EPTIt's whenever GG went from being a nice GM thing to say, to how it's used in the WoW community now, as GG = game over, or you made some stupid mistake and now you lose. Personally this usage of GG is what infuriates me. How a phrase like good game could be used to insult others.
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bluefuzz
United States112 Posts
It's whenever GG went from being a nice GM thing to say, to how it's used in the WoW community now, as GG = game over, or you made some stupid mistake and now you lose. Personally this usage of GG is what infuriates me. How a phrase like good game could be used to insult others. | ||
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Meerkat
United States16 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32165 Posts
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Glacierz
United States1245 Posts
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tfmdjeff
United States170 Posts
I think BM is fine. I mean, if my opponent is well mannered, I will also be mannered, but I'm not going to be mannered to everyone. If someone is going to be a dick, then I'm not going to restrain myself. Did I hold off your double proxy gate chrono boosted zealot rush? I'm not going to be nice about it. "NO COPPER LEAGUE ALLOWED IN MY BASE" | ||
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houck
United Kingdom102 Posts
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kaohho
Canada8 Posts
The opponent used early void rays on me and said "say gg". I was zerg and totally didn't scout him properly so he destroyed my base. I attacked his base with my ground force and destroyed most of it, and I guess he was very confident cuz he took his time and started killing my remaining larvae at my base. Little did he know, I expanded at several places when his void rays came and I killed off the rest of his base with 6 zerglings. Obviously, I was quite happy  .Edit: The replay is actually on the bottom of p.16 of the replay thread in SC2 General forum of TL (I posted it cuz I thought it was kind of funny) | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On August 10 2010 16:47 TheMute wrote: And if I lose, I definitely like saying gg and exiting super fast without a chance for the other player to say gg back to me. That is bad mannered as well as it shows how frustrated and angry you were with the game and don't really mean "good game" at all. Calm down, say "gg" and let the other player respond, don't be this frustrated just because you lost. In the korean pro games it is different, in those you need a way to tell who is the winner and there is no need to draw out the games since they take up valuable time so when someone loses they say "gg" and leaves instantly but that doesn't mean that this should be used for normal games where you can't go and shake hands and gg afterwards since you don't sit 5 meters from each other. On August 10 2010 17:25 Divinek wrote: i have never in my life seen an offensive gg not done to basically represent 'haha you fucking lose noob' How do you know what is going on in your opponents mind? On August 10 2010 17:25 Divinek wrote: gg is a universal symbol to say 'i give up' gg is absolutely not a universal symbol to say 'i give up', that is the white flag. gg do symbolize "i give up" in in sc progames though but to people who don't follow the pro scene gg just means "good game" and is something you say at the end of the game to be mannered just like players of any competitive event in real life do. On August 10 2010 17:25 Divinek wrote: it just is a dick move, and your ignorance on the matter is quite astounding No, your ignorance is. You think that when someone starts to play starcraft they know all of these unwritten rules as if they were in the manual to the game or in some tutorial. gg is just an acronym for "good game", that is the description you will find if you search or ask, nothing more and nothing less. | ||
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
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Cham
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Loser777
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On August 12 2010 09:53 Klockan3 wrote: That is bad mannered as well as it shows how frustrated and angry you were with the game and don't really mean "good game" at all. Calm down, say "gg" and let the other player respond, don't be this frustrated just because you lost. In the korean pro games it is different, in those you need a way to tell who is the winner and there is no need to draw out the games since they take up valuable time so when someone loses they say "gg" and leaves instantly but that doesn't mean that this should be used for normal games where you can't go and shake hands and gg afterwards since you don't sit 5 meters from each other. How do you know what is going on in your opponents mind? gg is absolutely not a universal symbol to say 'i give up', that is the white flag. gg do symbolize "i give up" in in sc progames though but to people who don't follow the pro scene gg just means "good game" and is something you say at the end of the game to be mannered just like players of any competitive event in real life do. No, your ignorance is. You think that when someone starts to play starcraft they know all of these unwritten rules as if they were in the manual to the game or in some tutorial. gg is just an acronym for "good game", that is the description you will find if you search or ask, nothing more and nothing less. You can argue what "gg" stands for as much as you want, but when "gg" is used in a winning or offensive scenario, the implied meaning is "the game is over". While SC is similar to Chess, there is nothing as definite as a checkmate in SC. Even in Chess, you do not offer your opponent a handshake when you think the game is over; you do so when it is actually over. In any sport, it's rude to say outright -it's over when the game clearly hasn't ended yet. | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
