient and You'll get your pc and SC2. Don't watch too much sc, its a trap, playing is more important.

Make sure to keep your parents calm so they don't kick you out.

Also make it to university or college, then you can do the easiest thing possible that takes like one hour a day to get decent grades in and just play SC2 all the time.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 22 2010 21:45 GMT
#19
when I was 15 my grades suffered but I'm a fucking bad-ass player for Counter-Strike in 2001 (winning all the major tournaments = making cash at this age) but I was so fucking dumb because all I can think of is counter strike 24/7 (to the point, I can't answer who the hell is our national hero)

Good luck with it, you'll become the best in a fantasy setting but IRL you might suck big time.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
October 22 2010 21:47 GMT
#20
The older you get (as a guy, it's different with ladies ^^), the better everything else gets.

Don't worry, you'll know what I mean when you are 20 yo and in college.
Deluge-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States117 Posts
October 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#21
You don't need to just run. You can go out and play sports, run around with friends, etc. Just be active ^^

Anyways stay focused in school. Every young person who is involved with games dreams to be those top programmers but only a few make it that far. And by a few I mean not even 1% of the people make it that far (probably a wrong estimate ) School is by far a better way to make your life better than it is right now. Just find something you like other than ... games. But if you really want that programmer life then by all means go for it. But just don't give up on all other aspects of your life, i.e. school, health, etc.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
October 22 2010 21:53 GMT
#22
How many of these kids have said they have the "drive and discipline to be a progamer" ?? IF you cant even concentrate in school there is no chance in hell you can have the "discipline" to be a progamer. Not to mention that should not be a goal unless you are already REALLY good at the game.

Someone asked this before, what was your BW rank? If you werent even B or B+ Its gonna be pretty fucking hard to suddenly "rise above" all the other nerds that spend too much time on a video game.

On the other hand you have time and young age on your time. Being 15 will make you able to catch on to things quickly, especially games, but you may not have the maturity or mind to be the best.

Im only 19 but im a junior in college pursuing engineering because I have the mind for it and the drive as well. When i was 15 there were so many things I wanted to be, mainly a touring musician and and professional basketball player but i dont have the virtuoso skills or height/skill for those things so i did what Im good at, solving problems with math and observation...

Just because you "set your mind to something" doesn't mean you can do it because you need to be naturally good at the things you capitalize on..

Do games come naturally to you or are you just a bored kid with SC as your only form of entertainment?

on a side note: You dont know shit about life so think twice before you disregard school because its "lame" or "boring".. Life is full of shit you dont want to do but have to.
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 22 2010 21:54 GMT
#23
Unless you find yourself subconciously trying to kill yourself every other day you are still doing fine. Just keep smiling man, it ain´t getting any better, it´s just bullshit.
World is full of unhappy people, being yourself and smiling like a troll is the way to go.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
October 22 2010 21:57 GMT
#24
Work hard at school.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 22 2010 21:59 GMT
#25
On October 23 2010 06:47 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
The older you get (as a guy, it's different with ladies ^^), the better everything else gets.

Don't worry, you'll know what I mean when you are 20 yo and in college.



hahahaha the older you get... Happy Birthday DwmC!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 22:30:20
October 22 2010 22:21 GMT
#26
I don't know if you are just having a hard time expressing yourself because of your English, or if you are having a nervous breakdown.
On October 23 2010 06:17 rushz0rz wrote:
Stay in school. Get good grades.

This is the only advice I will give you and I know you will not follow it.

This is what I wanted to say to you.


Do you honestly not have fun with your girl friends? You say that only Broodwar is fun. Broodwar is fun, but while you may like the game, the game does not like you back. You should realize this if you're spending a lot of time thinking about and playing the game (seems like you are since you want to become a pro-gamer).

Becoming a pro-gamer isn't easy. Not everyone can do it. Lots of people want to, but most don't have the skill or time devotion. Then you're big for a few years, making an average salary (if you're lucky enough to get the job in Korea) and then you're fired. You have no useful talents because you dropped out of school and you have to work at a grocery store again.

Go to college, get a degree at a local comm college, get a good job.


I'm sorry for your childhood. I can't change how you've grown up. I know that If I give you the advice to stay in school and do well, you won't blindly listen. But I truly believe this is the best thing you can do.


