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maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
July 21 2010 04:07 GMT
#1
I determined back in February that I wanted to build a new computer for SC2. At that time, I knew pretty much nothing about computer hardware - save that it's impossible to download RAM - but, as of roughly 24 hours ago, I have finished with all parts of my first build.

It was a bit piecemeal, with core components ordered at the start of June and replacing out what I could afford to from there, but it's finally finished. What I ended up getting:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3
CPU: i5-750
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen
Thermal Paste: Tuniq TX-2
RAM: 2x 2GB G.Skill Eco Series 1600 MHz 7-8-7-24
DVD-RW: Sony Optiarc
PSU: Seasonic M12II 520W
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
Case: Antec 902

I don't have pics of the original build, sadly, but I'll give a short description. The parts arrived on a Friday afternoon, and I got started assembling about 8 that night. About 6 the following morning I finally finished and set the computer up. There were a couple breaks taken for this and that, but it still took me nearly eight hours to put the thing together, which, in fairness to myself I should point out that pretty much everything past installing the CPU/RAM/thermal paste happened after midnight, though it mostly just stems from me being stupid.

Evidence: I wanted to see if I would be able to install the heatsink backplate through the cutoff on the back of the motherboard tray on the 902, just in case the Mugen was too large for the case, so after I got the CPU and RAM put in, I lined the studs up and worked the mobo into place. Then, to make sure it wouldn't wobble while I was moving the case around, I screwed it down some. I checked and found that I could install the backplate, but it would certainly be easier outside the case. I went to unscrew everything, only to find I had gotten the screw at the top left (besides the back I/O Panel) cockeyed and stuck into the side of the standoff and couldn't remove the screw without the standoff coming, too. Rather than risk damaging the only standoffs I had, I screwed everything back down and installed the Mugen with the mobo in the case.

Ahhh, but I'm not done chronicling my stupidity. I then spent almost thirty minutes trying to figure why I couldn't get the brackets on the heatsink to properly screw into the backplate, only to find that I had oriented one of the brackets right side up and the other upside down.

Another 30+ minutes was lost unsuccessfully attaching the fan to the heatsink. I'm still not sure how that happened, honestly. I searched youtube vids, looked up various websites and studied the booklet multiple times and couldn't figure out how to do the following:

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The large aluminum looking item at the top of the image is the heatsink. The black part on the right side is the fan. On each end of the fan is a hole on the top and bottom that the paper clip looking part clips to and then slids into the grooves on the heatsink (as you can [possibly] see, you can mount two fans, if you buy the second one separately and there are slots to mount a single fan on any side of the heatsink.) Not a difficult maneuver, at all, but apparently beyond my abilities.

Oh, almost forgot I couldn't get the I/O shield in right for the longest time. If you don't know what that is: look at the back of your computer. There's a metal area that has your USB, ethernet, speaker and probably more connections all together. That's your I/O shield and it actually fits around the connections that stick out from your motherboard. Putting it in place is a very simple thing: you put it between your case and motherboard, push the shield until it clicks into place and then the connections should just line up when you place your motherboard in line with its standoffs. Still took me ten minutes to figure out, including one point where I ended up with the I/O shield on the outside and then put a little pressure on the motherboard, knocking the shield onto the floor where I *almost* stepped on it. God, I'm awesome.

Then I couldn't figure out the hard drive cages in the 902. Was transferring the hard drive from my Dell Optiplex gx620 - which was actually a Western Digial of some type that performed much better than I expected - and I dropped it at least three times inside the case trying to fit it into the cage. Then I dropped it again on the table after I figured out I had to take the cages out to install a hard drive (small rant: they may be easier to navigate for some people, but I do find the drive cages on the 902 to be a fairly major pain the ass). maar's blindingly obvious computer hardware tip of the day: dropping your stuff is bad. Fortunately, the patron saint of clueless newbies had my back that day and no damage was done.

Lastly, I had one more dumb moment that, maybe, some of your can relate to. I finally had the guts hooked up, secured, and was ready to fire the rig up. I moved it into my room, attached the monitor, etc, plugged in the power cable and hit the power button only to have nothing happen. I sat there for a minute in despair, staring intently to see if anything had responded in the slightest, but to no avail. Then I realized I hadn't turned the power supply on, slapped myself in the head, flipped the switch and everything sprang to life when I hit the power button again.

