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Hello, I am 15 and I live in the Western part of New York State. I am almost 16, and gonna get a job soon. But my parents want me to go to college and do something. But I am not amazing at school. I am good at social and terrible at math. Ok at science and good at English. I like playing sports but I also love spending hours and Hon, star craft 2 and soon WoW Cataclysm. I don't play any school sports cause I know I am good enough but to lazy to put the effort. I have a media class where we film stuff and put it on TV. Our school has its own PEG channel in the Western New York area. I really enjoy doing that and Directing videos.
From where I live their is not any jobs. My brother is unemployed and looking for a job. When I get out of High School I have no idea what I want to do.
Im a 1050 diamond Zerg. I keep practicing and maybe someday hope to be good. I am 1800 PSR at Hon. I'm good at games I practice. I was at 1800 in WoW arena when it mattered.
I decided to post this on TL because a lot of you are older and have figured out what to do. My dream is to do something that effects people in E-Sports. Maybe you TLers can help me out.
TL;dr READ IT I TOOK MY TIME! 5(Minutes)
  
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Go to college. In the shot run, its a pain in the as, but once you get a diploma, it opens up oppourtunitys (Plus by then there may be job openings).
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On October 20 2010 11:09 TheWarbler wrote:
good at English
Really?
Anyway, go to college. It's the sensible thing to do. It may be boring, but it's worth it.
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Go to college. That's my plan. Hopefully by the time we get our diplomas the economy will be out of the shithole and there will be more job openings.
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You gotta go to college nowadays man. And even if you do, there's no guarantee you'll get a good job
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I would probley have to go to NCCC which is what my brother went to for 2 years. He said its basically like highschool, but he wants to go back but its hard here any other places. Cause you have to pay for college car and have a job all at the same time. I know Im not gonna have a scholar ship.
What I am probley gonna do is do boccie's(I cant spell it) But in 11 and 12th grade you leave school on a bus each day and go learn like a trade or something. It earns you a degree or certificate.
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On October 20 2010 11:11 57 Corvette wrote:
Go to college. In the shot run, its a pain in the as, but once you get a diploma, it opens up oppourtunitys (Plus by then there may be job openings).
If your parents can pay for your college, you should at least consider going there part time to see if it's for you. It's not like you need any more Math classes in college... unless if your major requires them.
Also, does your brother have a college degree? If he doesn't then you should know how hard it is to get a job in your area without a college degree. Right now IMO the best choice is to go to college for 4 years and hope that when you graduate, the economy will be better. Tons of my friends have elected to go to grad school after their bachelor's because the economy is so shitty.
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On October 20 2010 11:17 Khenra wrote:Really?
I was not thinking hard when doing this. One of our core classes is ELA. English Languish arts. Its commonly refereed to here as English not the language but the class.
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Go to a community college if you're not into it. Start from there.
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Even though I want to do something involving eSports, my intuition tells me that the chances of it happening are pretty slim, so I'm still taking courses to act as insurance.
You probably qualify for a scholarship already and just don't know it. Or at least that's what people told me.
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College. Esports can get you somewhere if you're top 50 in the world, college can get anyone somewhere. Community college if you can't get into a public school, or if money's an issue, but the experience is better at a residential place imo.
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you love media work? get into that. look at day9 and tasteless, two gamers who also got into media. now they are ridiculously efamous and get work opportunities broadcasting major SC2 tournaments.
you have the advantage of being young and can make a name for yourself now, and can add things to your 'psuedo resume' if you want to get into a good media program. who knows you might get a scholarship. its good you are thinking about it now. google around to see if there any scholarships for media work and try to pursue them.
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Like everyone's said, college is the way to go. You need a college degree to do just about anything these days, and you can take a whole bunch of random and interesting classes that could really open up new possibilities for you.
Also, there are collegiate leagues for StarCraft 
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Zamboni driver, ultimate dream job.
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do you have enough money to go to college?
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I would make the games your hobby, and try to get the best education you can, and go to college. Honestly, if your a 1050 zerg now, I don't think you have much of a chance of making money off of starcraft 2 any time in the near future (next 3 years). I don't want to discourage you, and I'm not saying to quit, because its an awesome game, but play it as a hobby. I'm an 1850 diamond zerg, but I don't expect to be able to make a cent off of starcraft 2 for at least a year, maybe I'll be good enough then, but for now, my plan is to play in my spare time, and put school first.
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Community College is easy. Easier than high school. It is more than worth it.
If you find that you're better at school than you thought you were at the community college, continue on. If not, you have a degree that will let you make a lot more money than if you hadn't done it.