Talk to your girl friends.
Talk to some of the foreigner pros on here.
Please. It's the least you can do.





edit:
can you get endorphines from riding a bike too?

Yes, the other poster said that endorphines come from exercise. I ride my bike in a figure 8 next to my school's buildings when I get depressed.

If you are serious about SC2, I wish you the best of luck. You will need it. In college, some majors and colleges are really easy. You can get by with a day of work every week, leaving you 5 days to practice, 1 day to hang out with friends.
CosmicAC
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States238 Posts
October 22 2010 22:35 GMT
#27
You only think that people at school are boring because you haven't had a chance to get to know them yet...trust me on this. Give school a chance. At least everybody is human and at least the majority of humans are complex and not two dimensional.
To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master.
Wyred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
October 22 2010 22:55 GMT
#28
It's interesting juxtaposing this thread to another one on TL about the two Chinese girls studying under the street lamp. Same advice my theater teacher gave me: "Don't be a victim of your circumstances." Be who you want to be, don't let your situation deny that. However, if you want to become a pro gamer, you must have a backup plan and not go into that business with blind faith in your skills. School is boring to everyone else too ,but try to find something interesting at least. I was bored all through my educational career until biology seemed a bit fun.
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
October 22 2010 23:14 GMT
#29
On October 23 2010 06:48 Deluge- wrote:
You don't need to just run. You can go out and play sports, run around with friends, etc. Just be active ^^


do martial arts
and/or weight lifting
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 22 2010 23:18 GMT
#30
My one piece of advice, is to listen to the advice that older people give you- especially your parents. It took me waay waay to long to figure that out.
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 22 2010 23:26 GMT
#31
Just get good grades, be cool with people and enjoy high school. I don't see much merit in trying to reinforce your position as an outcast by being crazy about a pro-gaming career. Are you currently like top 5 in iccup or are you almost as good as the people you see on VODs? If yes, then perhaps, a big maybe, you should try to participate in one of those international contests to get your name known. If not, just know there are thousands more of people just like you...
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 22 2010 23:33 GMT
#32
Drop out of school. No progamers are taking school while playing. Even Jaedong only attends some bogus online school.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 23:35:45
October 22 2010 23:34 GMT
#33
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
October 22 2010 23:36 GMT
#34
On October 23 2010 08:34 travis wrote:
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.



Telling a 15 year old to be "true to himself" is like handing a baby a paintball gun, it may not kill it but he could shoot his balls off or something..
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 23:56:36
October 22 2010 23:38 GMT
#35
On October 23 2010 08:36 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 08:34 travis wrote:
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.



Telling a 15 year old to be "true to himself" is like handing a baby a paintball gun, it may not kill it but he could shoot his balls off or something..


riiiiiight

anyways i think it's our own job to find out how inexperienced and unwise we are

we shouldn't be told that's the case and then to just do what the other person tells us

if you want to take advice from your elders that's fine(they do know a lot more than you!)
if you want to ignore them and do what you want that's fine to

just be good. mistakes are yours to be made

some of the most successful people ever completely ignored advice from their elders
pookychoo
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
October 22 2010 23:45 GMT
#36
the best advice i can give is not to worry, when u look back in 5 or 10yrs you will be like "lol, none of these things were worth any worry"

and get a good nights sleep! its hard to do, but its so worth it, i wish i didnt stay up so late all the time... you end up being drained and not having your full potential.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 23 2010 00:09 GMT
#37
On October 23 2010 06:28 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Lol, maybe you are right but sc2 is more casual I feel and I really want to give it a shot and be a progamer I definitely think I have the willpower and discipline (disregarding the concentration problems at school) and im really really determined I like soith korea more than my own country lol (turkey) and the culture is so bad-ass and ofcourse starcraft :D


Will you practice 14 hours a day, no, more than that, thinking of no other thing? Can you set aside everything else, and practice even when you don't want to, hell, even when your wrists don't want to because they are dead as shit from playing way too much? SC2 isn't casual. Nothing is casual when it is competitive. Doesn't matter if it is inherently easier than BW or not - these comparisons don't matter. What matters if you will put in more effort than you think you can. If you're going to play SC2 because it is fun and you like how it looks, and that's why, then just stop. Play it for fun - but don't dream of moving to korea and becoming a programer, because that's a huge step, a huge commitment. "Giving it a shot" is not how you would have to think of this. You'd have make it THE shot you give.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
October 23 2010 00:12 GMT
#38
On October 23 2010 06:41 KTF_CloaK wrote:
thats why i am saving up :D and i can run but i am kinda chubby and do not have such a great condition, can you get endorphines from riding a bike too?

