• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:09
CET 06:09
KST 14:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.174Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30 [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine R I P Patrick Stewart European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8947 users

Diskinected and unmoved.

Blogs > Umpteen
Post a Reply
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
July 02 2010 01:09 GMT
#1
As I'm sure you know, Sony and Microsoft are presently falling over themselves to out-Nintendo Nintendo with their 'Move' and 'Kinect' systems respectively. I think this is a fundamentally poor idea, and since this is my blog and nobody else is going to update it for me, I'm going to write about why.

It's not because these new products are particularly bad, although Microsoft seems to have been... enthusiastic with the truth as far as the reality of Project Natal.

Nor is it because of the considerable effective price gap between a Wii and rival motion-control-enabled consoles. Presumably the idea is that instead of buying a 360 and a Wii, you'll buy a 360 with Kinect, and funnel commission exclusively into Microsoft's pockets. Whatever; I'm sure it can be made to sound sensible in those terms.

No, my problem with these systems is more basic: computer games were invented to entertain kids who didn't especially like jumping around getting sweaty in the first place. My first computer games were some of the first computer games, and experiencing them was like... well, it wasn't 'like' anything - which is precisely the point. The closest I can come are those dreams where you suddenly realise that if you concentrate in just the right way, you can fly: a surging, overwhelming sense of "Oh..... This is going to be cool."

Since then I have, to paraphrase my favourite monologue of all time, seen things some people wouldn't believe. I've docked in high orbit above the planet Lave, and avoided eating cake with psychopathic disc operating systems.

If I want to go bowling, I'll, you know, go bowling.

I've nothing against the Wii, you understand. But it's not a games console. Well, maybe that's a bit strong - certainly there are some genuine 'computer games' for it, mainly because Nintendo can't seem to help making them - but I don't really think of it as existing along the same axis as the BBC Micro, Amiga, PC, Playstation, XBox or DS. The Wii is primarily a device for pretending to do things that would be more fun if done for real.

The upshot is that Microsoft and Sony are jumping on a bandwagon that's being driven by people who don't like computer games. You can tell they don't like them because of how much the Wii has 'grown the market': if they liked computer games they would have already bought some. And when they're bored with virtual this and sim that, they'll just shove their pseudo-games-console in a cupboard and go do some gardening instead. They won't even care.

I can't help feeling that the millions Sony and Microsoft have thrown at development and the millions yet to be splurged on promotion would have been better spent teaching more people how much fun it can be to grab a mouse or a joystick or a gamepad and just sit the fuck down.

***
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
July 02 2010 01:18 GMT
#2
hmm. i disagree with you saying that video games are just for people who don't like getting up and moving. personally, i like to play games so I can experience things I can't experience in real life, whether they be shooting tie fighters or nazis, chopping deku babas with my sword, racing, or swarming people as the zerg. and the more they can make that closer to reality, the happier i'll be. and i'm excited for the future of rts games, because with these new touch screen pcs, i have a feeling we'll be getting some real hand controls. and one day we'll all live in the matrix...unless we already do.
How's the weather down there?
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
July 02 2010 01:24 GMT
#3
On July 02 2010 10:18 eLiE wrote:
and one day we'll all live in the matrix...unless we already do.


One day we will live in the matrix inside of the matrix : O
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 02 2010 01:32 GMT
#4
In my opinion I think that sitting down is the way to go...People just want to make money by "copying" the wii (which again is for little kids.. kids want to move)

Most games now are becoming more and more casual friendly.. It breaks my heart
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 51m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE154
SortOf 98
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1729
Hyuk 1263
ProTech164
Dewaltoss 141
Icarus 8
Force[name] 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm180
League of Legends
Doublelift4443
JimRising 656
Other Games
summit1g10004
Coldzera 676
WinterStarcraft482
C9.Mang0201
Sick51
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota244
League of Legends
• Stunt385
Other Games
• Shiphtur498
Upcoming Events
GSL
6h 51m
Epic.LAN
7h 51m
Big Brain Bouts
11h 51m
OSC
16h 51m
Replay Cast
17h 51m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 6h
Epic.LAN
1d 7h
IPSL
1d 10h
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
1d 12h
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Yamato Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
3 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.