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On the other hand - I think one thing that will save us professionals who aren't fucking (yes, fucking) super gosu at coding...Will be how quickly programming concepts evolve and in some instances forgotten.
+ Show Spoiler +I am a bit jaded by some of the elitist mentality that coders have. Very, very few 'humble' coders out there. With a decently understanding of why; when you figure out a program through writing code it is a really rewarding experience and boosts the; "I r SmART" confidence.
Haha, like the MVC and PDO we discuss above. Both concepts I've studied and wrapped my head around. But BOTH, I certainly couldn't recall on a moment's notice.
Now that is surely attributed to the fact that I don't code in a MVC typically - the PHP I write uses a...I guess I'd call it...a Property Structure, like GETS and SETS. I also don't code all the time, so concepts I browse over are buried in the sands of life as months go by.
Coding mentalities and languages are certainly something you've got to flex and practice often to keep in-shape.
Someone above teases script kiddies - I guess I am slightly offended by that, I'm not sure if what I code could be considered just scripting...But what is wrong with that, even if so? As Tofu exclaims the high up elite coders are doing their best to eliminate script kiddies anyway.
And (this is extreme) i feel like, lol, you describe script kiddies as being like illegal immigrants or something, leeching jobs!
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Plenty are. My job is one that was previously held by a script kiddie, and I was called in and interviewed over 3 weeks before I was hired (they reallllllly didn't want to get another kiddie). Most script kiddies think they are good programmers because the follow one of the primary tenants of programming: never rewrite code if you don't have to. The problem is...script kiddies don't understand the code they are using, whereas a real programmer will know exactly what's going on in there.
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Good summary, surely it is far more complex than that, but great way to sum it up.
When you say that only a real programmer will know exactly what's going on in there, it begs the following question:
Why did someone, a proverbial 'real programmer', even ever structure a set of language or syntax rules that could be utilized by a 'script kiddie'.
There must be a marketplace and a demand for 'script kiddies', in which case, we/you should be thankful that there is a definable difference between the two...separating the men from mice so-to-speak.
As you can see, I'd be more fit for a Consulting / Managerial role of programming, rather than the strict science of logic's and syntax memorization required to be a 'real programmer' - lol.
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Every language is like that. Someone writes some useful piece of software or a helpful script (eg some Perl or BaSH script) and releases, and then it's out there. Script kiddies tend to have a very basic understanding of the tools they use, say...enough to change some parameters in a search or to use a hex editor to change the title of a program. A programmer knows enough about a tool to be able to completely rewrite it if need be.
As for a "demand for script kiddies", it is unfortunately very hard for non-technical people to tell the difference between a script kiddie and a programmer, which stacks the odds against us (since there are far more script kiddies than educated, experienced programmers).
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