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Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
August 27 2010 02:14 GMT
#21
Solution, play brood war. Chill bro you had a bad run, if blizzard listened to ragers like you than SC2 ladder would be 2x as bad as it already is. I mean you can be 50% overall and get into plat eventually.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
August 27 2010 02:30 GMT
#22
On August 27 2010 11:05 Excalibur_Z wrote:
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On August 27 2010 10:45 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I do actually find the match making system to be pretty retarded. I just started laddering and I keep getting put up against like 600-800 rank diamond players when I have played 20 games and am like a 300~ platinum. I don't see how its matching us up.


It's because you had very few games played and a very high win ratio (likely brought about by a long win streak).

Well I kind of like that, but at the same time it doesn't make sense. I like playing the better players but its attempting to match players by skill not rank and while I get the fun purposes behind it I don't really see how I am climbing the proverbial ladder. Its not like ICCup sees you go 10-0 through D rank and says "alright just for kicks throw him vs an A-" Its really annoyingly erratic sometimes. Although I do like playing people on my level which makes it good, but I honestly haven't even played a platinum level player yet.
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Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 27 2010 02:39 GMT
#23
Yeah, them bancheese are OP. What are they some smaller bc? Aren't kinda supposed to be the new wraith?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
August 27 2010 02:49 GMT
#24
Update:

I have played two more games and for the first time no player was favoured. I guess that the system have found my "level". Guys were 650 and 550pts.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 27 2010 02:50 GMT
#25
i can't find a crying smiley face to post

you are terrible at sc2 and should not complain about balance. are you not aware of how many protoss players wouldnt lose to the people you've been losing to?
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 27 2010 02:50 GMT
#26
im gonna say this to everyone until someone understands!
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 03:02:35
August 27 2010 02:53 GMT
#27


I was mostly ranting about the ladder system. But since i didn't want to make another post i had to talk about PvT too.

Anyway i think that the incoming tourneys and patches will tell us a lot of things hehe.
I hope that the protoss players will fare better than at IEM :O

P-S: I'M BAD I GET IT BUT I HAVE NEVER SAID I'M GOOD ANYWAY.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 27 2010 02:56 GMT
#28
the point is, i GUARANTEE you could post a replay and I could point out a ton of reasons why you lost that have NOTHING to do with game balance. this is true for basically every single SC2 player in existence right now. all a blog like this accomplishes is putting your short-sightedness, lack of confidence in your abilities, and shallow understanding of how these games work on display. it gives me a headache.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
August 27 2010 03:00 GMT
#29
You gotta admit though, Banshees are essentially flying DT's with range and faster attack speed.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 03:04:27
August 27 2010 03:04 GMT
#30
On August 27 2010 12:00 sluggaslamoo wrote:
You gotta admit though, Banshees are essentially flying DT's with range and faster attack speed.


banshees are strong, but they're high on the tech tree and they're expensive. if i play against someone like Huk, you know how many kills my banshee will get? not very many, because Huk is a shitload better than me and he knows how to play. the only difference between this blog and the blog I could make about how useless banshees are because i can't kill Huk with them is that these are far more numerous because people are stupid
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Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 27 2010 03:10 GMT
#31
On August 27 2010 12:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
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On August 27 2010 12:00 sluggaslamoo wrote:
You gotta admit though, Banshees are essentially flying DT's with range and faster attack speed.


banshees are strong, but they're high on the tech tree and they're expensive. if i play against someone like Huk, you know how many kills my banshee will get? not very many, because Huk is a shitload better than me and he knows how to play. the only difference between this blog and the blog I could make about how useless banshees are because i can't kill Huk with them is that these are far more numerous because people are stupid


lol. It is funny how everyone complains about terran yet I have a friend who's never played competitive BW, is a 60 apm player, and is now higher than me on ladder doing only 3 builds, 1 per matchup. I just told him what to do and he wins 90% of his games vs terran.