Yep, just ride hard & long enough
If you have to ask, you don't know.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 00:25:49
October 23 2010 00:20 GMT
#39
i can regularly play games 14 hours a day (high school, even uni at times, and summer) without fatigue.
Doesn't mean jack shit unless you have nothing in life preventing you from playing, because once u stop for a bit, you fall behind everyone else( which is impossible without dropping out of school),

progamer= high risk , low reward, possibly 0 reward

- Are your parents rich? if not,

- If you played BW for 2 years and you're not at least B-

- Would you mind working at a fast food restaurant? if not,


... Go study. you have absolutely 0 chance of becoming a progamer with no backup plan because your studies suck. (high school isn't hard)
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 00:43:44
October 23 2010 00:41 GMT
#40
I was disinterested in school at your age.

Now I'm sitting around waiting to ship out to basic training for the U.S. military while my friends are having fun in college, partying it up and worrying about their grades while I'm sitting here with the possibility of a tour in Afghanistan and the responsibility of an adult in the "real world."

Work hard. Or you'll regret it.


On October 23 2010 08:36 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 08:34 travis wrote:
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.



Telling a 15 year old to be "true to himself" is like handing a baby a paintball gun, it may not kill it but he could shoot his balls off or something..


HEY MAN SHOOTING YOUR BALLS OFF IS WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
October 23 2010 00:57 GMT
#41
you live in netherlands, smoke some weed man
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
October 23 2010 01:33 GMT
#42
You need to have something really shitty happen in your life at some point, to shock you into realizing "fuck, this is not what I want to be/do". The shock won't happen at that moment, it'll take some time, but it'll happen. I know a bunch of people (myself included) who have had that happen.

For me, a couple of shitty things happened when I was 14. I was such a wreck at the time that a psychologist wanted to have me put into a mental institute (I pretty much told him to fuck off when he asked me to voluntarily submit myself, he threatened to forcefully admit me to it, I called his bluff, and it ended there). I ended up dropping out of high school, drinking, smoking weed, heavier drugs, promiscuous behavior, a really shitty job, and more within a short period of time.

One day, when I was 15, I woke up and was like "fuck this, I don't want to live like this anymore. I want to do something awesome with my life".

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I went back to school and graduated with some pretty decent grades (I'm an underachiever, I'll only really do what's necessary to get by, but it's a hell of a huge step up from dropping out). I played on our high school football team (while I had a cast on my arm from breaking it in the first game) when we went to the provincial finals, a feat that no school in our area had ever done, and we were 0-6 the year before. I was the unchallenged captain of the Chess club, which was pretty cool when I led my club to it's first victory (and a demolishing one at that) in a city-wide tournament in over 10 years, against a lot of odds. I've done some awesome things that are definitely not safe for posting on here (I've gotten into some trouble, but it was oh so worth it). When I no longer could play, I helped the coach out, so I got some experience behind the scenes of a football team, which has helped me tremendously since then. I also came up with my own method for solving rubiks cubes of any size, that is roughly as efficient as a standard beginners method at solving a 3 by 3, and actually gets more efficient than traditional methods when the cube gets larger, to the point that I was able to solve a 20X20 in an hour and a half, with an inferior version of my method, whereas if you search for videos on youtube of people using it with traditional methods, it takes them hours, and several thousand moves, more than my method, plus it has no parody errors, and is so freaking simple compared to the other methods. I got accepted into a couple of universities (waterloo was the only one to turn me down, even though they scouted me for their football team), and picked the one I knew that suited me the best. I ran the SC team for the CSL last year, and we made a run for the Eastern finals, which was something I totally did not expect to happen. I had the opportunity to learn a lot about Football when I tried out for the university team, and I'm glad I was cut during training camp, because I couldn't have done the work required for that as well as my school work, and been content with my university experience. I applied some of this knowledge now that I've been helping coach a home-town football team for a younger age group, and it is an awesome feeling to share some of your knowledge with the younger generation (especially since I was always a relatively small player, I had to play it smart and I had to use good technique to keep up, unfortunately, when you're 50 lbs lighter than the 2nd smallest guy in training camp at university, and these guys are smart, and they use good form, you're pretty much fucked, so I do know a lot about my football), as well as helping the coach out, and seeing how much they all actually appreciate it. Now I've started (with the help of someone else) a Starcraft club in our university (as well as running the team again this year), and we're planning on expanding it to other e-sports, as well as trying to get competitive status (and we have a good shot at getting it next year, which is a big deal, because even our mens soccer team does not have the competitive status and they have been doing really, really well in provincial tournaments). I've also helped shape the direction that the student society of my faculty is headed in. Being a frosh guide this year was a fucking blast. And I've done more things that I definitely can't post here, that have been soooo worth it. IMO, I've done a lot of awesome things in the last 7 years (I'm 22 now, and in 3rd year university). And I'm sure I've missed a bunch of things as well.

