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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 12 2010 23:06 GMT
#1
Just wondering, since in Phase 1 I stopped playing before they introduced the new "Diamond" league... how is the skill in diamond? Is it basically the new platinum (where the rank in your plat didn't really matter because every newb could get top 5 in the div) or does it actually mean something to be doing well in diamond?

I've started playing again for phase 2 and I got put in diamond pretty quickly and I haven't had much trouble at all yet and I'm wondering if its because people just generally aren't that good or maybe I'm decent? I haven't really gamed any top players, which is why I ask (how do the good players rate vs guys you'll find in diamond league?) ...

Anyways, I'm having quite a bit of fun with SC2 so far, going to release a replay pack soon!

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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 23:11:30
July 12 2010 23:08 GMT
#2
naww ranks dont mean anything, when they added diamond they also removed copsar. so basically nothing has changed
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
July 12 2010 23:09 GMT
#3
They removed copper, not bronze
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green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
July 12 2010 23:09 GMT
#4
On July 13 2010 08:08 Malgrif wrote:
naww ranks dont mean anything, when they added diamond they also removed bronze. so basically nothing has changed


they removed copper but yeah, its still the same....
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
July 12 2010 23:13 GMT
#5
You can no longer place in diamond, 5 wins give you a place in platinum and you have to
play your way up to diamond. This change is probably more significant but I don`t think it changed too much anyway.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 12 2010 23:19 GMT
#6
On July 13 2010 08:13 barth wrote:
You can no longer place in diamond, 5 wins give you a place in platinum and you have to
play your way up to diamond. This change is probably more significant but I don`t think it changed too much anyway.
placement isn't purely based on amounts of wins, also length of games and who you beat. i went 5-0 in placement and got placed in gold
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 23:21:55
July 12 2010 23:21 GMT
#7
it must be bc ur just sick awesome at sc2

man im so jealous of u

edit: can u write a guide 2 teach us how 2 be as awesome as u

User was warned for this post
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 12 2010 23:30 GMT
#8
I haven't looked at all the diamond divisions but the ones I have seen are somewhat competitive.
Argo echo is a beast of a division (Idra, Tester, TT1, Whitera, Strelok, Huk, Morrow, thestc, gerrard, and more).
My division isn't that competitive but I can definitely see it is better then before the reset. Rank around top 3-5 now and easily topped a crappy diamond division in phase 1. If you are really good then 400-500 should be where things get interesting.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 12 2010 23:37 GMT
#9
On July 13 2010 08:19 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 08:13 barth wrote:
You can no longer place in diamond, 5 wins give you a place in platinum and you have to
play your way up to diamond. This change is probably more significant but I don`t think it changed too much anyway.
placement isn't purely based on amounts of wins, also length of games and who you beat. i went 5-0 in placement and got placed in gold


It's only whether you win or lose and who you beat. Nothing else.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 23:41:58
July 12 2010 23:41 GMT
#10
On July 13 2010 08:37 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 08:19 Malgrif wrote:
On July 13 2010 08:13 barth wrote:
You can no longer place in diamond, 5 wins give you a place in platinum and you have to
play your way up to diamond. This change is probably more significant but I don`t think it changed too much anyway.
placement isn't purely based on amounts of wins, also length of games and who you beat. i went 5-0 in placement and got placed in gold


It's only whether you win or lose and who you beat. Nothing else.


then why does he go 5-0 and get placed and gold and I go 5-0 and get placed in plat?

edit: nevermind I see "And who you beat"

so like if it plays me against harder people and I still win then I go in plat but he played easier people.

Seems kinda unfair. ^_^
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 12 2010 23:45 GMT
#11
On July 13 2010 08:41 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 08:37 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On July 13 2010 08:19 Malgrif wrote:
On July 13 2010 08:13 barth wrote:
You can no longer place in diamond, 5 wins give you a place in platinum and you have to
play your way up to diamond. This change is probably more significant but I don`t think it changed too much anyway.
placement isn't purely based on amounts of wins, also length of games and who you beat. i went 5-0 in placement and got placed in gold


It's only whether you win or lose and who you beat. Nothing else.


then why does he go 5-0 and get placed and gold and I go 5-0 and get placed in plat?

edit: nevermind I see "And who you beat"

so like if it plays me against harder people and I still win then I go in plat but he played easier people.

