EPT[Sc2] Confessions of a Terran player - Page 3
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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knyttym
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
On July 31 2010 05:03 PokePill wrote: I can understand the very top players not being objective but below that it's quite sad people can't admit the obvious advantage Terran has for absolutely no reason other than their delusions or fear of a slightly lower winrate. That being said I love playing Terran, played Protoss the entire beta, went 30-12 solo which is pretty bad, used an alt account and went 25-5 trying out Terran for the first time. It's pretty awesome to do any strategy I feel like and still win games through macro/micro. If you take your expansion 30 seconds too early as P, sorry game over go back up your ramp and make more gates plz. You do one extra macro cycles of drones as Z, sorry game over. Yea its next to impossible to punish a terran for a slightly early expo, lift off wtf. And every OC contributes to income, no matter where they are. Mules are not rigged for their income, it's the fact that you can save up 4 per OC if you are defensive and then just x12 mule and roll out a new army in no time. | ||
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FindingPride
United States1001 Posts
On July 31 2010 01:58 IdrA wrote: cool and tester are the only serious sc2 players who were sc1 proleaguers within the last few years, theyre also the best of their races by quite a bit. its not a coincidence, a very big chunk of the skillset transfers cleanly. what about IntoTheRainbow? | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On July 31 2010 05:00 DanielD wrote: Err... it's not irrelevant to talk about their BW skill when Idra is talking about how they were sc 1 professionals and therefore are better than the other SC2 players by a large margin, because of this fact. I haven't seen many games with Cool, but Tester, while being pretty good, is clearly not playing at the level of a decent Progamer. The games I've watched with him he has played relatively solid but hasn't shown himself to be worlds better than his opponents in the semis or the finals. We still haven't seen TvP or TvZ played at the highest levels, all of this "if so and so played T they'd do even BETTER" is pure speculation until it actually happens. The game will be constantly evolving over time, short term and long term. Currently they are at the highest level of play because they are the best players atm along with idra. Watch Day[9] KotB Tester vs. Into the Rainbow is pretty high level P v T. Also White-ra vs. Cauthonluck casted by Gretorp from the Day[9] countdown party was very good as well. I do agree with the speculation part. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 30 2010 23:43 Wysp wrote: marauders are going to see some sort of nerf, be it increase in price or decrease it stats. I also suspect that vikings will lose some attack range. I dont even think marauders are a problem If you arent stupid with Marines they ARE the strongest units in the game, they beat every other unit cost for cost because of stim, and have like 60 hp and cost 50 minerals ??????? Id like to see a marine HP nerf or something but Marauder nerfs wouldnt be bad either.. | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Cuyir
United States20 Posts
On July 31 2010 05:13 GreatFall wrote: people say 'oh but Z and P are better because they win all the competitions' but they aren't looking at it on an average player's level. For the average player (lower level diamond included) terran is indeed imbalanced. It just takes a lot more skill to fend off a terran attack than it does to fend off a zerg or protoss attack if you aren't extremely good. How would you balance a game at the "average players level". Make T worse at higher levels so that its easier for silver and gold players to beat them? That doesn't make any sense. If it's balanced at the highest levels, then the problem with the lower level players is that they're doing something wrong, not that the game is unbalanced. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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zoltanqc
Canada171 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On July 31 2010 08:12 zoltanqc wrote: Lolll @ people thinking T is easier than P. Lolll @ Terran players not thinking Terran is imba | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On July 31 2010 08:56 Malgrif wrote: Loll @ all these z and p losing to terran and crying imba instead of their own skills look it's another one, haha | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=15&part=games&league=standard Late 2006 was when he really just fazed out. 2007 he played a few proleague games but nothing much. Cool played about as much in proleague as ITR in 07. Tester is the only one who actually played a significant amount of games leading up to sc2. That's probably why were are excited for players like Up and sangho who were proleague regulars for their team. A-team level is absurd. Really I keep teetering between playing zerg and terran. I like zerg but terran is too ridiculous. Ever single time I play against one I don't understand how blizzard is not nerfing them. I have to say it is significantly worse then protoss at low levels in scbw. | ||
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zTz
United States476 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On July 31 2010 08:20 blabber wrote: Lolll @ Terran players not thinking Terran is imba What is your diamond rating out of curiosity? High enough to be taken seriously? I'm curious because I'm pretty sick of people spewing "imba imba QQ  " and it seems like thats what you're doing. How do you reconcile your beliefs with strong performances by P and Z in top level tournaments throughout the beta? | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 31 2010 12:10 calgar wrote: What is your diamond rating out of curiosity? High enough to be taken seriously? I'm curious because I'm pretty sick of people spewing "imba imba QQ " and it seems like thats what you're doing. How do you reconcile your beliefs with strong performances by P and Z in top level tournaments throughout the beta?Well, I would reconcile them by quoting things that Idra has already said in this very topic. Plus, I assume Idra is a good enough player to be taken seriously. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 31 2010 13:03 Sentenal wrote: Well, I would reconcile them by quoting things that Idra has already said in this very topic. Plus, I assume Idra is a good enough player to be taken seriously. Idra's primary quip is primarily with a specific unit composition in the matchup most relevant to him. And to be fair, I agree with him in regard to that--and I've been advocating it's change for a while now. The problem is when people start extending that to virtually every unit available to Terran. An example of this is the marauder--people have been complaining about it since day 1 of the beta, particularly with regard to mass marauder strategies when, as far as I've seen in high level games, overly marauder-heavy compositions are fairly poor. If you face a mass marauder strategy on ladder, you should be happy to take the freewin. Terran is overpowered, but I'm pretty sure that a majority of people complaining about it aren't even losing in situations where the "overpowered" elements are being abused. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On July 31 2010 05:02 Sentenal wrote: This is very true. Plus, even some Terrans agree that Terran is OP. Just ask LuckyFool, lol yep. We deserve it though after 11 years of bullshit in bw. | ||
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