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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 03:52:13
September 14 2010 21:47 GMT
#1
EDIT: I think the text should be fixed now!


After looking around for all of my saves, I realized I have spent waayyyyyyy too much time playing various Final Fantasy games.

While I am aware they exist, I play mostly without guides and I tend to learn to play the game myself. In my opinion, for a single-player game, all the fun of the game is about learning how to play it. There were some occasions which I got extremely stuck and had to resort to the internet for help - especially for FF7.

Note the spoilers contain a short description of how I managed the beat the game plus possible whinings. I try to minimize spoilers about the plot.

Final Fantasy 7 - ~30 hours
+ Show Spoiler +
Despite what others say, I think FF7 is not that great (maybe it's just too outdated by today's standard). It's very confusing; I often do not know where to go and waste a lot of time. There are also a lot of places which are simply annoying (such as the mansion in Cloud's memory). At the end, I got 2x Cut (later upgraded into 4x Cut), put it on Yuffie with a weapon that had no Materia growth, then just attack attack attack for 9999 almost every single hit....
My Cloud and Tifa just kept healing her, and I beat the game :D
I think I like Tifa the most in this game. But I really did not know how to utilize her correctly. At the end Yuffie did all of the work for me. V_V


Final Fantasy 8 - ~15 hours
+ Show Spoiler +
This game is the worst. I had to replay it a few times because I leveled up too much and got the monsters to be too strong. Although the real break for me was to figure out that certain Cards can be converted into powerful spells in early game (Water and Tornado). After learning that everything got way too easy.

It wasn't much later on that I realize Squall has 4 different limit breaks. I only managed to achieve the first one. LoL

Rinoa is cute.


Final Fantasy 9 - ~20 hours
+ Show Spoiler +
I really, really like FF9. It's very cute, and it has a system which I am familiar with (my first FF game is NDS-FF4), and it's reasonably difficult ... until I figured out that Auto-Regen completely breaks the game.

I really like Garnet as a character (I think her butt is cute >__< plz don't flame me on this...). However I never figured out how to use her correctly. Her summoning spells' damage are way too low (Vivi >>> summon). Also the summoning animation is WAAAYYYY TOOOO LOONNNG. At the end, with great pain, I had to ditch her and bring Steiner on instead.

Upon referring to guides after I beat the game, I realized that the final boss' HP is only 55k - a pityful amount.

Final Fantasy 10 - ~30 hours
+ Show Spoiler +
This game made me realize all of the years I wasted on games with inferior graphics. It's stunningly beautiful, and the storyline is pretty touching. All the charactersare voiced, too, which is a big plus.

While playing it I finally recognized where this beautiful video clip is from:



Mechanism-wise, the wait system is not bad. It allowsme to think carefully of what to do, although it does diverge from other FF-games quite a bit. I am generally OK with new systems (I even think FF8 is OK if it wasn't for the Card tricks)

I remember what bothered me the most about FF10 was the leveling up part. All of the characters are on this HUGE grid and I can move pretty much anyway I like, with certain restrictions. Since backtracking is not a good idea, for a very long time I was afraid to advance some of my characters - especially Kimahri and Auron. It was not much later that I realize (through repeated failures and frustrations at certain bosses, esp. Sin's arms) that Armor break from Auron is really useful and I needed to level him up. Well, back to grinding...

The real break for me was figuring out the toberries in the Omega Temple Ruin drops teleporting spheres. After finding and killing about 4-5 of them, I got enough teleporting spheres to be confident enough to advance my characters without worrying about screw-ups. After achieving Quick hits and the time spells with Tidas, I teleported him to Auron's side of the grid (with tons of +4 str, Armor Break, and Triple Foul) which made him into my first powerhouse. Then I managed to finally level up Lulu sufficiently to get Double Cast, then teleported her back to get Ultima (a bit more on this later).

For Yuna I was a lot more reserved. She went through all of the White Magic lines (got Holy, too) while side-tracked a little bit to get Steal and Use from Rikku's side of grids. I wasn't sure what to do afterwards and she ended up having 25+ moves left when I beat the game.

