Winners who say GG

On August 07 2010 19:09 sLiniss wrote:
Offensive GG's are super BM imo. Makes me angry... gah. I used to do it in WC3 when I was younger. I regret it.

On August 07 2010 19:11 PanoRaMa wrote:
In team game (and not RT) I offensive GG when one of my opposing teammates leaves (without having gged), bad manner or not? It's a weird habit, basically whenever someone leaves as my team is owning I instinctively think "ok game is over, type gg for closure".

On August 08 2010 00:01 Adeny wrote:
It's because you have no units or workers left and I'm killing all your shit. Just leave already.

On August 08 2010 01:03 BC.WeaPonX wrote:
Saying the gg when you have the game, before your opponent does is by far the most unmannered thing I can think of, it's really a big pet peeve of mine. I'm really not sure why, I suppose it is insult to injury.

On August 08 2010 05:09 JohannesH wrote:
Good responses to offensive gg is hiding pylons or floating buildings

Then leave the comp for a moment if you feel like it.

On August 08 2010 05:03 Klockan3 wrote:

I think that it is just something in the sc community, I have seen people do that a lot in other games and none minds.

On August 08 2010 06:14 huameng wrote:


Offensive gg in starcraft is a huge dick move because if your opponent hasn't gg'd yet, he clearly doesn't think the game is over! He hasn't lost yet, and it's his right to fight until he thinks he cannot win, so for you to tell him he is dead before he has come to that conclusion is of course very rude. I'm not sure what other games you are talking about, but I haven't played any where it is ok to tell your opponent the game is over while he is still trying to win.

On August 08 2010 06:14 huameng wrote:


Offensive gg in starcraft is a huge dick move because if your opponent hasn't gg'd yet, he clearly doesn't think the game is over! He hasn't lost yet, and it's his right to fight until he thinks he cannot win, so for you to tell him he is dead before he has come to that conclusion is of course very rude. I'm not sure what other games you are talking about, but I haven't played any where it is ok to tell your opponent the game is over while he is still trying to win.

On August 08 2010 08:28 Inkarnate wrote:
I don't mind an offensive GG if they've obviously won and it was a good game.

Funny when they think they've won and say "GG?" then lose. Even more funny when its your brother

On August 08 2010 08:33 illu wrote:
You have a good point.

If I am clearly winning I say "gg?" instead of "gg". I think the question mark means a lot here.

On August 08 2010 12:37 OMin wrote:
i definitely agree offensive gg's are bad manner

however, when i know my opponent is clearly outmatched and has about a 1 percent chance of winning, but is still stalling around and being annoying and not leaving, i do politely ask them to leave the game.... i remember it pissed me off super badly when i was playing a tvp and i raped everything but 1 expo and had the entire map mining for myself, and i had to leave to run errands in 5 minutes. the fucking kid was mad at me for some reason and refused to leave and was pumping dt's and shit out of 8 gateways he warped in last minute at his expo.... ofc it would eventually get wiped out cuz i had a 200/200 army with ridiculous amounts of money still coming in, but i had to go and lost a game i won cuz he refused to leave the game.

so it kinda goes both ways, in terms of offensive gg's for the winner and knowing when to leave for the loser.

On August 08 2010 19:59 fly.stat wrote:
It's very shallow of people when they do that. Some pathetic loser that thinks he's such a badass for barely scraping out a victory throws gg in my face as if I deserved it. Fuck off, Mr. Offensive GG.

On August 08 2010 20:17 Klockan3 wrote:

Why do people have this mental picture of people who do offensive gg? Sounds like you got issues...

The deal is this, the game was clearly over, you admit it, and yet you think that he was bad mannered to say "good game"??? If he just killed your main army and sits in your main destroying your production I think it is fair to say gg as the aggressor.

On August 08 2010 21:03 fly.stat wrote:


Which situation makes you feel worse:

Someone saying "You have been defeated by me."
or admitting "I have been defeated by you."