EDIT: another benefit of staying in school is you're pretty much exempt from any military draft if we had one!
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You have to continue education after high school. Nowadays, high school diploma gets you nowhere unless your family has strong connections to large unions.
Gaming is good and all, but try to keep your grades at a minimum of B (or 75) across all subject areas. I wouldn't go for part-time jobs just yet if it's going to interfere with your school performance or your health (being overworked). If your family can't support you for college, you can always try to apply for student loans. Part-time jobs are easier to get once you're in college (depending on your schedule).
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Go read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=116530
it's a shameless plug, but I put a lot of thought into it and I think it will help you a ton. Basically do whatever you want to do. At some point you are going to have to sit down and think about what you really want. To be honest the best way to do that is to work a ton of different jobs. If you weren't really happy working one summer, the next summer find a job doing something completely different. For instance, I thought I wanted to work with computers and shit, turns out I hate it. College also isn't for everyone, but it is for most people. Don't not go to college unless you are 100% sure you don't need to go. Yeah you can go later, but it gets harder to motivate yourself the longer you wait.
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What about video game journalism?
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Haha, that sounds like me. This is probably the advice you would get all the time, but its just so true.. Do whatever you passionate about and what you like to do, just remember that nothing good in life comes easy.
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Move to Korea and become a SC2 progamer.
Clearly it is the only sensible thing to do.
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Go to college and take a bunch of different classes to see what you like. I'm sure you'll find something you love to do, like possibly designing video games, or reviewing games, or something like that. And since you mentioned there weren't many jobs where you live, try going to college in a different city. It's always a great experience. If you want to influence eSports, you should start small and see how you do, like maybe start a Starcraft club at your high school.
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Get a job at gamestop.
for the next 20 years
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Get up and join a sports team. Seriously. You say that you like sports, and I'm sure that you will always love sports. Not only is it fun, but you get to meet many people that you wouldn't have otherwise met. Furthermore, go to college, and not some garbage commuter school.
Work hard and it will pay off in more ways than you can probably even imagine. Try to fix your laziness problem. Laziness (sloth) is bad and it will never be beneficial to you ever. If you put your mind to it and try hard in whatever - be it sports or studies or whatnot - you will find that you will eventually get rid of your laziness - at least to an extent.
Anyways, to sum up... join a sports team, study and get into a decent college that has a good college atmosphere. Follow your interests. I'd also limit the amount of time that you spend playing games, but that may be a bit much.
- You also sound a bit egotistical... I'd try to get rid of that if I were you. Sure, be confident in your skills, but don't grow an ego. Nothing good comes out of an ego. -
edit: I would wait off on your dream to become big in the e-sports scene. Wait a few more years and then ask yourself if that is really what you want to do.
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At least do community college for awhile, and if you enjoy doing your major or whatever, then transfer into a real University. You really don't need to be very good at math to get by with most majors, including business (though you may need to take a calculus class once, but probably never apply it in your major)
Also - you can still play games in college and still do well. It won't be the end of the world.
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ESPORTS requires a 4-year degree.
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On October 20 2010 13:22 SonuvBob wrote:
ESPORTS requires a 4-year degree.
i actually think there are degrees in ESPORTS in korea.
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As soon as you are 16 you are no longer required to go to school by law, so at that time drop out and pursue a career in pro-gaming.
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Thanks for the help guys. I really appreciate it.
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Go to college my friend. You need to have an extremely good reason to not go to college.
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Wow lol this sounds like me 5 years ago....
College is a must do these days. I just graduated a with computer science degree(focus in media and usability). Working a pretty easy testing job as a contractor at microsoft, and spend my free time playing Starcraft/Tennis.
Despite the job market not being so good, and thus me having a lower paying job than I was hoping for, it doesn't really matter to me much. I have enough money to support my hobbies, thus I am happy.
As far as school goes, im not that great at math, I took up to Calculus 3 and various statistics courses, barely scraped by in those :D
For you and really for anyone pursuing a degree, I would really recomend something that has a technical aspect... As those jobs are usually higher paying and more stable... Being a CS major Id recommend CS, as I find it pretty easy to just be kinda lazy at and still succeed, but that is just me and I know CS is not for everyone x_x.
Also you mentioned you live in an area that is low on jobs. That right there is even more reason to pursue education. Also College is so fun man, I wouldn't miss out on that experience for a million bux, honest.
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Try to take some time off games. It really lowers your overall motivation and energy levels if you don't manage it well which most people don't.