The thing is, I wouldn't have had the desire, or the willpower to do any of this, if it hadn't been for something "waking me up". I'm not sure how else to describe it. But because of this, I'm a firm believer that "you are the sum of your past experiences". I wouldn't be who or where I am now if it wasn't for that. And I've seen this same type of thing from others as well, so I know I'm not alone when it comes to this type of relatively sudden behavior change.

Maybe you're having that "wakeup call" right now. If that's the case, you need to pick a direction you want your life to head in (obviously one that makes sense) and go make it a reality. But, as a suggestion, the direction you go should involve some kind of education past high school. Whether that be a trade college, university, an apprenticeship, whatever, it will help you so much in the long run, because you will be able to get a more stable, successful, rewarding career. Also, any kind of post-secondary education will give you amazing networking opportunities.

But you need to get out there and do stuff. I know that I wanted to do nothing more than play Gran Turismo during my time where I wasn't working, getting drunk, or getting high at your age, so I know the feeling you have for Starcraft (especially since I was actually really good at any racing game and won some tournaments at the time). I've barely touched the game since then (although I know I'll play GT5 when it comes out, it's too bad it was delayed again), and I can definitely say that my life has been much better because of it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with playing games, don't get me wrong, but when it gets to the point that it affects other parts of your life, you need to take a step back and re-evaluate the situation, especially since you won't naturally realize gaming is hurting your situation, not helping it, because of how it makes you feel good at the time but consumes the rest of your life in the process.

GL, and go do something kick-ass as well!
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
October 23 2010 02:04 GMT
#43
You should always follow your dreams; work at the store for just a couple more months/years and save up, then buy a new computer and a ticket to korea and practice until you are one of the best players. If you're not doing that great in school right now and you also don't have an interest in it anyways, you should just focus on your goals and dreams. Afterwards you can become a commentator or a coach or something. Anything is possible as long as you put your mind to it. GLHF
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Galois
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 07:05:55
October 23 2010 07:04 GMT
#44
On October 23 2010 06:21 KTF_CloaK wrote:
But I mean why should I?


in the movie called the twilight samurai there is a scene where the uncle of the family visits from far off. he sees that the father is making his daughters go to school and the uncle tells the father off in front of the children, saying that education has no purpose in the real world.

later that night the older daughter asks the father why is education more important than the money that she could better spend her time helping his father weave baskets to get them more money to help the family.

i think his response to that would be a good answer to your question

i tried skipping through the movie on youtube to find that part, but i must've missed it. i think you should look at it.
It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you / There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 23 2010 07:21 GMT
#45
Becoming progamer or not, first thing first. At least finish you K-12 education with good grade. Get some SC2 along the way ofc. Then if you decide to go for progamer life, starts at 18 years old is not late at all.
If you kicked your education right now to go into SC2...later you may end up with nothing.
And waking up @ 6AM to watch PL is COOL, pls keep doing that
Terran
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 09:15:20
October 23 2010 09:11 GMT
#46
On October 23 2010 08:38 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 08:36 Hypnosis wrote:
On October 23 2010 08:34 travis wrote:
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.



