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SLTorak.Hobo
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada67 Posts
July 04 2010 17:18 GMT
#781
Are you ignoring the fact that he was warned and decided to continue the charade instead of saying "I didn't think it'd go this far and don't want to get banned so this is bullshit, I was just doing it for kicks and to entertain the forum"? The fact is at no time he showed remorse, he was aware of the accusations and never attempted to reconcile and thus was banned. There is a ton of ways he could still get in touch with the admins and plead his case or address the forum in an apology but after he was busted instead he chose to remain silent. It shouldn't have to be stated in the rules that leading on a bunch of people with a continued bullshit story just to tool them will get you banned, that is common sense. If someone can't understand that concept maybe they shouldn't be posting in a fairly tight community.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 04 2010 17:19 GMT
#782
On July 05 2010 02:11 Malgrif wrote:if he was given a chance at a public apology, i'd atleast consider it seriously. again it was an honest mistake

I would have no problem questioning the intelligence of someone who calls this an "honest mistake".

If anything, it's the most dishonest "mistake" I've ever seen.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 17:44:20
July 04 2010 17:43 GMT
#783
On July 05 2010 02:19 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:11 Malgrif wrote:if he was given a chance at a public apology, i'd atleast consider it seriously. again it was an honest mistake

I would have no problem questioning the intelligence of someone who calls this an "honest mistake".

If anything, it's the most dishonest "mistake" I've ever seen.
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

On July 05 2010 02:16 zenMaster wrote:
Give it up Malgrif, he is permabanned and there is nothing you can do about it, he had a chance to come clean but he chose to continue the lie. Freedom of speech on TL is a privilege not a right.

no he didn't, and i already know this, i doubt what i'm saying has any weight what so ever when it comes to chill.

On July 05 2010 02:18 SLTorak.Hobo wrote:
Are you ignoring the fact that he was warned and decided to continue the charade instead of saying "I didn't think it'd go this far and don't want to get banned so this is bullshit, I was just doing it for kicks and to entertain the forum"? The fact is at no time he showed remorse, he was aware of the accusations and never attempted to reconcile and thus was banned. There is a ton of ways he could still get in touch with the admins and plead his case or address the forum in an apology but after he was busted instead he chose to remain silent. It shouldn't have to be stated in the rules that leading on a bunch of people with a continued bullshit story just to tool them will get you banned, that is common sense. If someone can't understand that concept maybe they shouldn't be posting in a fairly tight community.

nope, you're ignoring the fact that there was no warning to come clean. which means i think you agree with me.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
OpRaider
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States307 Posts
July 04 2010 17:47 GMT
#784
On July 05 2010 02:43 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:19 Djzapz wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:11 Malgrif wrote:if he was given a chance at a public apology, i'd atleast consider it seriously. again it was an honest mistake

I would have no problem questioning the intelligence of someone who calls this an "honest mistake".

If anything, it's the most dishonest "mistake" I've ever seen.
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:16 zenMaster wrote:
Give it up Malgrif, he is permabanned and there is nothing you can do about it, he had a chance to come clean but he chose to continue the lie. Freedom of speech on TL is a privilege not a right.

no he didn't, and i already know this, i doubt what i'm saying has any weight what so ever when it comes to chill.

Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:18 SLTorak.Hobo wrote:
Are you ignoring the fact that he was warned and decided to continue the charade instead of saying "I didn't think it'd go this far and don't want to get banned so this is bullshit, I was just doing it for kicks and to entertain the forum"? The fact is at no time he showed remorse, he was aware of the accusations and never attempted to reconcile and thus was banned. There is a ton of ways he could still get in touch with the admins and plead his case or address the forum in an apology but after he was busted instead he chose to remain silent. It shouldn't have to be stated in the rules that leading on a bunch of people with a continued bullshit story just to tool them will get you banned, that is common sense. If someone can't understand that concept maybe they shouldn't be posting in a fairly tight community.

nope, you're ignoring the fact that there was no warning to come clean. which means i think you agree with me.

Malgrif, he was warned even before he made this blog. He was warned on after his second blog about this girl. He then posted this blog and wrote "please dont ban me for this". It's obvious he understood the consequences.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 04 2010 17:48 GMT
#785

Xero's ban was based on circumstantial event that are NOT explicitly stated in the rules, and his punishment was decided before there was any chance of him discussing the matter at hand. Many of you misinterpret me defending that he doesn't deserve any punishment at all, but I am arguing that his punishment is too harsh.


