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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 22 2010 17:14 GMT
#1
So one of my really good friends knows i'm obsessed with starcraft and such. He's not nearly as hardcore as me or my roommate, but he'll occasionally watch games with us and he understands certain strategies and will comment when I play like "oh you only got 1 gas are you fast expanding?" or stuff like that. basic shit.

anyway he got insanely baked the other day and really wanted to help out my zerg, which has been lacking lately. everyone talks about how zerg is underpowered and such so i've been trying to devise builds that are solid enough to repel this notion.

but no matter what I do, i havent been able to come up with a good build to make zerg a viable race

that is

until now

+ Show Spoiler [invincible build] +
[image loading]


its so simple. how had i not thought of it before???

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Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
September 22 2010 17:17 GMT
#2
He wrote this when he was baked?
BW4Life!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 22 2010 17:18 GMT
#3
yup. thats how you know its viable.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9815 Posts
September 22 2010 17:18 GMT
#4
because you get hard countered by the doubly invincible build:

+ Show Spoiler [PvZ Doubly Invincible Build] +

8 pylon
11gate
11 dt
13 dt
15 pylon
15 dt
17 dt
19 dt


or you play vT. lol.
boomer hands
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
September 22 2010 17:18 GMT
#5
I like how the ultras are only one food.

But seriously, there is no way you could lose with that build
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
September 22 2010 17:19 GMT
#6
On September 23 2010 02:18 mOnion wrote:
yup. thats how you know its viable.


Epic. :D
BW4Life!
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9815 Posts
September 22 2010 17:20 GMT
#7
also, i'm pretending you're talking about broodwar and by "one gas" he meant one worker on gas. and by not viable you mean not auto-win
boomer hands
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
September 22 2010 17:21 GMT
#8
Looks like a solid build. I just think it gets countered pretty hard by the 9-tripple-starport10-fusion core-BC rush.

Btw. he forgot a second overlord :/
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 17:22:31
September 22 2010 17:21 GMT
#9
On September 23 2010 02:20 seRapH wrote:
also, i'm pretending you're talking about broodwar and by "one gas" he meant one worker on gas. and by not viable you mean not auto-win


of course its not bw did you even read the build?

how would you 10overlord in BW? TELL ME THAT

On September 23 2010 02:21 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Looks like a solid build. I just think it gets countered pretty hard by the 9-tripple-starport10-fusion core-BC rush.

Btw. he forgot a second overlord :/


extractor trick at every gas on the map. please don't comment unless you're 700 diamond.
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zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 17:24:04
September 22 2010 17:22 GMT
#10
The extractor trick? Sounds like a good bw way to 10 overlord
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
September 22 2010 17:22 GMT
#11
Ultra den with no hive? One food ultras? Count me in!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9815 Posts
September 22 2010 17:26 GMT
#12
On September 23 2010 02:21 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 02:20 seRapH wrote:
also, i'm pretending you're talking about broodwar and by "one gas" he meant one worker on gas. and by not viable you mean not auto-win


of course its not bw did you even read the build?

how would you 10overlord in BW? TELL ME THAT

extractor trick :3
boomer hands
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 17:27:36
September 22 2010 17:26 GMT
#13
On September 23 2010 02:22 garbanzo wrote:
Ultra den with no hive? One food ultras? Count me in!

Maybe those mini-ultras from the campaign though.

Edit: By the way, fast tech ultralisk might actually be a viable counter to T's who PF their second or third now....
3.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 22 2010 17:27 GMT
#14
On September 23 2010 02:26 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 02:21 mOnion wrote:
On September 23 2010 02:20 seRapH wrote:
also, i'm pretending you're talking about broodwar and by "one gas" he meant one worker on gas. and by not viable you mean not auto-win


of course its not bw did you even read the build?

how would you 10overlord in BW? TELL ME THAT

extractor trick :3


...
ban'd from blog
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9815 Posts
September 22 2010 17:28 GMT
#15
On September 23 2010 02:27 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 02:26 seRapH wrote:
On September 23 2010 02:21 mOnion wrote:
On September 23 2010 02:20 seRapH wrote:
also, i'm pretending you're talking about broodwar and by "one gas" he meant one worker on gas. and by not viable you mean not auto-win


of course its not bw did you even read the build?

how would you 10overlord in BW? TELL ME THAT

extractor trick :3


...
ban'd from blog

T_T
boomer hands
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 22 2010 17:32 GMT
#16
Your friend just broke the game, now Zerg has to get nerfed again.
Sup.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 22 2010 17:42 GMT
#17
i love the way the build order veers to the right a little bit.
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
September 22 2010 17:53 GMT
#18
On September 23 2010 02:32 dudeman001 wrote:
Your friend just broke the game, now Zerg has to get nerfed again.


Hahahaha.

If someone showed me a paper saying that you build a overlord, pool then mass ultras i'd laugh my ass off so hard. 10/5
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 22 2010 18:01 GMT
#19
On September 23 2010 02:53 KinosJourney2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 02:32 dudeman001 wrote:
Your friend just broke the game, now Zerg has to get nerfed again.


Hahahaha.