Telling a 15 year old to be "true to himself" is like handing a baby a paintball gun, it may not kill it but he could shoot his balls off or something..


riiiiiight

anyways i think it's our own job to find out how inexperienced and unwise we are

we shouldn't be told that's the case and then to just do what the other person tells us

if you want to take advice from your elders that's fine(they do know a lot more than you!)
if you want to ignore them and do what you want that's fine to

just be good. mistakes are yours to be made

some of the most successful people ever completely ignored advice from their elders


I'm going to have to agree with Travis here. Personally, I'm in a place in my life, where I'm not happy in the slightest, and I can attribute nearly 90% of my unhappiness to doing something that I did not want to do (join the military). I joined because I was pressured by my parents, and society in general, and just did what everyone told me to do.

Had I followed my dreams, and did what I wanted, I would be in a much happier place right now, even if I was dirt poor, and for now (at least the next 4 years) I have to deal with the unhappiness.

So, long story short. Do what makes you happy, first and foremost, and if you have any doubts, talk about them with someone you trust, who isn't going to give you a biased answer.
On my way...
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
October 23 2010 11:57 GMT
#47
Stay in school, get good grades, wait until you're 20 and hopefully off to college and life's going to be a blast. Hang in there!
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bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
October 23 2010 13:09 GMT
#48
Ah, to be 15 again! Best advice I can give you is to simply keep at it, life will throw everything at you but it's all worth it.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
October 23 2010 14:36 GMT
#49
Don't sweat it dude! Life gets better and better as you grow up. I'm a couple months a way from my 18th. As awful as it feels, awkward pre-pubescence does go away. It's some terrible cosmic joke that a good chunk of guys go through most of highschool in this akward phase. Thats okay though because college! lol.

Keep with the games if they make you happy. Follow your bliss man
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
October 23 2010 14:43 GMT
#50
Time to man up ! u have a job n1 ! you will stop hate school when u will get better marks u dont have to learn a lot home just have fun and learn everything in school its easy mode. If you cant learn math how do you want to count minerals ? :D
do something for yourself, go run maybe try to have fun with your friends?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 23 2010 17:10 GMT
#51
If you've got a job, can't you save up for a computer + SC2? My first job was shitty as hell too, (at a pizza joint, like 10 years ago) but having income so you can buy yourself nice stuff is so good.

I respect your desire to rise to greatness as a progamer, but stay in school, really. What if you DID drop out and dedicate 8h/day to gaming, and didn't make the cut? D:
SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
October 24 2010 01:12 GMT
#52
this is my future. I AM GONNA BE A PROGAMER IN SC2


This is where gaming becomes addiction for the average teen. Stay in school. You won't regret it.
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 24 2010 01:19 GMT
#53
I am sorry but you seem to represent what has become of the kids nowadays, people with plans/dreams of achieving something while having no motivation/willpower/mindset to do anything.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
October 25 2010 10:45 GMT
#54
My advice would be to focus everything else you do onto SC, if you're really that much into it. Think about how stuff you do will give you a benefit in competitive gaming.

For example:
-Get a good night's sleep. Waking up at 6am is perfectly okay, but you have to go to a bed a little earlier to make up for it (getting preferably about 8hrs of sleep, perhaps even more. I needed almost 9 hours every night when I was your age (I'm 25 now) ). If you're rested and not tired, your brain will function better and you'll be more focused. You'll get more out of wathcing replays, catching details and so on, and you will remember build orders/counters/whatever better.
Moreover, if you regularly wake up at 6, it might be a good idea to wake up at 6 every day, so you'll get a regular rhythm.

-Start to work out. If you're in good health, you'll perform better in SC. You'll get better stamina, so that you'll last those 45+minute matches better. Or just imagine a Bo5, going to five matches, two of them stretching 45 minutes. You're looking at 2,5 hours of gaming. If you want to perform your best, you need to be in really good shape. Also, working out can be combined with SC too. Like jogging or bicycling on the spot, in front of the monitor, watching Day9 or whatever. Or you can get outside and listen to SC podcasts or plan build orders or whatever while running.
Also, as others have mentioned, you'll produce endorphines, which will make you happy. Not kidding. State of mind is not only what you think in your mind, it's what kind of hormones and substances your body is producing. If you work out, your body will produce happy-substances and you'll be happy.
Also, you said you were kind of chubby. Don't know to which extent that is, but be aware that if you go from chubby to fat, you'll start having fat inside your blood vessels, clogging up your precious flow of oxygen to your brain. And you need that oxygen to make fast and good decisions in SC. Working out and eating healthy food will help you become better in SC.