There's an aspect to offensive gg that makes the speaker seem pompous and overbearing. Though one may honestly be trying to say, "Hey, you played well regardless. Good game.", it's hard to determine that from two letters. If you want to be a manner guy about victory gg'ing, then why don't you just type out what you mean? That wouldn't be...a bother to you, would it? I mean, if the game is truly over?

On August 08 2010 07:16 Klockan3 wrote:

Um, many don't leave even when they know that they have lost! There are people who think that it is fun to play and don't just care about stats, you know... Saying "good game" means that you think that it was a good game, how can that be bad mannered really?
People might say it a bit too early sometimes but I don't see the BM of that either. He just thinks that he already got the win and want to express that he liked the game before you got the chance to leave, then in some rare cases you can still fight back and win but what do that have to do with anything?

Lastly people who do offensive GG's are most likely mannered people who don't know about this special starcraft culture where saying gg as the winner before the losers says it is considered bad mannered. "Good game" is after all a compliment...

On August 10 2010 16:47 TheMute wrote:
And if I lose, I definitely like saying gg and exiting super fast without a chance for the other player to say gg back to me.

On August 10 2010 17:25 Divinek wrote:
i have never in my life seen an offensive gg not done to basically represent 'haha you fucking lose noob'

On August 10 2010 17:25 Divinek wrote:
gg is a universal symbol to say 'i give up'

On August 10 2010 17:25 Divinek wrote:
it just is a dick move, and your ignorance on the matter is quite astounding

On August 12 2010 09:53 Klockan3 wrote:

That is bad mannered as well as it shows how frustrated and angry you were with the game and don't really mean "good game" at all. Calm down, say "gg" and let the other player respond, don't be this frustrated just because you lost.

In the korean pro games it is different, in those you need a way to tell who is the winner and there is no need to draw out the games since they take up valuable time so when someone loses they say "gg" and leaves instantly but that doesn't mean that this should be used for normal games where you can't go and shake hands and gg afterwards since you don't sit 5 meters from each other.

How do you know what is going on in your opponents mind?

gg is absolutely not a universal symbol to say 'i give up', that is the white flag. gg do symbolize "i give up" in in sc progames though but to people who don't follow the pro scene gg just means "good game" and is something you say at the end of the game to be mannered just like players of any competitive event in real life do.

No, your ignorance is. You think that when someone starts to play starcraft they know all of these unwritten rules as if they were in the manual to the game or in some tutorial. gg is just an acronym for "good game", that is the description you will find if you search or ask, nothing more and nothing less.

On August 12 2010 13:04 Loser777 wrote:

You can argue what "gg" stands for as much as you want, but when "gg" is used in a winning or offensive scenario, the implied meaning is "the game is over". While SC is similar to Chess, there is nothing as definite as a checkmate in SC. Even in Chess, you do not offer your opponent a handshake when you think the game is over; you do so when it is actually over. In any sport, it's rude to say outright -it's over when the game clearly hasn't ended yet.

On August 10 2010 16:47 TheMute wrote:
And if I lose, I definitely like saying gg and exiting super fast without a chance for the other player to say gg back to me. It's like a super cool exit.

On August 12 2010 14:25 Klockan3 wrote:

You are completely correct in that in normal sports you don't say "good game" till the game is over, however once the game is over you can no longer chat in computer games like starcraft so you have to say it before it ends.

When gg is used in an offensive scenario the meaning is "good game" like it always is which is usually said when the game is over so it means that he thinks that the game is over. But when else is he going to say it when many have this mentality or don't gg at all?

On August 07 2010 19:03 Klockan3 wrote:
Why is it considered rude by starcraft players to say gg first when you win?

On August 07 2010 19:03 Klockan3 wrote:
Why is it considered rude by starcraft players to say gg first when you win?