No, he had a chance. He wasn't banned for well over a day or something after the fact that it was probablyt a bullshit story came to light. As everyone pretty much agreed this guy posted 100+ times a week, and was almost certainly following the reception to his story. He had a chance to reply. He didn't

There also seems to be the problem that people seem to misinterpret Chill's PM, he said if he found out he was a liar he would be baned. He didn't say admit that you're lying or you will be baned. That's why admitting to his story would have no bearing on the course of action taken(which means him continuing on with his story doesn't make him any more of a douche bag then he was before, he was baned anyways so why not, he doesn't lose anything or might be able to salvage his situation), which brings me back to my first point that there was no explicit rule stated that this was a something that could get him in trouble. He had no way of knowing that he'd get perma ban when he started, and admitting to it after he got the pm would of gotten him baned anyways. There was no warning to admit to, there was no patience with him.


It seemed implicit, at least to me, that he would not be banned, or at least permabanned and dealt with as severly if he came clean right then, rather than trying to continue get people emotionally involved in his story with ever more elaborate lies. As a side note, thats what makes this more than an honest mistake. He knew people were getting involved, plenty emotionally, and yet continued to weave a story that was only going to hurt people in the end. It's not that unlike leading on someone in a relationship, you get them emotionally attached to you even though you have no actual interest in them; to me thats what you would call being a douchebag, not an honest mistake.
Morover, this guy apparently had a history of warnings and bans. It was likely that one more slip up from him, even a minor one, was going to be his last anyway, and this was certainly more than a minor slip up. So even if you really feel a permaban for this was too harsh, consider that he isn't being permabanned for just this but in conunctiuon with the fact that he had a terrible posting history riddled with past bans and warnings.



If you argue that he should have known that deceiving a mass amount of people would undoubtedly piss people off and that the forums are dictated by common sense, then he should have been warned first not be out right baned. Breaking unspoken rules is always a hard matter to deal with, but mods should assume that people don't know them, and give them warning before judgement, not judgement without warning.


First of all let me reiterate what I said above. His ban severity was probably influenced by his previous history of being a poor poster. Also, keep in mind that TL is the mod's house. If this guy comes in and shits on the carpet, the mods have every right to kick him out. You seem to be arguing that he didn't shit on the carpet but rather tracked a small pebble inside or something. Be that as it may, its ultimately the mods house, and perception is reality; they are absolutely within their right to kick this guy out.

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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 04 2010 17:49 GMT
#786
On July 05 2010 02:47 OpRaider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:43 Malgrif wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:19 Djzapz wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:11 Malgrif wrote:if he was given a chance at a public apology, i'd atleast consider it seriously. again it was an honest mistake

I would have no problem questioning the intelligence of someone who calls this an "honest mistake".

If anything, it's the most dishonest "mistake" I've ever seen.
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

On July 05 2010 02:16 zenMaster wrote:
Give it up Malgrif, he is permabanned and there is nothing you can do about it, he had a chance to come clean but he chose to continue the lie. Freedom of speech on TL is a privilege not a right.

no he didn't, and i already know this, i doubt what i'm saying has any weight what so ever when it comes to chill.

On July 05 2010 02:18 SLTorak.Hobo wrote:
Are you ignoring the fact that he was warned and decided to continue the charade instead of saying "I didn't think it'd go this far and don't want to get banned so this is bullshit, I was just doing it for kicks and to entertain the forum"? The fact is at no time he showed remorse, he was aware of the accusations and never attempted to reconcile and thus was banned. There is a ton of ways he could still get in touch with the admins and plead his case or address the forum in an apology but after he was busted instead he chose to remain silent. It shouldn't have to be stated in the rules that leading on a bunch of people with a continued bullshit story just to tool them will get you banned, that is common sense. If someone can't understand that concept maybe they shouldn't be posting in a fairly tight community.

nope, you're ignoring the fact that there was no warning to come clean. which means i think you agree with me.

Malgrif, he was warned even before he made this blog. He was warned on after his second blog about this girl. He then posted this blog and wrote "please dont ban me for this". It's obvious he understood the consequences.
well i could be wrong on this, but wasn't it that chill warned him about not making so many consecutive blogs over and over again, and that him making another one ins't that matter at hand?
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 04 2010 17:51 GMT
#787
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

You truly are ridiculous.

If you drive like an idiot and you get caught, you get arrested whether or not you're aware that you're not supposed to drive through a red light. It's even worse if you do it again after you're told not to - whether or not you're aware of the punishment for doing it, you shouldn't do it. He was told not to.

Let me put that in other words. He was explicitly and directly told by a mod NOT to do ONE SPECIFIC thing, and he did it anyway. It was one golden rule and he broke it.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 04 2010 17:55 GMT
#788
On July 05 2010 02:51 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

You truly are ridiculous.