That was around the middle of June, and I just got my last pieces in yesterday (the HDD, Windows and a SATA cable) and decided that, as long as I was diving back in, I should fix my "cable management." As you can imagine, at ~6am, after roughly 8 hours of being on my feet working on this thing, I wasn't too keen on making it pretty. Basically, all the front lines/data cables/SATA power cables were just bundled up behind the drive cages. I didn't remember the camera until I had finished putting things together, so I don't have before pics, but maybe that's good enough to give you an idea. The after pictures should be more aesthetically pleasing (my bad camera skills notwithstanding) anyway.

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Alright, maybe I spoke too soon; this looks messy. But the 4+4 connector comes attached and I only need one molex connector even though every line comes with like 4, so I had to just stuff them somewhere. The fan connections are a little tight, but I'd rather have to undo them to deal with the drive cages than fool with another arm of the molex connector.

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Basically, the old look was all these cables (plus the front panel connectors you don't really see) hanging behind the hard drives tied up.

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The back. Here's those front panel cables, along with SATA data, SATA power and the 24 pin connector. Had to use a few more zip ties to get the back panel to fit on.

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Was trying to show the height of the Mugen with this.

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Jacked up and good to go.

As for numbers: the CPU is overclocked to 3.2GHz at stock voltage with all features enabled, meaning it hits >3.8GHz in single-threaded apps. Highest CPU temps I've seen were 55C on the hottest core during a Prime95 session, with the lowest being 19C (well, I saw 18C while the case was open but meh) on Cores 2-4. Core 1 I've never seen below 22C. The GPU idles at 34-35C (30-31 with the case open!) and the highest I've seen it was 54C during a long 3v3 with Ultra settings at 1680x1050 (GPU-Z listed sustained 100% usage, so I'm guessing that's around as hot as it should get ... unless things get dirty.) I play at low, though, so no real FPS benchmark at Ultra. My room stays pretty steady 77F (~25C), for reference.

Anyway, my main goal for this post was to try to show any of you on the fence about putting together your own computer that it really isn't that hard. I don't know if any idiot can do it, but this one muddled through well enough. ;p Feel free to let loose with any questions, comments or dumb moments in your own computer builds, and thanks for reading!

*****
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 21 2010 04:13 GMT
#2
man is that your kitchen sink? planning to get stuck into those dishes whilst you game?
HEY MEYT
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
July 21 2010 04:14 GMT
#3
whoaaaa looks pretty nice! congratz on finishing that thing!
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 21 2010 04:43 GMT
#4
Scythe Mugen? The Hyper 212 would have been an easier to configure and cheaper choice of tower heatsink.
U Gotta Skate.
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:50:33
July 21 2010 04:49 GMT
#5
@JohnColtrane: Hecks yeah, man, gotta use that exhaust fan for something! Crank it up to dry the dishes. Nah, this room used to be a hair dresser's salon years ago and that was the sink they used. Not sure water even runs to it anymore. It's just filled with old stuff that's fallen in over time that I've never bothered to clean.

@Polar_Nada: Thanks.

@ghermination: The Hyper 212 was sold out at Newegg and listed as available within 1-3 months at Amazon when I ordered. The listed price on Newegg when it came back in stock was almost double that of the Mugen, and the Hyper 212 I could have gotten from one of the Amazon partner sites or whatever would have cost more than the Mugen, as well. Plus, the Mugen tends to outperform the 212 by a small amount, and I was fairly confident it'd fit my case, anyway.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 21 2010 05:01 GMT
#6
Modular PSUs are always a plus, I got a EarthWatts and it looks like I rigged a explosive device in there.

And clean off the oily finger prints. D:
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 05:28 GMT
#7
oh lord that mugen is big

cooling monster though so its ok

Not sure why you spent on the 902 when you can get a HAF 922 for the same price and get cable management or a CM 690ii for less and get cable management
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 21 2010 05:31 GMT
#8
oh god im afraid to get a new pc coz it seems like even if i do some research into parts, ill always end up getting the wrong thing and spending too much money / get a dud piece : C
HEY MEYT
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
July 21 2010 05:32 GMT
#9
grats! I'm super jealous of people who can do this XD
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 05:34 GMT
#10
also i am in awe of your idle temps

what the hell is your ambient?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 21 2010 05:40 GMT
#11
congrats dude, I don't know too much about computer hardware yet(this september i have a course about it in college), but my next computer is definitely going to be a custom made one that i'll make ^.^
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maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 05:56:23
July 21 2010 05:52 GMT
#12
@Disregard: Yeah, after seeing the excess cables that came with this PSU, I'm not sure I could put together a build with a non-modular PSU without pulling my hair out. Some of them aren't too bad, but good god those molex cables take up a lot of space.