If someone showed me a paper saying that you build a overlord, pool then mass ultras i'd laugh my ass off so hard. 10/5


i laughed for like 3 minutes straight when he gave it to me lol
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
September 22 2010 18:31 GMT
#20
On September 23 2010 02:26 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 02:22 garbanzo wrote:
Ultra den with no hive? One food ultras? Count me in!

Maybe those mini-ultras from the campaign though.

Edit: By the way, fast tech ultralisk might actually be a viable counter to T's who PF their second or third now....


Those things are called pygalisks. They have 50 HP, 2 armor and deal 4 damage. I would think you'd need more than 15 of them to win a game.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 19:05:51
September 22 2010 18:54 GMT
#21
I tested it, works like a charm. Though I had to wizard up some of the build order, because I probably read it wrong. Where should I upload the replay?

Edit: actually, it would be extremely boring to view aside from rolling ultralisks.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 22 2010 19:05 GMT
#22
This is the best build order of all time. Your friend broke the game.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
September 22 2010 19:15 GMT
#23
NO SUCH THING AS ULTRALISK DEN

CANNOT GET PAST STEP 3 NOOOOOOO.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 22 2010 19:21 GMT
#24
On September 23 2010 04:15 wooozy wrote:
NO SUCH THING AS ULTRALISK DEN

CANNOT GET PAST STEP 3 NOOOOOOO.


rofl i totally missed that looool
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 22 2010 23:54 GMT
#25
How are you getting ultra den without gas? This build order is flawed...
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
September 23 2010 00:00 GMT
#26
What if i win before 27 pop?
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 23 2010 02:42 GMT
#27
On September 23 2010 08:54 Najda wrote:
How are you getting ultra den without gas? This build order is flawed...

Long distance mine from the enemy gas ofc
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
September 23 2010 03:56 GMT
#28
I posted this on Liquipedia II, hopefully it will go a long way into giving those Terran marauder abusing scrubs a taste of their own medicine.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Overpool_Ultralisk_Timing_Push

Overpool to Ultralisk Timing Push

The reasoning behind this build is very simple. Trying to take an expansion before you have Zerglings out to assist is very risky. If a Protoss decides to put a Probe in the way and micro it, it is very difficult to place your Hatchery down at a good timing. By getting Ultralisks early, you can safely ignore the probe and destroy his base.

10 Overlord
10 Pool
12 Ultralisk Cavern
13 Ultralisk
14 Ultralisk
15 Ultralisk
16 Ultralisk
17 Ultralisk
18 Ultralisk
19 Ultralisk
20 Ultralisk
21 Ultralisk
22 Ultralisk
23 Ultralisk
24 Ultralisk
25 Ultralisk
26 Ultralisk
27 Ultralisk

If you executed the build order correctly you should be able to push out with 15 Ultralisks at the 5 minute mark.

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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9815 Posts
September 23 2010 04:27 GMT
#29
i can't wait for people in the sc2 strat forums talking about how this isn't possible.
boomer hands
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 23 2010 04:43 GMT
#30
On September 23 2010 13:27 seRapH wrote:
i can't wait for people in the sc2 strat forums talking about how this isn't possible.

It'll be one of the first times that they're correct, at least.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
September 23 2010 05:01 GMT
#31
On September 23 2010 13:43 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 13:27 seRapH wrote:
i can't wait for people in the sc2 strat forums talking about how this isn't possible.

It'll be one of the first times that they're correct, at least.

It would be quickly refuted with various situations where it could be useful.
JinNJuice
Profile Joined June 2010
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 16:52:26
September 23 2010 16:52 GMT
#32
Actually, I think this will probably lose to the epic double observatory into 12 gate build.
Oh wait, wrong game.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
September 23 2010 17:10 GMT
#33
On September 23 2010 12:56 sluggaslamoo wrote:
I posted this on Liquipedia II, hopefully it will go a long way into giving those Terran marauder abusing scrubs a taste of their own medicine.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Overpool_Ultralisk_Timing_Push

Overpool to Ultralisk Timing Push

The reasoning behind this build is very simple. Trying to take an expansion before you have Zerglings out to assist is very risky. If a Protoss decides to put a Probe in the way and micro it, it is very difficult to place your Hatchery down at a good timing. By getting Ultralisks early, you can safely ignore the probe and destroy his base.

10 Overlord
10 Pool
12 Ultralisk Cavern
13 Ultralisk
14 Ultralisk
15 Ultralisk
16 Ultralisk
17 Ultralisk
18 Ultralisk
19 Ultralisk
20 Ultralisk
21 Ultralisk
22 Ultralisk
23 Ultralisk
24 Ultralisk
25 Ultralisk
26 Ultralisk
27 Ultralisk

If you executed the build order correctly you should be able to push out with 15 Ultralisks at the 5 minute mark.

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Featured article? PLZ!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
Basically, anyone dumb enough to believe this is real shouldn't even bother going on Liquipedia..... It should definitely be there. It's not like it would be misleading anyone with bad information, it's a joke.....
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Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
September 23 2010 17:17 GMT
#34
Your friend has just made the fastest possible tech to ultras :D omg :D
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
September 23 2010 17:19 GMT
#35
Uh excuse me brother but you can't have 16 ultras with only 1 overlord, Floyven!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 18:13:53
September 23 2010 18:12 GMT
#36
Do you get paid to troll?

"Let's get baked and write down awesome strats for SC2"

It may just be viable though.
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