I was so disappointed at Rikku, though. I tried really hard to advance her, but her side of the grid got almost nothing. Originally I wanted to aim for Mug, then Ultima, but at the end I realized that her Strength and Magic are too low to use either of those. Sigh... worst yet my Yuna learned Steal and Use, so there was no room for my Rikku-chan in the party T_T

After having built some good characters I think I beat the game fairly easily. Although I could be a bit lucky - Jecht's ultimate shot killed my Yuna and Lulu at full health with Protection on while my Tidas survived with 20 hp - then I used megapheonix and continued on (I used Sentinel for Tidas because I knew Jecht's overdrive is coming and I was not sure how to react). That was the climax of my FF10 experience.


FF10-2 ~ 30 hours
+ Show Spoiler +

I think this game is not bad. Don't flame me >_<!

It's just.... so different from FF10. In FF10 the game waits for you to make decisions. In FF10-2, due to the combo system, I felt that I was often waiting for the right timing to throw a series of attacks.

Originally I used the trio's default setup (Yuna as Gunner, Rikku as Thief, and Paine as Warrior). Then I realized that it's really hard to synchronize their attacks because they react a bit differently - especially when Yuna's in Trigger happen and I was supposed to spam R1 AND control the other two at the same time. At the end I gave up and made everyone into a Gunner, which allowed me to beat the majority of the game. This made things a lot easier (just spam the X button), however I was still very bothered by the fact that Rikku's Gunner attack animation lags behind Yuna and Paine... although using Trigger Happy was a fun experience.

It was not later on that I discovered the Dark Knight dressphere (took me a LOOOONG while). Then I made everyone into a Dark Knight. Later on I spelt about 3 hours to finally beat Shinra and got the Lady Luck dressphere (go go double exp), leveled everyone to lvl 70+, then converted back to Dark Knight.

Unfortunately, near the end of the game there is a dragon-like creature (had to fight 3 times) which got like 200k HP or something like that. For that I had to train a White Mage from scratch (I chose Paine, for some reason... although I have to say she makes the coolest White Mage >_<) to spam Cura while Yuna and Rikku spam Darkness. Paine would run out of mana eventually and had to be fed Ethers....

May pain be my blade


After some extremely lengthy battles I finally beat those things and got to the final boss - and guess what, it was SOOOO easy. After 3-4 rounds of darkess, *he* fell and I won. The so-called "Terror of Zanarkand" was so laughable compared to Jecht's Shot.


Final Fantasy 4 (NDS) ~ 11 hours
+ Show Spoiler +

Come to think of it, this game is the harshest of all. The augment system allows no errors or you are screwed. Also it gave me great pain that many characters will leave your party and gone forever - but leaving powerful augments if you gave him/her some before he/she left. After getting too frustrated with poor augment choices (I gave Counter to Yang the first time), I decided to replay it. I think I was lucky - I gave Celia Counter and Draw Attack, and put him on the backrow. All of a sudden healing is extremely easy as Cecil can just defend while Rydia works her magic.

Rydia is cute at the beginning, by the way. But noooo they hhhaaaaddd to make her ggrrrooooowwwww upp. :'(

The rest were pretty easy. Although for the last dungeon I had to grind quite a bit.... but at the end my Cecil was way too powerful


I think I wrote too much already. I will keep the rest for later when I am bored/depressed

**
:]
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 14 2010 21:49 GMT
#2
hasn't even played ff6

1/5
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
September 14 2010 21:49 GMT
#3
On September 15 2010 06:49 FragKrag wrote:
hasn't even played ff6

1/5


I know it's a problem. I will play it eventually :D
:]
Xinliben
Profile Joined May 2009
United States931 Posts
September 14 2010 21:51 GMT
#4
This game is the worst. I had to replay it a few times because I leveled up too much and got the monsters to be too strong. Although the real break for me was to figure out that certain Cards can be converted into powerful spells in early game (Water and Tornado). After learning that everything got way too easy.

It wasn't much later on that I realize Squall has 4 different limit breaks. I only managed to achieve the first one. LoL

Rinoa is cute.


Maybe the problem is you are terrible

This game made me realize all of the years I wasted on games with inferior graphics


のフの
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada239 Posts
September 14 2010 21:52 GMT
#5
you like ffx2
you havent played fftactics or ff6

at least you are original
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
September 14 2010 21:52 GMT
#6
I was thinking about trying to beat all the FF games eventually. A while ago, when the Beta went down for SC2, I tried doing so. I beat

FF Mystic Quest 100%
FF2 (FF4) 100%
FF3 (FF6) 100%
FF5 50% done
FF7 25% ish (I know pathetic)
FF8 25% ish
FF9 100%
FF13 100%

Unfortunately I never had a PS2 to play #10 etc~!
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 21:55:38
September 14 2010 21:53 GMT
#7
On September 15 2010 06:52 ~_~ wrote:
you like ffx2
you havent played fftactics or ff6

at least you are original


I played tactics. I didn't want to write anymore because it got too long. I also played FF3.