@FragKrag: Actually, for the case, I picked up the 902 a little before everything else because I found it on sale for ~$90 and my still not very knowledgeable mind went "Antec, good! Buy now!" Probably not the best decision, but it's still a pretty nice case and $90 wasn't too bad. I agree with you, though, that the Cooler Master products probably make more sense.

Room temperature is roughly 25C/77F. I was pretty surprised when I saw 18 degrees, myself. To be fair, the CPU normally idles somewhere between 23-30 though that's with Firefox/Opera open. All I can figure with the GPU is it must be getting pretty much all the cold air coming in from my bottom front fan. Before I re-did the cables it was idling at 36-37C, most of the time.

@JohnColtrane: Well, there's a lot of choices to make, and always somebody will question your choice, but if you do the research and decide a part fits what you want/need, then that's what really matters, anyway. The important part is to decide what you want the computer to do first, and then search around to find the best deals to make that happen. And you kind of have to accept that some times you're going to buy something and have it go on sale two day after you pay for it. ;/

@mOnion: Truth be told, it's not that hard at all. It was probably a super scary thing in the past, what with connectors that would short out devices if they were put in wrong and the like, but really, as far as assembling it all you really have to do is be able to read and be able to use a screwdriver. Almost everything will only fit in the slot in goes in and will only fit in the direction it's supposed to, and everything else has instructions with pictures and little warning boxes to tell you where it goes. Picking out parts is the tricky thing ... that, and affording them. Technology beez expensive.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 05:58 GMT
#13
the hardest part is indeed choosing the parts. I spent like 6-8 months deciding what I wanted and ended up with a drastically different build than what I started with -_-

that and not regretting the stuff the instant you buy it because you see something better for like $10 less.

Connectors pretty much fit one way and it's like any idiot could put it together given enough time and the ability to read instructions and google.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 21 2010 06:05 GMT
#14
I wish I had as much of a budget and be willing to spend the money on upgrading... My parts are 5-6 years old.

Not to mention most of the parts I order from newegg are in a warehouse few hours drive from my house. :D
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
July 21 2010 06:48 GMT
#15
Grats to your new PC!

I bought a new one too and I'm really happy because this is my first upgrade in .... 6 years?

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.20GHz (C3) AM3 6MB 125W Black Edition BOX
RAM: 2x2048MB Kingston Value DDR3-1333 CL9
Cooler: Scythe SCYS-1000 Yasya
Mobo: Asus M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3 AM3 880G ATX
HD: 1000GB Samsung HD103SJ F3 32MB 7200 U/min SATA
GPU: HIS Radeon 5770 1GB
PSU: Enermax 460W
OS: Win7 Pro x64

I almost killed my CPU while trying to install the new heatsink though. I had to remove the boxed cooler, which I had used for 1 day. But heatsink was kind of glued to the CPU so I had to use some force... suddenly the CPU snaps off and I bend over lots of the small pins on the CPU with my hand balm - almost got a heart attack. I then spent 30 minutes to bend them all back in the right position with tweezers and to my surprise, the CPU still works fine.

So be careful guys :D
@riotsnowbird
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 06:49 GMT
#16
yeah that is a problem that is very well documented with AMD heatsinks :/

not sure how you're supposed to take it off but for gods sake dont twist it.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 08:44:36
July 21 2010 08:40 GMT
#17
AMD heatsinks sure are easy as hell to put on though

at least way easier than older Intel ones. Felt like I was going break the motherboard in half

After your first computer build, you'll think back and wonder why such a simple thing took so long. My first build took six hours to do. I've built two since then and both took about two hours each. And I'm still wondering why it took so long. Because when you think about what it is you're doing... it really shouldn't take more than 20 minutes in theory
blabberrrrr
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
July 21 2010 08:59 GMT
#18
Nice Job! I remember my first build... hardware seemed go fine at first... but then my motherboard decided it didn't like 2.1v RAM -was pulling my hair out for weeks because of BSODs that would occur randomly... then downgraded to slower RAM that ran at 1.8v. Problem solved.

Hope everything continues to go well! I remember how triumphant I felt after my first build, hell it was the most awesome thing I had done being a 13 year old.
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