• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:41
CEST 19:41
KST 02:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !10Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results1
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals? BW General Discussion Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) (Spoiler) Interview ASL Ro4 Day 2 Winner
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Semifinals A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1338 users

Diskinected and unmoved.

Blogs > Umpteen
Post a Reply
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
July 02 2010 01:09 GMT
#1
As I'm sure you know, Sony and Microsoft are presently falling over themselves to out-Nintendo Nintendo with their 'Move' and 'Kinect' systems respectively. I think this is a fundamentally poor idea, and since this is my blog and nobody else is going to update it for me, I'm going to write about why.

It's not because these new products are particularly bad, although Microsoft seems to have been... enthusiastic with the truth as far as the reality of Project Natal.

Nor is it because of the considerable effective price gap between a Wii and rival motion-control-enabled consoles. Presumably the idea is that instead of buying a 360 and a Wii, you'll buy a 360 with Kinect, and funnel commission exclusively into Microsoft's pockets. Whatever; I'm sure it can be made to sound sensible in those terms.

No, my problem with these systems is more basic: computer games were invented to entertain kids who didn't especially like jumping around getting sweaty in the first place. My first computer games were some of the first computer games, and experiencing them was like... well, it wasn't 'like' anything - which is precisely the point. The closest I can come are those dreams where you suddenly realise that if you concentrate in just the right way, you can fly: a surging, overwhelming sense of "Oh..... This is going to be cool."

Since then I have, to paraphrase my favourite monologue of all time, seen things some people wouldn't believe. I've docked in high orbit above the planet Lave, and avoided eating cake with psychopathic disc operating systems.

If I want to go bowling, I'll, you know, go bowling.

I've nothing against the Wii, you understand. But it's not a games console. Well, maybe that's a bit strong - certainly there are some genuine 'computer games' for it, mainly because Nintendo can't seem to help making them - but I don't really think of it as existing along the same axis as the BBC Micro, Amiga, PC, Playstation, XBox or DS. The Wii is primarily a device for pretending to do things that would be more fun if done for real.

The upshot is that Microsoft and Sony are jumping on a bandwagon that's being driven by people who don't like computer games. You can tell they don't like them because of how much the Wii has 'grown the market': if they liked computer games they would have already bought some. And when they're bored with virtual this and sim that, they'll just shove their pseudo-games-console in a cupboard and go do some gardening instead. They won't even care.

I can't help feeling that the millions Sony and Microsoft have thrown at development and the millions yet to be splurged on promotion would have been better spent teaching more people how much fun it can be to grab a mouse or a joystick or a gamepad and just sit the fuck down.

***
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
July 02 2010 01:18 GMT
#2
hmm. i disagree with you saying that video games are just for people who don't like getting up and moving. personally, i like to play games so I can experience things I can't experience in real life, whether they be shooting tie fighters or nazis, chopping deku babas with my sword, racing, or swarming people as the zerg. and the more they can make that closer to reality, the happier i'll be. and i'm excited for the future of rts games, because with these new touch screen pcs, i have a feeling we'll be getting some real hand controls. and one day we'll all live in the matrix...unless we already do.
How's the weather down there?
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
July 02 2010 01:24 GMT
#3
On July 02 2010 10:18 eLiE wrote:
and one day we'll all live in the matrix...unless we already do.


One day we will live in the matrix inside of the matrix : O
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 02 2010 01:32 GMT
#4
In my opinion I think that sitting down is the way to go...People just want to make money by "copying" the wii (which again is for little kids.. kids want to move)

Most games now are becoming more and more casual friendly.. It breaks my heart
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 138
UpATreeSC 95
BRAT_OK 79
JuggernautJason61
ProTech13
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32421
Bisu 1289
Horang2 725
firebathero 397
Dewaltoss 106
ggaemo 57
Pusan 36
Rock 28
soO 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Dota 2
Gorgc7155
qojqva1742
monkeys_forever282
Counter-Strike
fl0m7522
olofmeister4129
byalli502
adren_tv33
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK14
Liquid`Hasu1
Other Games
FrodaN1762
Grubby1520
Liquid`RaSZi1255
Beastyqt1071
ceh9604
B2W.Neo412
Hui .209
KnowMe201
ArmadaUGS186
C9.Mang0136
QueenE109
elazer105
Mew2King96
Livibee53
Trikslyr45
ToD4
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 43
• Dystopia_ 1
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 32
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4796
Other Games
• imaqtpie615
• Shiphtur225
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 20m
The PondCast
16h 20m
OSC
16h 20m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
OSC
1d 19h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
BSL
3 days
GSL
3 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
[ Show More ]
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-12
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.