If you drive like an idiot and you get caught, you get arrested whether or not you're aware that you're not supposed to drive through a red light. It's even worse if you do it again after you're told not to - whether or not you're aware of the punishment for doing it, you shouldn't do it. He was told not to.

Let me put that in other words. He was explicitly and directly told by a mod NOT to do ONE SPECIFIC thing, and he did it anyway. It was one golden rule and he broke it.
um, actually driving like an idiot would mean you're breaking laws that are stated. and i'll concede if you can bring me evidence where the mod told him not to lie or he'll get baned.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 17:57:26
July 04 2010 17:57 GMT
#789
On July 05 2010 02:55 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:51 Djzapz wrote:
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

You truly are ridiculous.

If you drive like an idiot and you get caught, you get arrested whether or not you're aware that you're not supposed to drive through a red light. It's even worse if you do it again after you're told not to - whether or not you're aware of the punishment for doing it, you shouldn't do it. He was told not to.

Let me put that in other words. He was explicitly and directly told by a mod NOT to do ONE SPECIFIC thing, and he did it anyway. It was one golden rule and he broke it.
and i'll concede if you can bring me evidence where the mod told him not to lie or he'll get baned.


Are you joking?

Also, just to be clear, if your story turns out to be false later you will be banned, because this kind of deception is unacceptable in a close community. I hope it is real and I wish you the best. If it's not, please just admit it now and don't drag it out for the people following your story


good day sir?
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 04 2010 18:00 GMT
#790
On July 05 2010 02:48 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +

Xero's ban was based on circumstantial event that are NOT explicitly stated in the rules, and his punishment was decided before there was any chance of him discussing the matter at hand. Many of you misinterpret me defending that he doesn't deserve any punishment at all, but I am arguing that his punishment is too harsh.


No, he had a chance. He wasn't banned for well over a day or something after the fact that it was probablyt a bullshit story came to light. As everyone pretty much agreed this guy posted 100+ times a week, and was almost certainly following the reception to his story. He had a chance to reply. He didn't

Show nested quote +
There also seems to be the problem that people seem to misinterpret Chill's PM, he said if he found out he was a liar he would be baned. He didn't say admit that you're lying or you will be baned. That's why admitting to his story would have no bearing on the course of action taken(which means him continuing on with his story doesn't make him any more of a douche bag then he was before, he was baned anyways so why not, he doesn't lose anything or might be able to salvage his situation), which brings me back to my first point that there was no explicit rule stated that this was a something that could get him in trouble. He had no way of knowing that he'd get perma ban when he started, and admitting to it after he got the pm would of gotten him baned anyways. There was no warning to admit to, there was no patience with him.


It seemed implicit, at least to me, that he would not be banned, or at least permabanned and dealt with as severly if he came clean right then, rather than trying to continue get people emotionally involved in his story with ever more elaborate lies. As a side note, thats what makes this more than an honest mistake. He knew people were getting involved, plenty emotionally, and yet continued to weave a story that was only going to hurt people in the end. It's not that unlike leading on someone in a relationship, you get them emotionally attached to you even though you have no actual interest in them; to me thats what you would call being a douchebag, not an honest mistake.
Morover, this guy apparently had a history of warnings and bans. It was likely that one more slip up from him, even a minor one, was going to be his last anyway, and this was certainly more than a minor slip up. So even if you really feel a permaban for this was too harsh, consider that he isn't being permabanned for just this but in conunctiuon with the fact that he had a terrible posting history riddled with past bans and warnings.



Show nested quote +
If you argue that he should have known that deceiving a mass amount of people would undoubtedly piss people off and that the forums are dictated by common sense, then he should have been warned first not be out right baned. Breaking unspoken rules is always a hard matter to deal with, but mods should assume that people don't know them, and give them warning before judgement, not judgement without warning.


First of all let me reiterate what I said above. His ban severity was probably influenced by his previous history of being a poor poster. Also, keep in mind that TL is the mod's house. If this guy comes in and shits on the carpet, the mods have every right to kick him out. You seem to be arguing that he didn't shit on the carpet but rather tracked a small pebble inside or something. Be that as it may, its ultimately the mods house, and perception is reality; they are absolutely within their right to kick this guy out.

The thing is, we really don't know exactly how it would of played out if he came clean, but judging by the PM, it would of meant that he would have gotten baned anyways. I understand why the mods baned him, and I'm not saying it's not in their right to kick him out, i'm giving my opinion on why i think it was an unfair judgement.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 04 2010 18:00 GMT
#791
On July 05 2010 02:57 Elegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:55 Malgrif wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:51 Djzapz wrote:
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

You truly are ridiculous.