a) The opponent did some lame rush or cheese that I defended and then killed them. or b) The opponent refuses to leave despite being way too far behind to come back. Of course, offensive gg always leads to counter BM, but thats all part of the fun. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On August 12 2010 13:04 Loser777 wrote: You can argue what "gg" stands for as much as you want, but when "gg" is used in a winning or offensive scenario, the implied meaning is "the game is over". While SC is similar to Chess, there is nothing as definite as a checkmate in SC. Even in Chess, you do not offer your opponent a handshake when you think the game is over; you do so when it is actually over. In any sport, it's rude to say outright -it's over when the game clearly hasn't ended yet. You are completely correct in that in normal sports you don't say "good game" till the game is over, however once the game is over you can no longer chat in computer games like starcraft so you have to say it before it ends. When gg is used in an offensive scenario the meaning is "good game" like it always is which is usually said when the game is over so it means that he thinks that the game is over. But when else is he going to say it when many have this mentality or don't gg at all? On August 10 2010 16:47 TheMute wrote: And if I lose, I definitely like saying gg and exiting super fast without a chance for the other player to say gg back to me. It's like a super cool exit. | ||
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Loser777
1931 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:25 Klockan3 wrote: You are completely correct in that in normal sports you don't say "good game" till the game is over, however once the game is over you can no longer chat in computer games like starcraft so you have to say it before it ends. When gg is used in an offensive scenario the meaning is "good game" like it always is which is usually said when the game is over so it means that he thinks that the game is over. But when else is he going to say it when many have this mentality or don't gg at all? It's definitely hard to strike a balance between leaving early and lingering too long -staying too long suggests that you are still trying to win and said "gg" to distract your opponent. However, I still think that the "gg" is the burden of the loser and not the winner -the winner is not obligated to say it when the opponent leaves too early. | ||
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blastedt
United States29 Posts
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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
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Meerkat
United States16 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On August 07 2010 19:03 Klockan3 wrote: Why is it considered rude by starcraft players to say gg first when you win? Your opponent hasn't given up yet so keep playing until they do, no need to say gg if they decide they want to keep trying. It's not the worst manner and in some cases your opponent just isn't leaving but still, manner is waiting for the player who has lost to gg first | ||
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Lea
Sweden120 Posts
On August 07 2010 19:03 Klockan3 wrote: Why is it considered rude by starcraft players to say gg first when you win? It's bad manners. Of course it was a good game for you BECAUSE YOU WON. No need to rub it in to the loser. Just be happy that you won but keep it to yourself. People who just killed me and gg piss me off to no end. I just did this 1v1 against a terran who marine rushed me, and then as he realized I was losing, he says gg (I had to pull off my probes to fight him and but he killed them, and it was so early in the game I could only be on one base). Saying gg in this context as the winner, only implies one thing, especially when the opponent stands little to no chance of winning at all: "haha you lost you sucker". I'm the one supposed to say gg, not them, because when I say gg as the loser, I show respect that they won over me. Then give me the same courtesy in turn by not saying gg. Bad sportsmanship. Imagine a football tourney and then the winners of the tourney says something like "haha you lost you suckers" to the losing team. It's about the same deal saying gg as a winner in SC2, especially when the opponent stood little to no chance of winning that game. The ONLY exception where I think saying gg as a winner is ok is if the game is very long, very even and both players do their best, because then it was a TRULY good game. In all other instances, no. And clearly, if people actually bother to say gg in the first place, that means they have some knowledge and understanding of the term. If you didn't even know what gg is, you wouldn't say it. Furthermore, it doesn't take that much brain power to figure out what the acroym could possibly stand for, like hfgl. | ||
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