Protoss is much stronger than terran if you do builds that don't completely suck.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 03:11:39
August 27 2010 03:10 GMT
#32
I agree with FakeSteve in that PvT isn't as imbalanced as Boblion seems to paint it. For me, it just seems that there is no way Protoss can take the initiative early game because of how effective the marauder/marine force is at T1 and marauder/medivac/hellion/banshee mobility is at T2. A Terran that truly uses all of the mobility he is granted in the game is insanely frustrating to play against :/

It just seems like Terran dictates most of the game. Though there are definitely exceptions to the rule like Void Rays.

As far as balance goes, it is probably the best mu in terms of balance? Maybe PvZ is better I dunno
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 27 2010 03:13 GMT
#33
On August 27 2010 11:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
the point is, i GUARANTEE you could post a replay and I could point out a ton of reasons why you lost that have NOTHING to do with game balance. this is true for basically every single SC2 player in existence right now. all a blog like this accomplishes is putting your short-sightedness, lack of confidence in your abilities, and shallow understanding of how these games work on display. it gives me a headache.

Balance can vary between different levels of play though. You know, like in brood war where protoss was really dominant in the lower/mid brackets of iccup whereas in proleague terran and zerg generally had somewhat of an edge.

I don't really know shit about sc2 balance, but I'm just saying..
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
August 27 2010 03:13 GMT
#34
banshees are the worst unit in the game. You could do some cute things with wraiths with some heavy micro, but now the DPS is jacked up, and I don't have tier 1(.5) anti air (aside from queens) and my overlords aren't detectors anymore. Splendid!

And yeah I bet the game is a lot more balanced than people think but it sure isn't fun. I've been playing more broodwar lately Or should that be
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 03:21:43
August 27 2010 03:15 GMT
#35
On August 27 2010 12:10 Floophead_III wrote:
lol. It is funny how everyone complains about terran yet I have a friend who's never played competitive BW, is a 60 apm player, and is now higher than me on ladder doing only 3 builds, 1 per matchup. I just told him what to do and he wins 90% of his games vs terran.

Protoss is much stronger than terran if you do builds that don't completely suck.

Hey feel free to post some replays i will take a look. But i'm not interested if it is below 600 diamond.
I'm curious to see how he deals with rines and banshees. Especially if he has only one build and 60 apm :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
August 27 2010 04:21 GMT
#36
Yeah I hate the way the ladder moves you up, I've played 20 games and I'm getting matched against people that have played 300+ games that lead their diamond division.

It wouldn't be a big deal, but it doesn't really give me room to experiment with builds, etc.. I was kind of expecting a chance to play against people that have played the same amount as me for a bit.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
August 27 2010 04:23 GMT
#37
Don't even worry about the favor thing. Its so pointless it really doesn't matter. Just play the game.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 27 2010 04:34 GMT
#38
On August 27 2010 11:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
the point is, i GUARANTEE you could post a replay and I could point out a ton of reasons why you lost that have NOTHING to do with game balance. this is true for basically every single SC2 player in existence right now. all a blog like this accomplishes is putting your short-sightedness, lack of confidence in your abilities, and shallow understanding of how these games work on display. it gives me a headache.


Your logic is kind of inconsistent, though... Yes, I'm sure you could find plenty of holes in this guy's game. But there's nothing that suggests you couldn't find just as many and just as severe mistakes in his opponent's play, either. It's not fair if both players are equally bad but one guy wins. Ofc if one guy was more skilled, he's more likely to win. But you're jumping to conclusions here. I'm pretty damn sure the game isn't balanced yet, if only because any RTS game requires a good long while for the actual imbalances to become apparent.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 05:40:33
August 27 2010 05:38 GMT
#39
Shutup Chill these forums are for complaining about what you struggle with, they are not for saying something nice about the game we all spend hours upon hours playing! >
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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
August 27 2010 06:09 GMT
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