-Don't drop out of school. What you learn there is actually important. You need math in order to understand SC. When your Korean coach shows you a graph, you need to be able to understand it. You need to understand diminishing returns, percentages and probability calculations as well as geometry and simple physics. Moreover, learning those things will precondition your brain to learn other things, so that you'll learn new, SC related stuff, easier.
You'll need to learn foreign languages and grammar, so that you'll be able to pick up Korean more easily once you move there. Knowing what a subject, object etc in a sentence is, might be curcial for learning Korean fast. Also, reflecting upon Turkish might be a very smart thing to do, as it's so different from Dutch and English. Knowing a couple of so different languages might help you to learn Korean.
All history and society lessons are important. As you'll be moving to a different country with a different culture, knowing how society works and knowing history may help you to understand human behaviour, see the similarities and differences in Korean and West European culture and make you adapt to Korean society more easily.
And keep in mind that learning in itself is valuable, as it's teaching you to learn. Of course, if you never learn from your playing, you'll stagnate and never become a progamer. So learning how to learn is important.

-Also, keep in mind that Korean culture is very different from West European culture. Koreans are not as straight forward and don't say things as explicitly as Europeans, so don't neglect your social skills. Continue to hang out with your girl friends, as girls too, often say something else than they mean Moreover, human interaction (as opposed to sitting alone in front of the computer) will often lead to a better quality in life. Also, Koreans value education very highly. Not going to university is inthinkable to most Koreans, and you're thinking about not even going to high school...

All this can be seen as training for your Korean progaming career. But then consider this:

Some of the refugees from North Korea, the most oppressive country in the world, in which every house has a propaganda radio and they're 10 cm shorter than their southern brethren because they don't get enough food, some of those refugees, actually voluntarily go back to North Korea because they couldn't fit into South Korean society! There's chance you might just not be able to fit in, and get so miserable over there that you want to go back to the Netherlands. What then, if you don't have any education? Doing all-ins is okay in StarCraft, because there's always another game, but doing all-ins in life is very, very risky. And dropping out of school is an all-in manoeuver. Don't do it. But keep gaming while at the same time working out, going to school and hanging out with friends. And try to get the most out of every minute you do. Then, you can move to Korea as soon as you've finished high school, or perhaps even try to get a stipend and take high school in South Korea. Then after having completed high school and having spent a couple of years gaming in Korea, if your progaming career doesn't work out, you can still go to university or something.

That's my advice.
LoStYouRSkiLLS
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia223 Posts
October 25 2010 12:28 GMT
#55
Get drunk and actually have fun, rather than 'life is boring' and doing nothing about it.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 13:19:36
October 25 2010 12:55 GMT
#56
solid advice from a fellow dutchman: work hard and get good grades and go to HBO / universiteit, get a scholarship that's easy as shit to pay back and enjoy the rest of your life doing a satisfying and fun job

if you're bored just join a 'studentenvereniging', don't fuck up in high school or it will haunt you the rest of your life

DO NOT DROP OUT

also, Flash got good grades during his progamer career, he never completely left school as i understand it, if you aspire to be like him just play in your spare time and see how far you get

On October 23 2010 09:57 zazen wrote:
you live in netherlands, smoke some weed man


the guy is 15 years old, only fucking losers smoke weed at that age here

On October 23 2010 11:04 blue_arrow wrote:
You should always follow your dreams; work at the store for just a couple more months/years and save up, then buy a new computer and a ticket to korea and practice until you are one of the best players. If you're not doing that great in school right now and you also don't have an interest in it anyways, you should just focus on your goals and dreams. Afterwards you can become a commentator or a coach or something. Anything is possible as long as you put your mind to it. GLHF


Do you people even realize that your retarded advice can ruin lives or something? In Holland you're NOTHING without an education, instead of encouraging him to follow some path to ruin you should tell him to grow up like we all did.
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