On October 05 2010 00:19 Lea wrote:

It's bad manners. Of course it was a good game for you BECAUSE YOU WON. No need to rub it in to the loser. Just be happy that you won but keep it to yourself. People who just killed me and gg piss me off to no end. I just did this 1v1 against a terran who marine rushed me, and then as he realized I was losing, he says gg (I had to pull off my probes to fight him and but he killed them, and it was so early in the game I could only be on one base). Saying gg in this context as the winner, only implies one thing, especially when the opponent stands little to no chance of winning at all: "haha you lost you sucker". I'm the one supposed to say gg, not them, because when I say gg as the loser, I show respect that they won over me. Then give me the same courtesy in turn by not saying gg. Bad sportsmanship.

Imagine a football tourney and then the winners of the tourney says something like "haha you lost you suckers" to the losing team. It's about the same deal saying gg as a winner in SC2, especially when the opponent stood little to no chance of winning that game. The ONLY exception where I think saying gg as a winner is ok is if the game is very long, very even and both players do their best, because then it was a TRULY good game.
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Actually, it probably means just that, good game. I'm quite sure that people would say 'haha you lost faggot' if that's what they were going for. No one enjoys playing an idiot who is still in the game, battling with nothing but probes and hiding shit. Get out when you lose.

Actually, no it's not at all. You'd say haha you lost instead of gg....

On October 05 2010 00:52 Klockan3 wrote:
But as I said, Starcraft is the only game were I have seen that saying gg as the winner is offensive, in other games it is standard curtsey to say gg at the end of the game even if you win. GG means "Good game", everything else is just in your head. If a guy in a soccer game shouted "Good game!" I don't think that anyone would see him as bm.
People do that in sports all the time, after each game the players shake hands and say "good game", it is always like that, it doesn't matter who won or if it actually were a good game, you always say that. The winner doesn't wait for the loser to say it first or avoid saying it if he thinks it would hurt the loser or whatever, it is always said.

So if you come from a real life sport environment and learns that "gg" means "good game" it is just natural to always say it at the end of the game.
"Furthermore, it doesn't take that much brain power to figure out what the acroym could possibly stand for, like hfgl."
Yeah, it stands for "good game" and nothing else. To you it might stand for "Please leave, fucker", but that is just your interpretation of the "gg".

On October 05 2010 00:52 infinity2k9 wrote:
It's fine to say it once your opponent has given up. You never try and shake hands or insist you've already won before the game is over in any sport or game. Doing beforehand when you are winning or especially when you did some lame rush is just clearly deliberately BM. Do you seriously think when someone offensive GG's you they are just trying to genuinely say its a good game?

Example: You are not going to GG before kill limit is actually reached in Quake, you arn't going to GG when its 85 minutes into a game of FIFA and its 4-0. It's just plain rude.

On October 05 2010 00:52 infinity2k9 wrote:
You can tell that anyone who offensive GG's certainly isn't doing it in a respectful manner anyway.

On October 05 2010 00:48 Lea wrote:
I found it incredibly tasteless when I did a random 3v3 and we decided to rush, and then I see my team mates gg'ing despite that the opposing team stood little to no chance, just when they had just a few buildings left.

On October 05 2010 01:05 Klockan3 wrote:

No, of course not, but the situations in an RTS are usually a lot less remediable compared to FPS and in an RTS it is a huge hassle to speak to people after they have left so you say GG when you think that it is impossible for your opponent to win.

Also you would have a lot less frustration playing online if you imagined that everyone saying "gg" was doing so with good intentions even if some of them actually were rude as long as you think that they are not then you are fine. And If someone is actually BM then he would do more than just gg first as the winner so I think that in most of the cases a plain gg first as winner is mostly just a nicety from him but of course not always.

How in hell do you do that, are you psychic or something? GG is just two letters...

On October 21 2010 22:50 Ricjames wrote:
It is very offensive and rude and i don't like it and never do it. Although i gotta say that i hate people who just don't know when to leave the game and waste another 10-15 minutes in the game camping their main or one expo. Especially when you really don't have time to waste with a player you just outmatched by 3 ranks.