If you drive like an idiot and you get caught, you get arrested whether or not you're aware that you're not supposed to drive through a red light. It's even worse if you do it again after you're told not to - whether or not you're aware of the punishment for doing it, you shouldn't do it. He was told not to.

Let me put that in other words. He was explicitly and directly told by a mod NOT to do ONE SPECIFIC thing, and he did it anyway. It was one golden rule and he broke it.
and i'll concede if you can bring me evidence where the mod told him not to lie or he'll get baned.


Are you joking?

Show nested quote +
Also, just to be clear, if your story turns out to be false later you will be banned, because this kind of deception is unacceptable in a close community. I hope it is real and I wish you the best. If it's not, please just admit it now and don't drag it out for the people following your story


good day sir?
please re-read my arguments.
SIR
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 04 2010 18:01 GMT
#792
On July 05 2010 03:00 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 02:57 Elegy wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:55 Malgrif wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:51 Djzapz wrote:
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

You truly are ridiculous.

If you drive like an idiot and you get caught, you get arrested whether or not you're aware that you're not supposed to drive through a red light. It's even worse if you do it again after you're told not to - whether or not you're aware of the punishment for doing it, you shouldn't do it. He was told not to.

Let me put that in other words. He was explicitly and directly told by a mod NOT to do ONE SPECIFIC thing, and he did it anyway. It was one golden rule and he broke it.
and i'll concede if you can bring me evidence where the mod told him not to lie or he'll get baned.


Are you joking?

Also, just to be clear, if your story turns out to be false later you will be banned, because this kind of deception is unacceptable in a close community. I hope it is real and I wish you the best. If it's not, please just admit it now and don't drag it out for the people following your story


good day sir?
please re-read my arguments.
SIR

I don't usually do this but I must say you've been spelling "banned" wrong all along. Just thought I would let you know.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 04 2010 18:03 GMT
#793
On July 05 2010 03:01 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 03:00 Malgrif wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:57 Elegy wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:55 Malgrif wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:51 Djzapz wrote:
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

You truly are ridiculous.

If you drive like an idiot and you get caught, you get arrested whether or not you're aware that you're not supposed to drive through a red light. It's even worse if you do it again after you're told not to - whether or not you're aware of the punishment for doing it, you shouldn't do it. He was told not to.

Let me put that in other words. He was explicitly and directly told by a mod NOT to do ONE SPECIFIC thing, and he did it anyway. It was one golden rule and he broke it.
and i'll concede if you can bring me evidence where the mod told him not to lie or he'll get baned.


Are you joking?

Also, just to be clear, if your story turns out to be false later you will be banned, because this kind of deception is unacceptable in a close community. I hope it is real and I wish you the best. If it's not, please just admit it now and don't drag it out for the people following your story


good day sir?
please re-read my arguments.
SIR

I don't usually do this but I must say you've been spelling "banned" wrong all along. Just thought I would let you know.
yes yes and i've been typing with a thousand grammar errors too. did it really distract you that much from my point? >_>
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 18:06:50
July 04 2010 18:04 GMT
#794
ur arguments blow monkey balls, are contradictory, and pointless to the extreme.

it was clear that if he was lying he would be banned, he continued to lie, he was banned. he blatantly disregarded a moderator's directive, he lied to the entire community, and he kept promoting his BS after being warned not to do so.

go away and let this thread die

btw i don't use monkey balls lightly.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
July 04 2010 18:07 GMT
#795
nice read, i'm sad it was fake all along (((((

anyway, well deserved ban imho, he deliverately acted like a retard to the community, that should be more than enough being written in commandments or rules or not

ps: everytime baller posts i laugh, awesome guy.
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 04 2010 18:07 GMT
#796
On July 05 2010 03:03 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 03:01 Djzapz wrote:
On July 05 2010 03:00 Malgrif wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:57 Elegy wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:55 Malgrif wrote:
On July 05 2010 02:51 Djzapz wrote:
he wanted attention, he made up an elaborate tale, he got caught in his lie, he got baned. i don't know what you constitute as an honest mistake, but my definition of it is that if someone doesn't know what his actions would end up leading to.

You truly are ridiculous.

If you drive like an idiot and you get caught, you get arrested whether or not you're aware that you're not supposed to drive through a red light. It's even worse if you do it again after you're told not to - whether or not you're aware of the punishment for doing it, you shouldn't do it. He was told not to.

