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I sort of see where you're coming from, and I somewhat agree, but I simply cannot fully agree.
SC2 is a lot funner to play than SC1 in my opinion, being that I'm a decent player, but not a pro, therefore things like MBS/automine/interfaceupdates make it much more accessible. It's possibly a bit less fun to watch at the moment though, but I wouldn't say radically so. I'd imagine this will change some after people as a whole don't suck so bad at the game, but as of now it seems like there's a lot of neat micro stuff but hardly any epic macro stuff.
I blame the maps, the change of focus in gameplay, and people just simply being inexperienced, mostly. It's just so much more accessible for both the player and the viewer now.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
just wait till the real pros start playing
when boxer is doing some shit on tv that u never imagined then it will be fun
for now u must suffer thru the army blobs (agree w/ u on that point)
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On September 19 2010 16:06 Rekrul wrote:
just wait till the real pros start playing
when boxer is doing some shit on tv that u never imagined then it will be fun
I thought Nazgul was the one to do that !
I wish Sc2 expands towards whole Asia so we can get shemale pros on tv kkk ?
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What I hate is how siege tanks fire so quickly! In bw it was suspenseful seeing someone micro their goons back from tanks, wondering whether or not a 2nd or 3rd shot was going to go off or if they'd get the hell out of there in time! But maybe its an illusion caused by the shitty sound effects, coz tanks still do huge damage in sc2 dont they? (I dont play)
I'm absolutely sure sc2 will become far far, at least 2x better to watch with korean pros. Right now I'd rather watch Oscar build his PC than put on some sc2 vods.
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The only thing I agree with is that the sounds are "softer" compared to BW.
I've been having a blast following GSL and Tastosis commentary keeps me coming back for more. Just putting in my input as a fan who actually has been enjoying the SC2 scene. I really believe its just in its early stages now and it'll get better with time.
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On September 19 2010 15:44 KrAzYfoOL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 15:37 Ndugu wrote:I could never understand how people could watch a glitchy game with n64 graphics and call it a Sport and put it on TV. To each their own  To be fair, I think a lot of the "wow" stuff is going to have to come in expansions. We just have the basics atm. Is that because you're abysmally bad and can't interpret what's going on in sc1 or something? I find it hard to believe that you can't see the merit in sc1 as a spectator sport.
as soon as i see a comment like his i go to profile
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i think that speaks for itself really
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i feel exactly the same. i could waste hours every day watching live streams and proleague ect. with huge excitement but sc2 doesn't tickle me the slightest :\
i do play quite a bit though but it is also by far not the same awesome feeling
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Agreed on all fronts more or less. The detriment of visual clutter, and muted sound/graphical effects cannot be understated. I had the same problem with wc3. Stuff just doesnt feel as impactful. I dont know if it's technology-related or a conscious decision to muffle the sounds.
I am giving the mechanics and tactical wow-factor more time, so far it hasnt lived up to BW but we'll see. I feel blizzard simplified things to open up potential for crazy tactics, but then stopped without putting in mechanics for said tactics. Let's see what more time + pros can do to fix it.
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Canada6688 Posts
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Oh god everything in the thread is so true...also playing bw is so much more intense as well!!
The lack of imba units also make it boring, ie storm mines dark swarm plague...the obsession with balance makes everything so...boring....
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In my opinion it's because it's a bunch of no-names at the moment. Maybe it's just me, and don't get me wrong I love Brood War, but watching a game between two low class players in like the round of 64, or if it were GOM, round of 128, just doesn't entertain me. I mean sometimes there are amazing plays in those games, but when it's just standard play vs standard play and I don't really know/care about either player, it's really boring. Once the Starcraft 2 scene establishes itself and there are top tier players that are making a name for themself it will start to get more entertaining
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im too noob to play bw  so i decided to take the coward's way out and play sc2 instead
But i agree on every front. SCBW is just so intense because of the way the game is made. Every single mistake done could be game changing,such as forgetting to bring a control group of marine medic may lead to a lost skirmish, a misclicked storm with 6 templars inside meant that you wasted 5 storms for nothing.
That is why BW is so much nicer to watch. So much intense micro, its as though the unit itself came alive and is controlling himself(i.e vessels running from scourge when huge battles are coming while your vessels does a dive to irradiate any lurkers/ultralisks/defilers in sight.
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
those saying about starcraft 2 establishing itself and weeding out bad players, you guys are missing the point.
it's not about the content, it's about the how the game is delivered through its graphics and physics engine and whatever not.
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i really just think you haven't watched enough. I haven't had trouble with this since like patch 2
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United States7481 Posts
sound isn't an issue with an engine, that's an issue with casters not setting the proper levels.
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On September 19 2010 16:06 Rekrul wrote:
just wait till the real pros start playing
when boxer is doing some shit on tv that u never imagined then it will be fun
for now u must suffer thru the army blobs (agree w/ u on that point)
Rekrul speaks the truth once more.
do you think you would enjoy sc1 as a spectator sport in its first year? it was just rofl bad.
Trust me when i say that you will watch Nada's and July's GSL games next season. Right now people are REALLY bad at SC2.
The "top" players in the world do crazy mis micro and have like 100 energy on all of their ccs\queens\nexi ten minutes into the game.
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Seriously... the game is what, 2 months old? not counting the Beta. I promise you BW wasn't as exciting to watch back when it was 2 months old, you seriously need to give it some time.
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konadora you have to understand that you have been conditioned for many years by bw. all of the subconscious things like the background music and the death sounds have impacted you for years.
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Canada6688 Posts
On September 19 2010 16:44 konadora wrote:
those saying about starcraft 2 establishing itself and weeding out bad players, you guys are missing the point.
it's not about the content, it's about the how the game is delivered through its graphics and physics engine and whatever not.
blame the kespa-blizz-gretch ip war for that
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even if they set the right levels, the sounds just arent as cool... im missing that nice siege mode sound T_T
i too am interested to see how it evolves once there will be many pros playing... danger is that korea once again will own all and kill off sc2 in the rest of the world (altho personally i think that's fine)... but we'll c i guess...
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