As for FFX-2, I don't think it's *that bad*. But comparing to FFX it's obviously inferior.

Currently, I like FF9 and 10 the best. I have yet to play 12, 13, nor 6 (as some people suggested). I will see if there is a way for me to do it through emulation.
:]
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 21:54:54
September 14 2010 21:53 GMT
#8
I've played FFV, FFVI and FFXII only.

For me, FFVI is the best and no matter how good the others are, its the one I most played and enjoyed when younger.

For those who say 'Huh you missed FFVII the best ever', stop telling me that...

edit: 3/5 for not having played ffvi >
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 21:57:46
September 14 2010 21:54 GMT
#9
3/6 was my favourite and you should really play it. 7 is popular because it was the first in 3d. I like the music from 7 though(When it first came out so I could have been a bit young then) especially One winged angel. Great to see some FF fans out there though. :D


edit: The list

FF Mystic quest: 10%? It was lame
FF tactics: 50% got really hard to follow who was who.

FF6: 100% Loved it
FF7: 100% I beat it so...
FF8: 75% Never had time to finish it.
FF9: 0% Never finished 8 so I never bothered with 9 because of time.
FF10: 100% Was okay liked some of the new stuff.
FF12: 75% Was good until I ran out of time.
FF13: 0% Didn't buy it heard good and bad things about it.
Brood War forever!
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
September 14 2010 21:54 GMT
#10
nooo this just makes me want to paly FF9 again, but i dont know whom i lent it

sooo saf right now. it was the only singleplayer game i ever really played. and i loved it ^^
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 21:59:23
September 14 2010 21:56 GMT
#11
On September 15 2010 06:54 green.at wrote:
nooo this just makes me want to paly FF9 again, but i dont know whom i lent it

sooo saf right now. it was the only singleplayer game i ever really played. and i loved it ^^


If you put ethics aside, then you can just emulate it.

[QUOTE]On September 15 2010 06:51 Xinliben wrote:
[quote]This game is the worst. I had to replay it a few times because I leveled up too much and got the monsters to be too strong. Although the real break for me was to figure out that certain Cards can be converted into powerful spells in early game (Water and Tornado). After learning that everything got way too easy.

It wasn't much later on that I realize Squall has 4 different limit breaks. I only managed to achieve the first one. LoL

Rinoa is cute. [/quote]

Maybe the problem is you are terrible

V_V. I am terrible.... but FF8 is not that great.

I think the trick of FF8, besides knowing what cards to convert, is to keep your character at low health and spam Limit Breaks :D
:]
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 22:03:55
September 14 2010 22:03 GMT
#12
Theres a paragraph in your FF7 part that doesnt belong there Got edited out it seems

Just started playing FFX for the first time this week actually, I've played all 1-9 + 13 and tactics, but never played the PS2 ones >< So far it's good, yes. Good to know about the teleport spheres
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 22:05:23
September 14 2010 22:04 GMT
#13
Oh you think you've wasted time?

I've spent over ~400 hours minimum on FF7. Pretty sure I have more. Each file has around 60-70 hours completing it. Yeah, I love that game.

FF8 I've played through twice, hated it, awful magic stealing system and you're penalized for leveling up. ~80 hrs total.

FF9 I've played through at least 3x on 40 hrs each (came out within an hour each playerthrough almost :o !!!). ~120 hrs total.

FF10. Trying to capture all those monsters for that arena to beat all those crazy hard bosses that are over 100x more powerful than the last boss or any omega weapon. Never did it. 109 hours on my first file, 60 hours on 2 more playthroughs after that.

FFX-2: Mediocre game, beat it twice and one playthrough I skipped all unnecessary hotspots and could not beat evil aeons, namely shiva, so ~30 hours for each playthrough + 15 hrs on shitty skipping.

FFXII: Worst final fantasy ever, I think it was around 50 hrs of me asking myself when the gameplay was going to get fun. It never happened. TERRIBLE game.