Let me put that in other words. He was explicitly and directly told by a mod NOT to do ONE SPECIFIC thing, and he did it anyway. It was one golden rule and he broke it.
and i'll concede if you can bring me evidence where the mod told him not to lie or he'll get baned.


Are you joking?

Also, just to be clear, if your story turns out to be false later you will be banned, because this kind of deception is unacceptable in a close community. I hope it is real and I wish you the best. If it's not, please just admit it now and don't drag it out for the people following your story


good day sir?
please re-read my arguments.
SIR

I don't usually do this but I must say you've been spelling "banned" wrong all along. Just thought I would let you know.
yes yes and i've been typing with a thousand grammar errors too. did it really distract you that much from my point? >_>

Your point is pretty weak. I understand where you come from but keep in mind that there's something in your mind that makes you more accepting of liars and most people aren't so easy on them.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 04 2010 18:08 GMT
#797
Xero must love all the attention this ban is getting.. do you happen to be one of Xero's RL friends or something Malgrif?
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 04 2010 18:09 GMT
#798
On July 05 2010 03:00 Malgrif wrote:
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On July 05 2010 02:48 L_Master wrote:

Xero's ban was based on circumstantial event that are NOT explicitly stated in the rules, and his punishment was decided before there was any chance of him discussing the matter at hand. Many of you misinterpret me defending that he doesn't deserve any punishment at all, but I am arguing that his punishment is too harsh.


No, he had a chance. He wasn't banned for well over a day or something after the fact that it was probablyt a bullshit story came to light. As everyone pretty much agreed this guy posted 100+ times a week, and was almost certainly following the reception to his story. He had a chance to reply. He didn't

There also seems to be the problem that people seem to misinterpret Chill's PM, he said if he found out he was a liar he would be baned. He didn't say admit that you're lying or you will be baned. That's why admitting to his story would have no bearing on the course of action taken(which means him continuing on with his story doesn't make him any more of a douche bag then he was before, he was baned anyways so why not, he doesn't lose anything or might be able to salvage his situation), which brings me back to my first point that there was no explicit rule stated that this was a something that could get him in trouble. He had no way of knowing that he'd get perma ban when he started, and admitting to it after he got the pm would of gotten him baned anyways. There was no warning to admit to, there was no patience with him.


It seemed implicit, at least to me, that he would not be banned, or at least permabanned and dealt with as severly if he came clean right then, rather than trying to continue get people emotionally involved in his story with ever more elaborate lies. As a side note, thats what makes this more than an honest mistake. He knew people were getting involved, plenty emotionally, and yet continued to weave a story that was only going to hurt people in the end. It's not that unlike leading on someone in a relationship, you get them emotionally attached to you even though you have no actual interest in them; to me thats what you would call being a douchebag, not an honest mistake.
Morover, this guy apparently had a history of warnings and bans. It was likely that one more slip up from him, even a minor one, was going to be his last anyway, and this was certainly more than a minor slip up. So even if you really feel a permaban for this was too harsh, consider that he isn't being permabanned for just this but in conunctiuon with the fact that he had a terrible posting history riddled with past bans and warnings.



If you argue that he should have known that deceiving a mass amount of people would undoubtedly piss people off and that the forums are dictated by common sense, then he should have been warned first not be out right baned. Breaking unspoken rules is always a hard matter to deal with, but mods should assume that people don't know them, and give them warning before judgement, not judgement without warning.


First of all let me reiterate what I said above. His ban severity was probably influenced by his previous history of being a poor poster. Also, keep in mind that TL is the mod's house. If this guy comes in and shits on the carpet, the mods have every right to kick him out. You seem to be arguing that he didn't shit on the carpet but rather tracked a small pebble inside or something. Be that as it may, its ultimately the mods house, and perception is reality; they are absolutely within their right to kick this guy out.

The thing is, we really don't know exactly how it would of played out if he came clean, but judging by the PM, it would of meant that he would have gotten baned anyways. I understand why the mods baned him, and I'm not saying it's not in their right to kick him out, i'm giving my opinion on why i think it was an unfair judgement.


Okay, you obviously feel it was unfair that he got banned for this, I disagree, but thats neither here nor there. Have you considered the fact that the reason he got banned wasn't for this alone, but also because of his history of bad posts, warnings, and previous bans. You've already stated that some sort of punishment was in order, so this was just the final straw for Zero.
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 04 2010 18:12 GMT
#799
On July 05 2010 03:08 Megalisk wrote:
Xero must love all the attention this ban is getting.. do you happen to be one of Xero's RL friends or something Malgrif?

That's what I was wondering myself...... or XERO HIMSELF! o.O
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Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 04 2010 18:18 GMT
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