Seems kinda unfair. ^_^

naw, you get to your deserved ranking eventually, i went 10-1 after and got placed into diamond =D
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 12 2010 23:49 GMT
#12
to get into the highest SC2 league you only need to be D on iccup really, and to get to the top of your specific division you need to be like D+
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
July 12 2010 23:54 GMT
#13
On July 13 2010 08:49 Divinek wrote:
to get into the highest SC2 league you only need to be D on iccup really, and to get to the top of your specific division you need to be like D+


Yeah, but thats also based on who shares your division. Take Division Argo Echo for example. Here are some of the players in the top 20

Idra
Strelok
White-ra
Morrow
slush
drewbie
tt1
huk
and many other good players not quite on the same level as those above.

The chances of being in the top 5 of that divison are slim to none lol.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
July 13 2010 00:05 GMT
#14
On July 13 2010 08:41 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 08:37 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On July 13 2010 08:19 Malgrif wrote:
On July 13 2010 08:13 barth wrote:
You can no longer place in diamond, 5 wins give you a place in platinum and you have to
play your way up to diamond. This change is probably more significant but I don`t think it changed too much anyway.
placement isn't purely based on amounts of wins, also length of games and who you beat. i went 5-0 in placement and got placed in gold


It's only whether you win or lose and who you beat. Nothing else.


then why does he go 5-0 and get placed and gold and I go 5-0 and get placed in plat?

edit: nevermind I see "And who you beat"

so like if it plays me against harder people and I still win then I go in plat but he played easier people.

Seems kinda unfair. ^_^

I went 4-1 in 3v3 and it placed me in bronze lol..
~o~ I have returned
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 13 2010 00:23 GMT
#15
They should make cross-level differences, I.E... having a ton of the top foreigners in that Argo w/e division shouldn't be an accident of chance, but it should be because they're all good. It'd be cool if Blizzard actually differentiated stuff and created some kind of global ranking so you could see where you stand.
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
July 13 2010 01:18 GMT
#16
On July 13 2010 08:21 baller wrote:
it must be bc ur just sick awesome at sc2

man im so jealous of u

edit: can u write a guide 2 teach us how 2 be as awesome as u

Are you crazy? You think you can be as awesome as Xeris for free? I suggest you start donating money to Xeris right now. Then he could build a site where you can pay to read his guides. Only then will you be able to achieve awesomeness.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
July 13 2010 01:43 GMT
#17
Global ranking makes more sense than anything else. Whats the point of having so many different diamond divisions anyways?
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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
July 13 2010 02:22 GMT
#18
On July 13 2010 10:43 Tenryu wrote:
Global ranking makes more sense than anything else. Whats the point of having so many different diamond divisions anyways?

Yes, it does make more sense, but different nameless divisions inflate egos of casual players who think they are awesome, helping SC2 be more popular.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 13 2010 02:32 GMT
#19
On July 13 2010 08:54 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 08:49 Divinek wrote:
to get into the highest SC2 league you only need to be D on iccup really, and to get to the top of your specific division you need to be like D+


Yeah, but thats also based on who shares your division. Take Division Argo Echo for example. Here are some of the players in the top 20

Idra
Strelok
White-ra
Morrow
slush
drewbie
tt1
huk
and many other good players not quite on the same level as those above.

The chances of being in the top 5 of that divison are slim to none lol.


You missed Tester(oGssSKS) and GerrardPrime, two great Korean players that might be better than anyone on that list.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 13 2010 02:45 GMT
#20
How do you look at other divisions?

But in my opinion, it's not about rank, it's about points (once you reach diamond atleast)
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 04:06:27
July 13 2010 04:06 GMT
#21
It seems to me like Diamond is more competitive than it used to be. I used to be able to stay in the top 20 of my diamond division quite easily in phase 1 but now I feel terribad because I've dropped to like 86. >< It could just be that I've gotten worse or got unlucky, but imo it feels like the bottom 50% of diamond players got lumped into platinum.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 13 2010 04:10 GMT
#22
On July 13 2010 13:06 3clipse wrote:
It seems to me like Diamond is more competitive than it used to be. I used to be able to stay in the top 20 of my diamond division quite easily in phase 1 but now I feel terribad because I've dropped to like 86. >< It could just be that I've gotten worse or got unlucky, but imo it feels like the bottom 50% of diamond players got lumped into platinum.

it certainly seems alot more difficult
i contribute alot to zergs who enjoy going all in speedlings though
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