PS. FFT was fun, played it after all others, probably another ~50 hours on it? Don't remember how long it was.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 22:10:23
September 14 2010 22:09 GMT
#14
"games too outdated"

except that FF6/7/9 are a million bajillion times better than all the shit being released today.

also i cannot believe you managed (read: forced yourself) to finish FF13.
starleague forever
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 22:19:28
September 14 2010 22:11 GMT
#15
On September 15 2010 07:03 CynanMachae wrote:
Theres a paragraph in your FF7 part that doesnt belong there Got edited out it seems

Just started playing FFX for the first time this week actually, I've played all 1-9 + 13 and tactics, but never played the PS2 ones >< So far it's good, yes. Good to know about the teleport spheres


That part was fixed. I am on a very old machine and I honestly do not know what happened.

If I was to replay FFX I'd build a better Rikku by teleporting her straight to Tidas' side, get Cheer / Quick Hit, then go to Auron's side for some awesome physical damage.

For almost the entire game I had to rely on Lulu for damage. Not that she is bad, but she does have low HP and it's quite a pain to keep her alive and kicking. I think if I just made my Rikku to be a "Tidas clone" I would have had an easier time.

Although I have to say I think my Lulu was the most successful. It was easy to figure out, too. Just go through most of the Black Magic nodes (Osmosis is also useful but it's so far away... I had to use a special Black Magic sphere to get it), get Double Cast, then get Ultima. I also got Osmosis for Yuna because she kept running out of MP. Perhaps I should have gotten it for Tidas too (or at least Lancet)

On September 15 2010 07:04 FabledIntegral wrote:
Oh you think you've wasted time?

I've spent over ~400 hours minimum on FF7. Pretty sure I have more. Each file has around 60-70 hours completing it. Yeah, I love that game.

FF8 I've played through twice, hated it, awful magic stealing system and you're penalized for leveling up. ~80 hrs total.

FF9 I've played through at least 3x on 40 hrs each (came out within an hour each playerthrough almost :o !!!). ~120 hrs total.

FF10. Trying to capture all those monsters for that arena to beat all those crazy hard bosses that are over 100x more powerful than the last boss or any omega weapon. Never did it. 109 hours on my first file, 60 hours on 2 more playthroughs after that.

FFX-2: Mediocre game, beat it twice and one playthrough I skipped all unnecessary hotspots and could not beat evil aeons, namely shiva, so ~30 hours for each playthrough + 15 hrs on shitty skipping.

FFXII: Worst final fantasy ever, I think it was around 50 hrs of me asking myself when the gameplay was going to get fun. It never happened. TERRIBLE game.

PS. FFT was fun, played it after all others, probably another ~50 hours on it? Don't remember how long it was.


Maybe there are more fun places for FF7, but I didn't study it too hard.

As for FFX, I tried some capturing, but I was not sure what to do with them, so I stopped after a while...

I never had problems with Shiva in FFX-2 though maybe I was too overleveled... for most parts of the game I just used the auto-regen accessory and 3 Dark Knight or 3 Lady Luck.

Despite what you said, I will still go for FFXII. The only reason is that I played FFTA2 and it has the same setting as FFXII.

I know FFTA2 is supposed to be worse than the original FFT, but meh. I played more than 100 hours on it.
:]
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 14 2010 22:12 GMT
#16
World of warcraft - 112 days something
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 14 2010 22:17 GMT
#17
i only played one FF the one with the cute little veigar thingy.
Absolutely loved it too bad all the awesome games take up too much time;(
and never owned a console.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 14 2010 22:18 GMT
#18
I liked 10 because I played it like an interactive movie rather than a game, was quite relaxing and straight-forward. I've played all the FFs except 13 and the mmos but my favourites by far are tactics and 6. There are a lot of quality RPGs from others that are on the same level or better though (also a lot of crap, FF games are at a pretty high standard).

Looking at all the time I used on random MMOs I feel like the time playing RPGs was very well spent .
No I'm never serious.
NickC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
233 Posts
September 14 2010 22:19 GMT
#19
u shud read some ff7 fanfic. last one i read, sephy and 2 other shinra soldiers were invisible homosexual ghosts living in clouds house, they hated him at first but slowly began to get an attraction to his innocence and resolve...until tifa comes on the scene and keeps trying to ask him out! jealousy and fun results!
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
September 14 2010 22:22 GMT
#20
woah that's quite a lot


chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross were better then the FF in my opinion
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