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On October 20 2010 12:04 Hikko wrote:
Community College is easy. Easier than high school. It is more than worth it.
lolwut?
I did my first year and a half at what might be considered a community college and it was a huge wakeup call as to how much more difficult post-secondary studies were over high school. I've seen quite a lot of people drop out first year. Perhaps the US is different or you attended an exceptionally soft college (or difficult high school).
I would recommend a technical program to anyone who isn't academically inclined. Wages (at least in Canada) have been rising in many tech-school fields as more people have ambitions of high-tier jobs than the economy can support.
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On October 21 2010 09:30 3clipse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 12:04 Hikko wrote:
Community College is easy. Easier than high school. It is more than worth it.
lolwut? I did my first year and a half at what might be considered a community college and it was a huge wakeup call as to how much more difficult post-secondary studies were over high school. I've seen quite a lot of people drop out first year. Perhaps the US is different or you attended an exceptionally soft college (or difficult high school). I would recommend a technical program to anyone who isn't academically inclined. Wages (at least in Canada) have been rising in many tech-school fields as more people have ambitions of high-tier jobs than the economy can support.
Looking back, I guess I had a lot more rigorous work in high school than most people, and I was more than accustomed to staying up all night for projects, sacrificing entire weekends for school work, and working during classes that weren't as serious (currently, lecture classes) on other classes that I felt deserved my attention more while somehow managing straight A's while playing sports as well >.>
It sounds like a crazy lifestyle on paper, and probably is, but it is extremely fun--by easy I mean that community college is manageable. It is a wake up for people that just took it easy in high school, but compared to AP classes it was a nice ride for me.
Still, Community College is a much better route for _anyone_ these days. You can't even work as a bag boy around here if you're a high school drop out, and with just a high school degree it's about the only job you can get.
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On October 20 2010 11:09 TheWarbler wrote:
Hello, I am 15 and I live in the Western part of New York State. I am almost 16, and gonna get a job soon. But my parents want me to go to college and do something. But I am not amazing at school. I am good at social and terrible at math. Ok at science and good at English. I like playing sports but I also love spending hours and Hon, star craft 2 and soon WoW Cataclysm. I don't play any school sports cause I know I am good enough but to lazy to put the effort. I have a media class where we film stuff and put it on TV. Our school has its own PEG channel in the Western New York area. I really enjoy doing that and Directing videos.
From where I live their is not any jobs. My brother is unemployed and looking for a job. When I get out of High School I have no idea what I want to do.
Im a 1050 diamond Zerg. I keep practicing and maybe someday hope to be good. I am 1800 PSR at Hon. I'm good at games I practice. I was at 1800 in WoW arena when it mattered.
I decided to post this on TL because a lot of you are older and have figured out what to do. My dream is to do something that effects people in E-Sports. Maybe you TLers can help me out.
TL;dr READ IT I TOOK MY TIME! 5(Minutes)
Why arent people flaming him for this. What an absurd statement to make. Your whole life is going to suck unless you put in the effort. Video game success isnt true effort because you already have experience with it and were successful in the past. However, playing sports or going to college is going to take alot of REAL effort since you have never applied yourself to the ventures.
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but to lazy to put the effort
This, above all, is the problem.
FWIW, I don't think that an undergraduate education is all that helpful to a good segment of people, especially those too lazy to do the work necessary to pass. If you're willing to put in the effort and sacrifice the time to get to where you want to be, you'll do fine. Cliche, trite, whatever. It is completely true.
My advice to you is simple: shape up, drop at least one of your game addictions, preferably two, and stay the hell away from the computer if you can't control yourself. You'll be surprised as to how much spare time you have. Time which you can use to be productive.
If you're really interested in making e-sports-ish videos, then put in the effort to find the people that can actually help you on that road. If you're not willing to do even that--I don't know what to say.
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Its not that im not willing to put the effort to go to college but to figure out what I want to do.
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On October 22 2010 04:46 TheWarbler wrote:
Its not that im not willing to put the effort to go to college but to figure out what I want to do.
You're making the wrong choice if you don't even attempt college, and you won't ever make enough money to comfortably support yourself. It's worse if you drop out of high school to play video games.
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Id never drop out of highschool to play video games unless I had chance of winning a GSL.
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I don't mean to be rude, but you sound just like an average gaming kid. Unless you happen to get really good at a game, you should certainly go to college.
I'm 15 and live in manhattan.
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On October 20 2010 11:17 shieldbreak wrote:
Go to college. That's my plan. Hopefully by the time we get our diplomas the economy will be out of the shithole and there will be more job openings.
It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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