problem! in a draw game =/

On August 12 2010 08:20 MasterAsia wrote:
LOL That game makes my day. Thanks TT1.

On August 12 2010 08:53 HazMat wrote:

Haha that was epic, did you have that in mind the whole time, since your drone was just hiding in a corner.

On August 12 2010 13:38 MasterAsia wrote:
I thought a little bit after the game.

I have to morph the extractor right at the timing he killed my last two buildings. If I morph it earlier, the zealot will come back to kill my extractor and then the remaining buildings, and there is nothing I can do to stop it, unless my little hero zergling could kill all his buildings within this time period. I am not sure who would survive in that case.

On August 12 2010 23:00 Jyvblamo wrote:

As long as you still had enough money, you can just cancel the extractor when his zealot comes to kill it, then rebuild it when he goes back to whacking at your buildings. This could buy you an extra bit of time.

On August 18 2010 13:57 Cerz wrote:
So the entire second half of the game I cannot help but think to myself... shouldn't Masterofasia's overlords no longer be able to generate creep since he no longer has a lair tech?

Is this working as intended?
It seems the overlords that he already told to make creep were able to do so after the Lair was destroyed, but the rest of them were not able to generate creep since he didn't have a lair.

Perhaps this is simply a setting I am unfamiliar with (as I generally try to avoid losing my Lair when playing Zerg), but IMO it seems as though overlords should not be able to produce creep once the Lair has been destroyed, and therefore his buildings (besides the extractors) should have died.

On August 18 2010 13:57 Cerz wrote:
So the entire second half of the game I cannot help but think to myself... shouldn't Masterofasia's overlords no longer be able to generate creep since he no longer has a lair tech?

Is this working as intended?
It seems the overlords that he already told to make creep were able to do so after the Lair was destroyed, but the rest of them were not able to generate creep since he didn't have a lair.

Perhaps this is simply a setting I am unfamiliar with (as I generally try to avoid losing my Lair when playing Zerg), but IMO it seems as though overlords should not be able to produce creep once the Lair has been destroyed, and therefore his buildings (besides the extractors) should have died.

On August 19 2010 06:19 Megaman703 wrote:
Did MasterAsia have the foresight to know that he would need to make an extractor in the future?

Now that's a pimp play if I ever saw one.

On August 12 2010 09:57 MasterAsia wrote:
Yes, I thought that was the only way to get the zealot killed, making him believe he was able to eliminate me.

On August 12 2010 13:38 MasterAsia wrote:
I thought a little bit after the game.
I have to morph the extractor right at the timing he killed my last two buildings. If I morph it earlier, the zealot will come back to kill my extractor and then the remaining buildings, and there is nothing I can do to stop it, unless my little hero zergling could kill all his buildings within this time period. I am not sure who would survive in that case.

On August 19 2010 14:07 Ryuu314 wrote:

It's working as intended. It's kinda like how HTs can still cast storm once it's research but if the templar archives is destroyed. Or how marines still have stim once researched but the tech lab is switched away or destroyed.

Lair tech simply unlocks creep generation. Think of it as a free, instant skill research.

That said, awesome game. Best end-game ever.

On August 20 2010 02:38 Cerz wrote:


Honestly I don't see it like that. Research is different from requirements imo.

It seems more like not being able to build a marauder out of a barracks unless it has a tech lab. Once the tech lab is destroy, you are no longer able to build a marauder unless you rebuild it.

I have tested this, and it seems once you have a Lair, and then lose it, your overlords are in two groups.
If an overlord was told to produce creep while you had the lair, BEFORE it was destroyed, it is still able to produce creep (which seems stupid, imo... similar to the marauder thing).
If an overlord was not told to produce creep while you had the lair, after the lair is destroy it CANNOT produce creep, since it requires lair tech.
Also, if you have an overlord that is producing creep, then the lair gets destroyed, he will still produce creep... but if you switch that overlord into not producing creep, the option to produce creep again is greyed out and reads "requires lair tech" (or whatever).

TLDR: it would be similar to building marauders out of a rax that had its tech lab destroyed... but at one point it did have a tech lab so it is okay.
Seems bugged imo.